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Audi A6

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  • cstilescstiles Posts: 465
    Why does Audi call this car the "3.2", when the engine actually has 3.1 liters of displacement?
  • penn2penn2 Posts: 61
    If I could ask a more direct question... specifically, pricing. The board about pricing and buying experiences seems relatively dormant. So, would pose the question here -
    I am in the market for the 05 3.2(or 3.1) - would think invoice + 5% would be fair(and taking into consideration TMV) but, best I've been able to do here in the mid-atlantic region is $500-750 off MSRP ...or, in another case, $1500 off(with lease) but, high MF, well above AFS' base lease rate

    What have other 05 3.2 buyers succeeded with?
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Audi has only 6-7% markup in their cars, so at 5% over, you'll only get a few hundered bucks off sticker. The margins at Audi are very thin compared to other companies like Lexus.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    Actually they don't share much...at all.

    Indeed, the VW engine will be transverse so it won't get the true Quattro system rather AWD Passats will get the Haldex-based version of 4Motion.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • kgarykgary Posts: 180
    I picked up my 4.2 last week for $900 over dealer cost.
  • boomsamaboomsama Posts: 362
    Does anyone have the new A6 with the optional Sports Seats? How comfortable are they?
  • Back in early Feb I posted a few messages re serious sporadic acceleration lag (2 to 3 seconds) from a rolling stop in my 2005 A6 3.2--plus jerky acceleration. After two visits and two weeks in the shop, I now have two software/firmware upgrades--one for the battery management system and one for the throttle system. Have had car for three days and problem seems to be cured, and car is again a pleasure to drive. For those with similar issues (there were a couple of you), have your dealer check it out--appears to have worked for me!
  • shudogshudog Posts: 1
    I test drove the new A6 3.2 today and am considering buying it against the GS300 AWD BMW 530xi.
    Does anyone have any positive or negative feedback on this one?
  • penn2penn2 Posts: 61
    Thanks, rjlaero....make sense

    especially since one dealer is trying to convince me that $750 off sticker is really going out on a limb

    although with a AFS' Premier Purhase APR of 3.5%, and a down payment of @ $1K -- which I'm not willing to give
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Audi has 2.9% for 60 mo on A6's right now as well.
  • richcreamrichcream Posts: 205
    "I test drove the new A6 3.2 today and am considering buying it against the GS300 AWD BMW 530xi.
    Does anyone have any positive or negative feedback on this one?


    Yes. Test drive a M35x.
    I was also considering the A6 3.2 and the 530. For the performance, reliability, and for the money (even at the current MSRP pricing on the M) I think the Infiniti is your best bet. Definitely check it out before you go for the Audi, Bimmer, or Lexus.
  • penn2penn2 Posts: 61
    thanks for this , as well....

    although will most likely lease....AFS' current base lease factor for A6 this month is .000129 ... of course, they're trying to get their posted MF of .000189...so far, for standard lease(not AFS Premium Purchase), I have one dealer down to .000155...and so it goes

    what a game
  • jhutchinsjhutchins Posts: 15
    Penn2,

    Only $500 - 750 off MSRP seems stingy. In Maryland, I got about $2250 off MSRP (based on the new MSRP, which is $1K more than the old MSRP was). This was for a fully loaded 3.2 that will be arriving in mid-April. Even if you choose the A6 over the Infiniti M35x (like I did), you should at least tell them you are going to buy the Infiniti if they don't lower the price on the A6.
  • richcreamrichcream Posts: 205
    So what wound up being the bottom line on the 3.2? Pre-tax.
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    The M35/45's seem to go out at or near full MSRP right now.

    Also, just remember that the M series cars have a lot more markup in them than an A6.

    Audi's margins are pretty thin at about 6%. So if a dealer gives you 700 or 800 off sticker on an A6, they're not making a killing off you. Infiniti may have $5000 in markup vs $3500 for Audi on similarly equipped cars.
  • jhutchinsjhutchins Posts: 15
    Slightly over $51K. (I don't have it in front of me, but I think around $51.1K).
  • jhutchinsjhutchins Posts: 15
    Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge the dealer his money. Nor do I think it is outrageous for the dealer to try to sell the car for $500-750 off MSRP. I was just saying that I thought that penn should be able to get more than $500-750 off MSRP, given the real competition in this segment. Going off of Edmund's data, the mark-up on my car was about $4100 (using the higher, new MSRP and invoice), meaning that we about split the mark-up in half in the case of my car. Further, it looks like my deal was only about $300 better than the Edmunds TMV price.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,593
    Ahh, I believe the M's mark-up is less than $4K, comparable to the Audi.
  • richcreamrichcream Posts: 205
    Infiniti dealers are actually pushing just under a $5k markup once you add in the options (say Journey & Tech pkgs., or the Premium Pkg., for example.)
  • penn2penn2 Posts: 61
    jhutchins

    thanks for input -- much appreciated....
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,088
    First Motor Trend, now Car and Driver -- Audi A6 finished 5th of 8th in the $55,000 comparo. And the cool thing was that the Audi WAS able to be had for the price of the test with the sweet 4.2 V8 and STILL came in 5th.

    Once again, Audi -- although fielding a fantastic car -- really has to be of the understanding that this time the Japanese are not planning on taking any prisoners.

    The Audi A6 and Audi in general remain my all time, life to date, favorite cars. However, I think I have reached the point where Audi is quickly sliding off my list for the next 36 months of driving.

    Some of you already will remember, that my wife has ordered a new BMW to replace her third TT (and she had a bunch of A4's, 90's, coupes and 80's before that).

    If anyone from Audi ever lurks here, I volunteer, no charge, no nuttin' -- I volunteer to be one of hopefully 100's of "focus group" people.

    But, I am quite surprised that no one from Audi even bothered to track me down after the March 14th BW article where I was quoted.

    You'd think someone from the Customer Loyalty and Retention department would be wanting to follow up with a customer (household) that has had 27 Audis since 1977. I would think there are darn few folks who have had more than two dozen of one brand in under 30 years.

    Sign of the times.
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    I'm a big fan of C&D and have subscribed to them for almost 15 years. It's a great magazine. But they freely admit that their "final score" is not a true average. It's purely a subjective number they put on a car. They always get numerous letters every month about their subjective math.

    I certainly wouldn't buy a long in the tooth 2wd EClass vs the new Quattro A6. But they put it ahead of the Audi. Car and Driver doesn't compare apples to apples on a lot of these tests. C&D has always gushed over Japanese cars, though. I personally think that they're quite over-rated in many cases.

    Lexus, Infiniti, Audi, Mercedes, and such all build nice cars. You have to buy what you like and not do what some magazine tells you what's best. Audi has gotten a ton of good press on the A6 and they'll be fine and sell a lot of them.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,088
    The Mercedes in question was NOT a long in the tooth car, as I recall it had the new high zoot engine in it, which, in part, was why the Merc was rated higher (than the Audi V8, what were they thinking???)

    I agree with you, though, I would not let a magazine make my decision for me.

    On the other hand, it is "nice" for instance that the Audi has won so many accolades -- just as it is "nice" that the three new Japanese rivals in this class are winning so many Car Editors "hearts" and even are winning objectively too (stats that is).

    As the phrase goes, I would be happy to have almost anyone of these cars (well, maybe not the Jag and the BMW 5 -- at this point); Ok, I'll start over, I'd be pleased as punch to have any one of Acura, Audi, Infiniti, Lexus or Mercedes AWD Premium cars in my garage and as my daily driver (well for at least the next 36 months).

    My heart belongs to Audi, but I am pretty certain my vote, this time, will be with the Infiniti M35x. Perhaps if enough of us EGPC buyers jump to Japanese (or American for that matter) the breed will improve.
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    The V6 engine recently got a much needed upgrade this year on the Mercedes. But the body style really hasn't changed that much. Also, if you price out the 4matic and NOT the 2WD option for option with the A6 Quattro, you're over 60 grand for a V6 E350 4Matic.

    I'd take the glorious sound of Audi's 4.2 V8 over the Mercedes V6 anyday....and for less money. But that's just me.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,088
    . . .please go to the Infiniti M35 board:

    Message - #1590 Dear Mr. Hunt (former VP of Audi of America) by markcincinnati. . .
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    to that post, but I have to point out that I've already been burned once today (check the date!)

    markcincinnati, "Infiniti M35/M45 2006+" #1590, 1 Apr 2005 11:11 am

    :shades:
  • Picked up my new 2005 A6 4.2 Quattro this week (wednesday)! (DVD Nav, voice, cold weather, parktronic, Bose audio XM, sunshades, advanced key) - an absolute gem to drive around town and for my 350 mile road trip yesterday - satelite radio is entertaining - but for 10 bucks a year? - I wish I had the SD card slots in the DVD -
    Oh - the dealer had to replace the DVD head unti before I drove off the lot - now I am eyeing the A8 - so I won't be around this board very long -

    (I test drove the Acura RL several times and already have owned a BMW 535 and Volvo 460GL and a previous Audi 4000 Quattro)
  • tcams76tcams76 Posts: 29
    Edmunds stated that the V-6 uses regular unleaded gas is this correct??
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,088
    Yes, no, but.

    Yes it will run on regular.

    No it prefers premium.

    But if you use regular it costs more so use regular if you are rich.

    Using regular is a "false economy" but other than your wallet there is no actual harm in doing so.

    Ultimately, Audis FSI's, but not this version, will use the FSI to its advantage yielding extra power and economy with CLEAN regular. Too bad we don't have any fuel that is clean -- next year is THE year for the US to convert to such fuel, so it is written.

    Heck, I've been waiting for HDTV since 1999 and the best I can get is "sorta HDTV" sometimes here in Cincinnati. Maybe next year.
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