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2011 Toyota Avalon



  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited January 2013
    I bought a used Avalon 2000 model because cars lose so much in value. I know about cars and this 2000 car "a one owner car" with 100 thousand miles on it. As little as I drive, I figured this car would last me perhaps the rest of my life. Avalon's have a good reputation for long lasting.

    All the years of dealing with cars I never thought ANYONE would get something over on me. I checked the entire car, I knew it has some slight damage at one time. It was weeks before I drove the car at night. When I finally did it was obvious she had an electrical short. The lights look like Christmas lights going down the street. Don't get me wrong anything is fixable on any car but I thought, "hey, perhaps it's time to pay retail for a car", so I bit the bullet, traded the 2000 in and bought my 2011. I did my best horse trading and got MUCH MORE than I paid when I trade the 2000 in. I'm not a typical buyer so I won't say "I got over on the dealer", I did not. I did get a good deal though.

    Other than losing value, I'm glad I bought the car. I would never feel right selling that used 2000 to anyone. The dealer will just wholesell it out.

    I've drove so many cars that the back head rest gives me no problem at all. I never used a nagavation system in life so I didn't order one. My kids bought me one two years ago and still never used it.

    Tires, hmmmm, I don't know what kind of tires I'll need or what to buy. I am not a fan of Bridgestone tires either. I like Michelin's but I'm told I will pay for them if I want that brand. I never owned another Avalon so I can't say anything about '04 or 98's. I only owned the 2000 model for about a month. I can tell you that the 2000 was easier to drive. The steering was different. When I owned my business, we might have bought some Avalon's but we only owned the cars for days then we sold them. Sometimes I never even drove the cars/trucks I bought. I can't say for certain I bought any Avalon's back in those days

    I'm very suprised to see you have less miles than I do on your Avalon, wow! I have 22 thousand miles and drove it mostly back and forth to Birmingham AL and home. My wife was going through breast cancer treatments and we had to drive down there about once a month.

    This is one reason I broke down and bought a new one. The 2011 Avalon makes the trip so much easier. I'm glad I did. No inspections in the part of the state but I can see ok out the back. Again, it's because I drove so many different kind of cars and I guess I got use to not seeing everything. Thanks for sharing,
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Also had suspension noises when guests were in the back seat, plus road noise

    Hondas have always been noiser than other brands, lotsa road noise. Odysseys are hard to converse in if you're in the back seat.....
  • liaisonliaison Posts: 47
    I am looking at a used 2012 Avalon and noticed that Carfax showed wiper blade/insert was replaced at 2500 miles. Should I be worried about the wiper issues with this Avalon. It has 2 years remaining on warranty.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Most all owners of the 2011 Avalon's in here has wiper problems of some kind. I assume the 2012 also had the same problem since it's basically the same car.

    MY OPINION: I would not worry because it's been in the shop for that. Smart to check car fax, make sure it's a one owner or a lease. Lease cars are good to buy, perhaps better than a one owner. Make sure you have a warranty on the car, if you don't then you MIGHT want to check into that. WHY? I hear a rear view mirror cost 1200 dollars. This is just an example. Hope this helps,
    Anymore questions feel free to ask.
  • I would not be concerned with the wipers. That's an easy fix if they are noisy. I went through that with my 2008. My 2012 has no wiper problem. Love the car and you will too.....hopefully.
  • Just wondering why you feel leased cars are better to purchase than "one owner" ones? I would have thought the opposite.
  • neil1neil1 Posts: 17
    No worries. I would think that wiper blade inserts on any car would be more age sensitive than mileage sensitive. If your car is parked outside in the summer heat here in Florida you're likely to change inserts a couple of times a year.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited January 2013
    Just wondering why you feel leased cars are better to purchase than "one owner" ones? I would have thought the opposite.

    Answer: I thought I might get this question without fully explaining myself.

    First of all, there are different kind of leasing. I SHOULD have said corporate leasing. On Corporate leasing, they lease a fleet of lets say Avalon's. THEY have to be maintain regularly, this is part of the agreement in leasing. SO normally without exception, these cars have been serviced regularly. One owners cars are NOT always serviced regularly. Fleet leasing care are USUALLY brought to auction before the warranty is up. Then auctioned off. Usually right under the wire of the warranty running out.

    Please don't get me wrong, I'm not a "know it all". This was my business.

    At big auctions, you would easy spot the difference between a repo car/cars and a fleet lease car. You'll see a fleet of lets say, Avalon's, or other type cars would be 100's (perhaps, sometimes only 30 or 40) of them together. Normally these are good cars. Again serviced regularly. I've bought tons of them. NOT Avalon's but tons of these kind of cars. Simply better than a one owner repo. At the dealship, it can be a one owner but it could be a repo one owner. In my day they didn't have car faxes. So I'm NOT sure if a car fax says the car was ever auctioned off.

    NOW, individual leasing, that's a whole different ball game. I won't go into difference about individual leasing.

    Times are different. In the 90's, it was not uncommon to see a lot of fleet leasing cars at auctions.

    Hope this helps, Bill
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 586
    This really is not my discussion, but... a good friend of mine spent decades at a major company that gave all managers and others with a certain job type company leased fleet cars. They were always maintained well. Company paid all the bills and the cars were kept in perfect condition although some had higher mileage than normal... still, they were a bargain for whoever got them...
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Yea, of course I agree. These are big leases, giving to companies from Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc. to big companies. In the agreement, or contract, they HAVE to maintain the vehicle. So every time the oil needs changing it's done, tires rotated it's done. All maintaince is kept up by the company. It's part of the deal.

    I loved buying the fleet lease cars. They sold good with very little problems. I never saw Avalon's in the fleet lease cars, but I did see a LOT of Camerys.

    Hope this helps, Bill
  • marv15marv15 Posts: 32
    I agree with you. Other then the styling I was turned off by the interior. So I traded my Avalon 2011 for the 2012 that I will keep for a long time since the 2013 is a trend I don't like. I test drove it and found it finding every bump and letting me know about it. The 2011 or 12 is a softer ride that I enjoy and bigger inside.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Thanks for the update about the 2013 vs 2012 Avalon's. I don't even want to bother to look at a 2013 now. Again thank you for that update.
  • nceencee Posts: 419
    I'm just sad that they took a Very Nice Luxury car, and destroyed it:(

    Yes, in my opinion.

    Ok, so they didn't destroy it, but it is now a Very Nice SPORTS Luxury Sedan, and I have come to appreciate the Avalon as a True Luxury Sedan.

    IF they had made this New Model, the same size as the 2010, 11, 12's, and gave it the same ride (or more comfortable), I think, it would have sold just as well. I say this, because it would have LOOKED the same as it does, just been a better car. And if folks are buying because of the new Look, Style, Fit, and trim, then why wouldn't folks still have purchased it, if it was a bit bigger, a bit smoother and a bit more quiet?

  • jwillinjwillin Posts: 16
    Wow. What a loss. I have a 2011 Avalon which means I will be keeping it for awhile. The 2013 doesn't sound very exciting to drive or even to own. After they decreased the size of the trunk, the only thing to like about the Avalon is that it is so big or has a large interior. You can really stretch out in it and enjoy the ride and also driving it. Thanks for the info.
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    edited January 2013
    I'm just sad that they took a Very Nice Luxury car, and destroyed it:(

    I know what you are saying. Of course they didnt' destroy the car. I bet there are some that even love the NEW 2013 Avalon. HOWEVER, overall, I personally think they are getting away from their base sales. My opinion is that the older people are the main ones that buy these cars. I guess I'm old, I'm 56. Not old enough to be call old but feeling older. :)

    I like the 2011 Avalon because it is big, I love the ride and don't mind paying a little more to ride around in luxury. Thanks for the input. I'll be keeping my for a while, unless I get that 32 thousand I'm asking. ;)
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I haven't owned an Avalon, but have respected them ever since 05 model debuted. I would be happy in one. The 12 especially impresses me, love the cabin.

    My Lexus dealer told me, Toyota and Lexus is following the BMW lead, and moving toward producing a "reliable BMW". That means sportier, faster, and if you look at the stying trend of the dash, it's almost a knock off of the BMW dash, right down to the Mouse. Every manufacturer for decades has tried to reduce the average age of their buyers, Cadillac, Lincoln, Lexus, all of them. Yet, to me, that's a little odd since old guys have the money generally, and there continues to be a vast demand for luxosedanolas, like the Avalon. Pretty soon, 60 year old guys like me are going to be looking hard for a new car with a quiet, smooth ride and lots of relaxing room. Where will we go? I don't see what's so wrong with making one Avalon type model with these characteristics. Sure, we are all dying off, BUT, they make a new batch of 60 years olds EVERY DAY!!! We do renew....
  • :D Hot spit! I just registered here 2 minutes ago so don't know this user interface yet. Hope this goes to gringoviejo. If you or anyone wants our 2000 Avalon XLS we're trying to sell. All garage kept and dealer serviced. About 60K miles, absolutely great shape. Had it detailed. Current offer at $6500 and drives like a new car. Trying to get closer to $8000. Under hood looks newish also. Tring to fix a flashing light problem right now on it to help the sale. Other major forum lists different things to check. Starting tomorrow since dealer found nothing while having car for three days. Any advice is always welcome. :D
  • nan48nan48 Posts: 350
    Good cheap car are usually easy to sell. The part of the country you live in DOES make a difference.

    Seems like you have a pretty good ad started. I would mention any damage, if any, tell if it's a one owner mention that, etc, Plus the report card everyone is looking at today. Having a senior moment fire fox, something like that. Oh yea, clean car fax report. Don't lie about wrecks. The one owner I bought had nothing about the accident it was in. YET, the car had been hit on the back corner. An expert can spot it every time.

    Hope this helps,
  • jim3jim3 Posts: 19
    Drove into my son's yesterday, temp 14 degrees. We had the heater set-up high and floor heat. For most of the 2 and a half hour trip the floor heat was very good but the blower was blowing cool air all the way. Later on in the day we took the car out and got warm air blowing out the vents. Is there something I'm missing here? Or is the heater screwing up?
  • gramzgramz Posts: 102
    Looking forward to the replies you get. The heat has been a thorn in my side since I go the car. Mine heats well for about 30 miles and then it starts with the cooler air. I've found I can adjust manually and get better results.
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