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Audi A6

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  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    I think tip-lag has dimished quite a bit on the new 3.2 engines w/ the FSI. You can't notice it much anymore...if at all.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    I believe anyone who says they have no tip lag and I also believe folks that say they have it.

    I have deliberately said tip lag not Tip lag -- the reason is I believe too that tip lag, or Drive By Wire (DBW) throttle lag and probably some other kinds of "hesitation" also are real (not simply effecting Audis -- and Porsches -- that is).

    But, one more thing that I believe:

    Robots are stealing my luggage (with thanks to Steve Martin).
  • jeqqjeqq Posts: 216
    I googled that Steve Martin quote and got the entire monologue-very funny thanks. Sort of like Lenny Bruce's routine "TO is a preposition, COME is a verb".

    If next year's gasoline is cleaner, I guess less sulfur, can they mod my engine and give me extra horses and efficiency. I average 14 MPG in NYC, on the highway
    22.
  • galenasgalenas Posts: 1
    Can anyone who has taken out their A6 on a road trip let me know how they felt about it? Are the seats comfortable after driving for long periods? Does the trunk seem to be ample in terms of space for things?
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    I took the 2005 A6 3.2 on a decent size trip....400 miles or so one way.

    I love how this car just soaks up the road. The Audi's are so smooth at 85 MPH. The car just begs to be driven fast. It started pouring down raining, but with the Quattro, I still felt like I owned the road in bad weather conditions.

    I would say that the seats are a bit on the firm side. My butt did ache a little bit after driving 5 hours. But I think a lot of European cars seats are a bit on the firm side on a brand new car.
  • jhutchinsjhutchins Posts: 15
    My wife has taken our new A6 on several trips from the DC area to the Phillie area, and absolutely loves it. Almost every time we are in the car and she is driving, she comments on how thrilled she is that we bought it. I haven't driven it for long stretches of time on the highway yet, but in my relatively short trips on the highway (e.g., DC to Baltimore), the car seems unflappable and you will find yourself driving much faster than you normally would if you are not careful. The only improvement I would make to the seats is to provide a little more lateral support, but I didn't get the special sport seats, which likely would have provided that, had I been willing to pay for it.

    With respect to the trunk, it seems huge to me. I went on a long business trip (about two and a half weeks), and the trunk swallowed up all of the luggage I had to pack (two big rolling garment bags, a backpack, a large briefcase) with no problem whatsoever. I don't think anyone could fairly complain about the size of the trunk on this model.
  • dplushdplush Posts: 9
    I am about to lease a 2005 A6 3.2 and have a few dealerships that have the car I want (Black with Amaretto) with very similar options. The only thing I am concerned about is the wheels, one has the 17 inch all season and the other has the 18 inch all season. The dealer with the 17 inch wheels is telling me they are better in slippery conditions (snow, ice, rain, etc...). Is there any truth to this? Is there a different feel to the car with the different size wheels? Thanks...
  • ctorreyctorrey Posts: 64
    Chances are, the vehicle with the 18" wheels either has the "sports package" or just the 18" wheel upgrade. In either case, I believe the tires fitted with the larger rims are "summer only" as opposed to the all-season tires mounted on the small rims. Maybe some else can confirm or check out the "build your own Audi" on www.Audiusa.com and check out the wheel/tire options.

    FYI: My '05 A4 came with 18" wheels with summer-only tires. Despite quattro and ESP, it was still quite a handful in snowy conditions. Winter tires are recommended when using summer-only set ups.
  • dplushdplush Posts: 9
    The 18" are

    "18" 7-arm alloy wheels with 245/40 all-season tires

    Straight from Audi's website, so they are all-season. all of the cars I am looking at do not have the sport package. Thanks
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    Then by all means go with the 18" wheels/tires. You will get a somewhat more crisp "turn in" with these wheels and tires and since it has the comfort suspension set up you will enjoy, largely, the best of both worlds.

    You will have somewhat sportier tires, a nicer look (subjectively, I admit) and many of the benefits of the sport package without any stiffening of the ride that goes along with the stiffer shocks and reduced ride height (I personally prefer this set up, but the folks at Car and Driver said the A6 sport set up was a bit of a kidney jar-er.)
  • chef_jmrchef_jmr Posts: 41
    I need to know!!!

    Also, can anyone (markcincinnati) give comparisons of the Audi sport package vs. S-line vs. M35 normal & sport packages? Would it be a plausible assumption that the S-line gives a similar ride of the M35 sport?

    I've tested the M35 non-sport, and an A6 Sport 3.2; I feel the M35 was "tighter" and more responsive in its base form. Yet I am leaning towards the A6 for it's interior appeal (subjective) and my love of German "fahrvergnugen", something money just can't buy. Will the S-line bring the A6 to a higher level of sportiness?

    Thanks,

    Jeff
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    You can order a 2006 3.2 w/ the S Line package right now.

    It's basically the same thing as a 2005 w/ the 18 inch wheels and sport suspension you can get on the V6 right now. No difference in ride quality.

    It's more of a cosmetic treatment w/ S line badges, a differernt grill w/ air dam and painted spolier. And the S Line has the RS4 style 5 spoke wheels.
  • liferulesliferules Posts: 531
    When looking at the A6 vs. M35, remember that the A6 just added "interior of the year" award to its other honors.

    As above, the S-line isn't any different engine, that would be the S6 (yet to be released), not the S-line. The S-line just looks sportier (for the most part)...
  • chef_jmrchef_jmr Posts: 41
    Thanks for the replies!

    I thought their was a 10mm difference in ride height between the Sport and the S-Line. The Sport being 20mm lower than stock, and the S-line being 30mm lower than stock... Any truth to this? Or, have I been doing too much research on different cars and getting the numbers mixed up...?

    On another note...

    I have written two emails to a salesperson at the Marin Audi dealer and he has not responded to either of them. I basically asked about the S-line on the 3.2, and special orders for color combinations... (I want the Arctic White on Amaretto). If anyone in the Bay Area has a "preferred" salesperson who would be responsive, please let me know. BTW, I will not deal with the local San Francisco dealership! They are grease balls....
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    I have no clue about the M35 sport. I only looked at the A6 w and w/o sport option and only at the M35X which is one flavor only.

    S-Line in the past has not offered a suspension that is lower than the sport suspension alone.

    The performance differences when there are any are attributable to the +1" wheel size (the A4 sport had 17" S-Line was 18" -- as far as I know the A6 S-Line comes with 18" wheels (at least for '05)). Other possible differences would be due to the body pieces that will or could effect c/d.
  • mikestevensmikestevens Posts: 17
    Anyone know if there are any changes to the A6 for 2006. IMO Audi is lagging behind Lexus and Infiniti in not offering ventilated seats or any sort of MP3 or Ipod capabilities. Both Inifiniti and Lexus also offer rearview cameras, better nav systems and more robust voice recognition. What they don't offer of course, is a fantastic V8 wedded to quattro... ;)
  • richcreamrichcream Posts: 205
    Add to that list of needed upgrades a power telescoping steering wheel. To have a manual version in a $50k+ car is silly.

    I don't know about creature comforts, but the audi salesman I dealt with told me that they have a more powerful V6 lined up for '06-'07. That would be great, what with the new and more powerful German offerings (E350 4matic and 530xi) and the infiniti M35x. (Can't speak as to the GS300 AWD's power.)
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    Amaretto is not available w/ Artic white. You may be able to special oder it, but it may cost a substantial amount of money to get Audi to do something not available for regular orders.

    Also, Arctic white is a sold order color only for 2006.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    The so called 3.2 FSI (for fuel straight injection) has several more tricks up its sleeve prior to what one could only hope for (a bi-turbo option). The first trick so to speak is to realize that FSI was intended to mean fuel stratified injection. I am not capable of explaining all the details but suffice it to say that FSI (the latter) requires a quality of fuel that "is coming soon to a large country in North America" but that is not here yet. What can happen even with the 3.2 is better gas mileage AND more power. There are other engines that have been around (and some that have not) that Audi could easily come up with (and are rumored to be coming up with as we type). There is a 3.7, a 3.6, the full FSI treatment to the 4.2, the addition of a turbo to the 3.2 (wouldn't THAT be sweeeeeeet? and it could easily have 300HP and 300 ft pounds AND burn regular gas too -- fuel stratified, version, not fuel straight version).

    2006? I have read much the same stuff that probably many of us have about some new juice for 2006 (ostensibly to make certain that Audi wins the horsepower war -- over the VW Passat's upcoming power rumor of 280).

    Considering the A6 3.2 replaced (at the price point) the A6 2.7T S-Line at 265 HP and 280 ft pounds at about 150 RPM (just kidding) which was THE quickest A6 of them all (at the time -- 2004) and considering that every other car in this class seems to be producing numbers to 60 UNDER 7.0 seconds, well, Audi had better do something 'cause "Time, keeps flowin' like a river. . . ."

    Had I been surveyed, I would have "voted" for the new A6 to have a slightly shorter final drive ratio and a tiny bit taller 5th and 6th gear which would have improved the 0-60 time and had little "highway" mileage impact. I wasn't surveyed.

    Audis sales numbers, perhaps when viewed in comparison with the other cars "in its class" may be part and parcel because of the perceived performance prerequisites for a premium priced product like the A6 (sorry for the alliteration, I got carried away).

    My guess -- sometime in the next 12 months, the A6 will "get some more muscle" by hook or by crook. Other gradual changes (improvements?) will certainly happen in due course.
  • mikestevensmikestevens Posts: 17
    Well Mark, anyone buying an LPS this year has a difficult decision, and I have certainly enjoyed your informative posts over the past several months. My wife is sick to death of my indecision and I've promised her that I will purchase a car by the end of this week, but I STILL CAN'T DECIDE.

    It's between the A6 4.2 the M45 and the M35x. I really prefer the looks of the A6 (inside and out), and it certainly has more brand cachet (I'm insecure enough to care), but the Inifiniti has loads more tech goodies, is likely to be more fun to drive, and will probably be a good deal more reliable. The M45 will require the hassle and expense of snow tires where I live as well...I swear I have never had this much trouble picking out a car. Maybe I'll just get the RL :P
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