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  • shaunsshauns Posts: 24
    A work colleague of mine recently purchased an LS430 after considering German iron, notably the MB S400 series. He chose the LS430 because it was every bit the match for the MB, but only $55K instead of $90K.

    After riding in it, I can see why he chose it. The car is absolutely silent. Compared to the A6 or other German cars, there is almost no road noise. Only the slightest hint that the road surface underneath is rough.

    Curiously enough, the LS430 is oriented more towards the REAR seat passengers than the front. One of the optional packages includes stereo, environmental, and seat massage/tilt controls in the armrest of the rear seat, plus a refrigerator.
    On the down side, it sure is ugly, and the interior, though of the highest quality, doesn't have the masculine elegance of the A6.

    Good luck with your purchase. I'll wait til the new model change (2002?) to see if Audi has addressed the A6's few deficiencies. I just can't get myself to like the current sedan's exterior styling, and can't see paying over $50K to get good acceleration without a turbo.

    Shaun
  • moimememoimeme Posts: 28
    You can tack on a 3rd-party NAV, but I don't believe you can retrofit for the built-in one. You *can* add on the analog phone. Both are just incredible to use from the built-in information center between the tach and speedometer. Features like these make the car feel as if they were genuinely designed in. Wait a sec...they couldn't work this well unless they were, and it adds tremendously to the experience.

    It's even better when you're on the phone talking to someone and they say "Hey, come join us for dinner at Chez Buffalo Butt" and you don't know where it is. While you're on the phone, you can dial in the destination and your Audi Nav WILL TELL YOU WHAT TIME YOU'LL ARRIVE!

    I frequently use the NAV, just to get an estimate of my arrival time or in case there will be a traffic jam. Hit traffic? Hit the jam button, pick an alternate route (based on extra distance) and bingo... "Hey guys, got caught in traffic, I'll be there in about 12 minutes."

    Sometimes the NAV even finds you ways to get to your own house that you didn't know about.

    The NAV voice in French sounds downright sexy, BTW.

    Oh, and have you ever been traveling and really needed to find a gas station, a restaurant or just wanted to take a break and find a tourist spot to visit? You can dial in LOCAL to get a list of gas stations, restaurants, etc., listed by the distance they are from where you are. Example: find the nearest 76 station.

    You can also program a stopover. Say, you're headed to the restaurant and have to stop at the cleaners first. When you arrive at your stopover, the NAV will re-plot your primary course and be ready to roll when you get back into the car.

    I also love that, if you pass your exit and make a mistake, it just recalculates and gives you the next set of instructions. If there's a detour, take the detour. If someone won't let you merge, just keep going. You no longer care as much as if someone has given you firm, written directions.

    Finally, when you're getting ready to make a turn or take some action, the NAV *does* show you a distance bar that shrinks as you get closer. It also tells you three times when you need to take an action. Example: Prepare to turn left, Turn left in one quarter mile, Turn next left. These are speed adjusted, so if you're creeping along, you'll get warned a few hundred feet before. If you're flying, you'll get the prepare message as much as 1 mile out.

    I just can't tell you how practical and useful this is. It's NOT a toy. I no longer get frustrated trying to work my away around the Bay area (I'm relatively new here). I fearlessly just go, while my friends are calling for directions. The only problem is when the Nav CD is out-of-date; they update it once per year.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    I thought the Nav CD update was every 6 months -- I hope my info is correct, but it almost makes sense that it would just be annually -- the amount of work to get the data file collected and updated must be substantial.

    Anyone who is considering a new Audi, should, after reading the past several posts on the subject, be sold on Nav (and since it comes with the park assist (on the A6), which is also pretty cool, too -- well I would say it is approaching a "no brainer").

    And the factory phone with the center dash readout and the buttons on the steering wheel -- fantastic!

    Now, let's lobby for tire pressure readout and auto tire-pressure regulation. Or, how about an active suspension based on the allroad technology, automatic cruise control and brake lights that get brighter the harder the brake pedal is pressed? High and lowbeam Xenons would be great, too. What about the new 6spd tiptronic and 18" wheels on an A6 etc, etc, etc.

    Somebody stop me.

    I love technology.
  • tmayer1tmayer1 Posts: 7
    This morning I took my 2.7 in for my 3600 mile
    oil change. I get a coupon from my dealer
    Laurel Audi in westmont IL. The cost for my
    service is $39.95. thats with Castrol Gtx oil.

    While I was there they also changed my wiper
    blades. This they did on there own. I never said a word.

    Also they washed my car. While I was waiting I went into the showroom and checked out the new
    S8. Man what a great looking Car.

    So for 45 Bucks (including tax) I recieved and oil change, new wiper blades, and a car wash.
    Also, everytime some one walked by they asked if
    they could help.

    I don't Know if this is exactly lexus standards
    but I left Smiling.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    I thought one of the Audi perks was free maintenance and service for the warranty period. Do I have that wrong?

    Take care.
    Joe W.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    Northland Audi in Cincinnati has been great (not perfect) for over 23 years.

    Wiperblades, washed and vacuumed, tires dressed, fluid levels topped off, pick up and delivery service if I ask, free carwashes for life (every Saturday). Cook outs at the dealership -- special orders of Audi accessories and clothing from the Audi Boutique, pick up of my plates (and they put them on -- not just the first time when you go from temp tag to permanent, every time).

    Follow up calls -- "how was the service?"

    A tin of cookies whenever you buy a car.

    Christmas presents (one year a set of Audi Coasters, next year a walnut shift nob for my wife's car, pen and pencil sets, key fobs, etc.).

    All the sales staff appear interested in you even if you are not their customer.

    The service manager is a jewel -- my wife's power seat broke in one of her Audi A4's -- ON A SUNDAY -- and the seat was too far back for her to drive the car -- the Service Manager, Bill, came to our house (even had his son with him, a little little boy) and reconnected the Power Seat and put a retainer on the plug so that the problem would not happen again -- ON A SUNDAY!!!!).

    The finance guy is great too -- I traded in a 2000 A6 4.2 on a 2001 A6 4.2 and I got the Audi loyalty "deal" even though they (the dealer) had leased the 2000 A6 from a local bank -- which technically is outside the parameter of the Audi Loyalty deal.

    The list goes on and on.

    I know, cause I have read the postings, that this may not be typical -- but here in Cincinnati, when you want an Audi, you go to Northland Audi (I have never heard anything bad about the other Cincinnati Audi dealer -- Beechmont -- so this is NOT meant to dis them -- in fact, I would have to assume that they are quite good, also. We have had such good experiences with Northland, we don't even shop around.)

    How is Lexus, generally speaking, by comparison?

    PS, I assume that there was a charge for the oil change because it was an EXTRA oil change or that the owner wanted special oil -- if I want Mobil 1 there is a charge, if I want an oil change "inbetween" I am charged for EVERY OTHER oil change and the other remaining changes are free. At least this could explain the reason for the charge.
  • tmayer1tmayer1 Posts: 7
    sorry, I should have stated that this oil change was extra to my normal service.

    This is my first German car. I have always owned
    big American Boats. I always kept the cars for 10 years plus. I always religiously changed the oil
    at 3,000 miles and the one thing I always think of is when I drove these cars to the junk yard, no matter how bad the car was falling apart the motor
    ran great. I Quess old habits are hard to break.

    I am sure 6 Months or 8,000 miles is fine but
    I figure if I have to dish out 40 Buck a year
    so my Turbo Motor has fresh oil it is very
    cheap Insurance.

    P.S I have no intention of driving this car to the
    junk yard. I will trade it in for a new S6 in about 5 years. (If I can Part with it)
  • moimememoimeme Posts: 28
    1. Your car doesn't have cruise control? I thought it was built into all A6's. Mine has it.

    2. I wish they would put Parktronic on the front bumper too. Don't EVER scrape the front of your car on concrete. If you do, don't back up while in the car. Make it as light as possible and push the car backward in neutral or you might rip the front skirt off.

    3. You *can* get 18" wheels for the A6, dealer option for the 4.2.

    4. I'm VERY impressed by your dealer. Anderson-Behel has proven impressive for sales (Geordie was my sales person...Joseph was my exceptionally knowledgable finance guy). I've been in for a quick steering wheel reprogramming and service was very good. I'm only at 2100 dreamy miles so far.

    Wish they'd give me cookies, but then, I wouldn't eat them in the car...oh well...

    5. Changing the break-in oil too quickly is *not* a good idea unless you ensure that AFTER 2000 miles, you run the car somewhat hard to seat the rings, BEFORE the first oil change.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    Sure, my A6 has NORMAL cruise control -- but, there is a Bosch technology that some cars have that either warns or "assists" automatically in keeping an assured clear distance between your car and one in front of it -- hence the name Automatic Cruise Control -- ACC can assist you by applying up to 20% braking force when some nitwit "cuts you off" in traffic (freeway traffic -- I am not suggesting to use NORMAL/ACC cruise control in heavy traffic). Also a feature of ACC is a warning that you are within some parameter of distance and speed away from the vehicle in front of you.

    Parktronic front and rear are available on Audi A6's in other countries -- and in the US on the A8 and S8.
  • I just bought a 98 A6 2.8 Quattro. It is supercharged, chipped, exhaust, lowered, and 18in wheels. It has 73k miles. I want to know how the reliability will be on it. Is there any kind of special or preventative maintencance that i should do?? Also, my mechanic said that it has HID headlights. Is this true, it really doesnt look like it? So far, I love it. Ive had it for 4 days. It is loaded except for a cd player. Does anyone know how much an audi cd changer costs? When i turn my brights on, i have to hold the lever, is there something wrong? And the switch to unlock the windows wont stay unlocked. I have to hold the switch down for rear passengers to operate their windows, is it supposed to be like this or is there a problem??

    PS-If there is anyone that knows a lot about 98 A6's, e-mail me at stalknace@cs.com.
    Thanks
  • larry104larry104 Posts: 1
    1)Do all 2.7T's have a vibration between 55-75 MPH or just some? 2) Does this only occur with the sport suspension option? 3)Do 4.2's with sport suspension also have this vibration? 4)Do the sport package seats in the 4.2 differ from those of the 2.7T with sport package?
  • blei1blei1 Posts: 11
    Well, I believe that alot of 2.7s and 2.8Q have a vibration between 55-75mph. Lets put it this way I posted back in September about my vibration problems. After 6 trips to the dealer, a Better Business Bureau hearing, and exam from Audis tech expert(as ordered by the BBB), I am in the middle of a Lemon Law suit not scheduled until Nov. 13. Also have contacts with other customers with same problem and no solution. Audis attorneys have requested to have another expert look at my car on Mar. 26. I cannot believe that I am actually still going through this. This problem started in Feb. 2000. Had tires replaced by expert, drove off of lot and car was immediately vibrating. Expert never contacted me after exam. I am so disgusted. My advice to anyone with vibration problems is to definitely seek other help, because believe me Audi is not willing to cooperate. Anyone interested may want to search Audiworld.com under"vibrations"

    Renee Blei
    2000 2.8 A6Q
    stelrsgal@aol.com
  • mhpressmhpress Posts: 1
    I have heard conflicting claims about the optional rear side air bags. Do the real wheels and axle provide enough protection? Alternatively are the rear side air bags possibly dangerous for a napping or smaller passenger.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    These are good things -- the airbags.

    The rear wheels and axle provides some protection, sure -- but they are in no way substitutes for the extra protection that the airbags and sideguard airbags (ceiling) provide.

    The airbags are meant to be used with the lap/shoulder belt combination -- not without. So if you are napping and wearing your seatbelt and the airbag detonates, it will probably save you from broken body parts -- a good thing.
  • actionmanactionman Posts: 15
    I have always tried to change oil every 3-4,000 miles, whether Jaguar or Chev. Now I have a 96 A6q @ 130,000 miles. Seems that I read in the owner's manual to change at 6 or 8,000. I would assume it's better to get fresh oil more often. Comments??

    Also, is it a do-it-yourself job? Underside looks so nice and clean. Where is the drain plug? Oil filter? What size wrench?

    Absolutely a great car. I imaging it will get picked more this summer than the XJ6 (though the Jag has the appearance factor - in my opinion)

    You all offer great info. Thanks for your help.
  • mariobgoodemariobgoode Posts: 114
    Hi, y'all. I am in the market for an A6 2.7T and found that there is an upcoming design change or facelift for this model. There are 2 photos available on the Automobile Magazine (March 2001 issue), but no other details are available. I need a new car A.S.A.P., as my Audi 90 is more than 10 years old. Maintenance and repair costs are higher. In the meantime, I saw the photos of the 2002 A4 on the Audiworld website, and it looks good. A few minutes earlier, I stumbled upon more details about this new model (the A4) and found that it is wider, longer, and more spacious. It seems to be on the horizon now (should be available by Fall, at the latest). My question is, should I wait for the new A6? The magazine article said it should be available in June this year, meaning, they are shipping these cars out of Germany or Hungary by this time, but dealers know absolutely nothing about the car or its time of arrival. The NY Auto Show is coming up in about a month. Any thoughts, any one? Would appreciate your input. Thanks in advance. Mario
  • ridgeoneridgeone Posts: 1
    I am about to buy a Audi A62.7t. One dealer says take with 17" wheels. Another dealer says take with 16" wheels because if I take with 17" wheels I'll have to change to snowtires in the winter because 17" wheels that car comes with no good in the snow. I prefer not to have 2 sets of tires if possible which means stay with 16". Does anyone have information on this. I could use some help with this, as this will be my first quattro.
  • cubanaudicubanaudi Posts: 17
    As an owner of a 2000 2.7t, I would highly recommend this car. It is absolutely great. I have nothing but excellent things to say of the car, and couldn't be happier. I have not heard anything about any changes for the 2002 model year. The A4 is about to be introduced, but if anything, the changes to the A6 would be minor cosmetic changes. I would definitely wait for the NY Auto Show. If there are any changes, then you decide. Quite frankly, I haven't heard of any changes. Any how, get the car, be it a 2001 or 2002 model. Trust me when I tell you you won't be disappointed.
  • soledocsoledoc Posts: 52
    I'm looking at these two cars for my wife. She has always like BMWs (which I don't ) but has been leaning toward the A6 2.8 with quattro. Safety is a concern to me. I drive swedish cars for that reason. Has anyone compared the A6 with the BMW 525i (or similar '00 528i)? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.
  • timcartimcar Posts: 363
    There are several issues: Do you want 17" or 16"? If you want 17", do you want them with or without the sport package? There are tradeoffs, and it depends on your priorities and personal preferences. You do need different tires for snow than the summer high performance tires that come with the car. If you want good performance, plus capability for moderate snow, consider Dunlop SP5000's. They are an ultra performance all season that has proven effective in snow. Some purchasers have been successful negotiating with a tire changeout with their dealer as part of the deal. SP5000's only cost about as much as the stock performance tires on the 17" wheels. It shouldn't be a a big deal for your salesman to do a no cost swap. If you want to discuss this further, I'm at tmsci@worldnet.att.net
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