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Audi A6

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  • tonyroytonyroy Posts: 3
    Are new A6 buyers concerned about reliability. Have you seen Consumer Reports?????
  • moimememoimeme Posts: 28
    I've had my 2001 A6 4.2 since January 31st. 3300 miles. No problems other than spending too much time taking unnecessary trips. On one occasion, I found myself saying "Thank God for crazy Germans who would build a car this incredibly beautiful and for convincing Audi Financial Services to let me lease it."

    Buy one...drive it for a month or two...you'll get religion...
  • I think a lot of the people who aren't concerned with reliability are primarily those who lease (and those who don't mind going to the dealer to have "minor" problems repaired). If you are keeping a car for a longer term, it is definitely an issue. Ignore Consumer Reports at your own risk. I like the A6 very much, but I cannot overlook the problems that have been reported. Some owners are trouble free, but the overall probability is an important factor. Personally, I am still hopeful that reliability will improve as Audi continues to refine the design. Even a Lexus will have problems that are expensive to repair as it ages and after it is out of warranty.
  • jwilson1jwilson1 Posts: 956
    Real cars have real problems, no matter which brand. That said, CR has the advantage of a broad range of numbers rather than just a personal example. According to a chart in the same issue referred to, I suppose a majority of Audi drivers might be trouble free, but their reports from owners indicate that Audi owners report a problem 40% more often than the AVG. car.

    I love the A6 from one end to the other, but I'm going with Acura which reports problems 20% of the time less often than the avg. car. I don't have time to sit around a dealer's waiting for repairs. (Now, watch me get a lemon from Honda!)

    Take care.
    Joe W.
  • cubanaudicubanaudi Posts: 17
    I have a 2000 A6 2.7T, a "car to avoid", as said by the morons at Consumer Reports. I am glad to report that after 8 months and 7,500 miles, the only problem I've had is the front passenger window coming off the track. I stopped into the dealer (The Collection, in Miami) on a Saturday afternoon, and they promptly took care of it. They let me test drive a TT cabrio during the wait (all of 10 minutes). The car and the dealer are amazing. If you want a appliance-like prozac-mobile, the kind recommended by CR, run to your local Honda or Toyota dealer, and get one of their cars. If you want something a little more exciting, either BMWs, Audis, MBs, Saabs, Porsches, and even Volvos or Mazdas are much more exciting. With that excitement, however, comes a few more "headaches" than normal.

    I trust Car and Driver much more to lead me to a good car over Consumer Reports anyways.
  • max63max63 Posts: 72
    Going on two years with my 2.8 A6 which has 27,000 miles. The only problems have been my cup holder which wont stay down and a minor rattle coming from the steering column. Other than that, no problems with the car. The 2.8 just does not cut it off the line, I would spend the extra money on the 2.7 in a cc. But the comfort, interior quality is by far the best in its class. Overall this car gets high marks with me.
    By the way, Consumer Reports should not be judging cars!! They give the A6 high grades for satisfaction and depreciation, but dot recommend it because of reliability - which I dot have a problem with. However, this same magazine will recommend the Mitsubishi Gallant, with an average reliability rating and below average satisfaction and depreciation rating - that makes sense. If you worried about the A6, lease it no longer than the life of the warranty.
  • moimememoimeme Posts: 28
    Seriously, the bi-turbo technology pushes the envelope a lot. After scanning AudiWorld for 8 months, I haven't seen more than 2-3 minor complaints about the 4.2, and the complaints about the 2.8 tend to be about "off-the-line" performance.

    You WILL NOT find a more overall pleasurable car for under $80,000, regardless of which model you choose.
  • mlevinedcmlevinedc Posts: 45
    My 98 A6q 2.8 can't get out of it's own way with the A/C on! 40 days to the end of lease and counting.

    Here's a question and comment for the Audi lovers out there reference to the A8 or S8:
    In the state of CT there is only one body shop qualified to work on an aluminum body/frame car involved in an accident. Did you know it could take more than 6 months for even a minor repair?

    65,000.00 worth of funny eh?
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    I had a 1997 (leased it new) A8, Pearl White -- MINOR body/paint work could be done in Cincinnati.

    More than minor, however, and the car had to go to Chicago -- while there (and I do not know how long a fender bender would take) -- the "deal" was you (the A8 owner) got the use of an A6, free of charge.

    I never had to test this out, but I didn't think this was too bad a deal -- now if a fender bender would take six MONTHS, well that would have been a bummer.
  • actionmanactionman Posts: 15
    My 96 A6q has over 130,000 miles. I know that the sunroof had some kind of problem, the stering rack leaked, some problem with the ignition, and I think the battery and alternator have been replaced once. Is this reliability acceptable? I think it's pretty good. I hope I can get thousands more miles on it.

    I've always found CR is good at reviewing basic products. When they try to review hi end home theater equipment or non-basic cars, they can't seem to find the same attributes that appeal to those informed and interested in that level of hardware.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    I would say that your reliability is not just "pretty good" -- I would say it is a very solid "good." Maybe even a smidge more than good, in fact. My Japanese car owning friends (Acura, for one) seem to have cars that "take a lickin' and keep on tickin'" -- that is, they are routinely equal to or better than your experience. But I still wouldn't want one -- my A6's reliability (I have had several of them, starting in 1995) have also been good or better. And the Audi's are not at all Bland!
  • nszabonszabo Posts: 19
    If you are complaining about your Audi reliability get a cheap Toyota or Honda they are reliable but not nearly as good engineered as the A6.
  • Why do you think Audi offers a MASSIVE warranty. To make sure the car is relable for you.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    I have been sniffing around, trying to find out the anecdotal reliability of some of my friends and associates cars.

    Saab: my friend loved the car (an upper range turbo), kept it 8 years and had many trips to the dealer, most of them paid for by Saab -- and while he loved the car he traded it on a

    Volvo (V70): and kept this 3 years, sold it to his daughter, who still has it 3 years later (with a new set of tires and some work on the A/C) also traded this Volvo in on an AWD Volvo with the turbo 5 cyl; sold this one to his other daughter, who still has it -- this time he got a

    Cadillac (de Ville?): the biggest one with front wheel drive -- from the day he got this 2000 model Caddy it spent more time in the shop than in his driveway -- "lemon lawed" GM into a 2001 model and is very happy.

    Infinity: J followed by an i30 -- this friend got rid of the J after spinning it out on an interstate (no harm, no damage, no foul -- thankfully); deciding that front wheel drive was a little more "safe" (and I know this can be debated, but I happen to generally agree with him -- if you can't get a quattro, that is). Reliability of both cars has been very high -- it seems that the Infinity's don't mind if you ignore them completely. His other car is a

    Chrysler Sebring, Convertable: once out of warranty, it seems like he keeps having $1,000 repair bills -- last week it was the ABS sending unit, now it needs valve cover gaskets to stop the oil leak, etc. etc.

    Olds Aurora: this friend had suspension problems, Olds put entire new suspension in the car, after 36 months it seems to me he had few problems, yet he bought a

    5 series Bimmer: to replace the Olds -- it had several mostly minor problems, after three years he got a

    Chrysler 300M: the jury is still out -- no real problems in three months.

    Audi A4 1.8t q: 6 months into the lease this friend loves the car and has had no repairs or any thing else that would be considered non-routine another friend's

    A4 2.8 q: engine light comes on, no reason -- soon to be fixed, two or three trips to the dealer to diagnose and hopefully finally cure

    VW New Beetle: guy loves it, trouble free

    Passat: hates the cupholders, no problems, loves the dealer, lusts for an Audi (got the Passat with the 1.8t @ 150HP and 5 spd -- likes to call it his A5)

    Mazda, Toyota, Honda: these folks "worship" these things -- because they are "fill em up and forget em" cars

    Merecedes 190: hates the power, power seats went belly up ($1,400) out of warranty, doesn't care for the car on snow and ice and traded it in on a

    Boxster non-S: which he loves, but won't use for 4 months of the year, his other new car is a

    BMW 3 series: which he also loves, but "gets stuck" in it frequently (I don't know why or if stuck means -- road condition stuck or reliability stuck)

    Other numerous Audis:

    1998 A6 -- guy loves the car and hates the "mostly unreliable" nature of the engine (for no reason it just stops starting in the morning, and no relation to weather)

    1997, '98, '99.5 A4's -- love the cars and are repeat buyers, minor problems all free

    2000 TT: loved the car, traded it for a 2001 with the 225HP engine (no complaints other than the need for a "new fuel sending unit in the 2000 -- car always read full; zero problems with 2001)

    Assorted GM cars/trucks: beat 'em but can't kill 'em but aren't much fun to drive so say owners

    Neon: described as the "hose me out" car -- minor reliability problems, no biggie, high value

    Dodge Intrepid: loves the car, no problems, bought another one liked it so much (ES package)

    Jeeps: another religous group here -- not too reliable, but for some reason owners seem to wear Jeep Ownership like a badge that says you are in a secret club. "I wouldn't want to be in any club that would have me as a member." -- W. Allen

    Ford trucks: built Ford tough -- reliable, not too much fun, not very comfortable, don't ask me.

    Chevy Impala (the big one 1996): loves it, very reliable, fast in a straight line -- did I say, he loves it?

    Honda 2000: the sports car, my Opthamologist loves his -- says it is fast, cheap -- visceral (SP?)

    Lexus: see Honda, Toyota, Mazda -- very quiet inside, well made, reliable -- boring (did I say that?)

    1994 Audi 90S quattro: "I hate this unreliable piece of !@#$" -- so says my insurance agent.

    2001 Audi 2.7T: wheeeeeeee, what a fun car (is it reliable?) -- so far.

    That is a pretty much full report.

    You pay your money and. . .you know the rest.
  • len13len13 Posts: 5
    Wow, quite a comprehensive list. Just one thing...I think it was Grouch Marx who said "I wouldn't want to join any club that would have me as a member." Sorry, couldn't resist.
  • morphiemorphie Posts: 94
    The 2001 "deals"you reference seem very poor. In New England, virtually every Audi dealer is selling 2001's for invoice, or slightly above. I would not give the dealer your business.

    As regards Consumer Reports: an excellent publication for rating toasters and washing machines. When our A6's produce properly done bagels and laundry, I shall pay attention to CR. Until that time, I consider them purveyors of drivel, particularly when subjective analysis is involved.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    You are 100% correct -- Woody used the line, Groucho "invented it."

    Sorry.
  • nszabonszabo Posts: 19
    The engine light comes on if you over fill the gas tank so once the handle clicks take it out.
  • I have had my used '98 A6Q (42k miles) for a week and, boy, was I disappointed to read the Consumer Reports Annual Auto Issue. I love this car utterly. How can it be bad?

    After reading the above posts, I noticed that my floor mats have NO FLOOR ANCHORS. Was this a problem with anyone else? I've never heard of anchors being pulled out. This explains why the mats keep shifting around.

    Also, my dashboard's "BRAKE LIGHT" warning came on for 10 seconds but we checked the brake lights and they were all fine. Any ideas? Am I going to die?

    There haven't been any "real" problems and I'm very impressed with the A6 overall. The attention to detail (the aluminum trim around the rear seat's air vents? wow!) is reassuring.

    CR does great reports on consumer products, but the car reports are partially based on what we, as subscribers, write on our survey each year. This means that there is not a completely scientific basis for the reliability reports.

    For example, the kind of person who LIKES to fill out surveys is more likely to report a problem than someone who doesn't. Imagine a Jaguar owner compared to a Mazda owner. Two very different people.

    Also, and I'm guessing here, the Jag owner may be less likely to even subscribe to the magazine than the Mazda owner. For the record, I do tend to trust CR more than doubt them.

    And another thing, the rear of the A6 is the reason I was attracted to it. I have heard that there are some who dislike the A6/TT rear ends (Edmund's, for one) but I can sincerely say that they are nuts. If you don't like the backside, try on a Pontiac for size. This may be more your cup o. tea. The current body style is plain old good design.

    Since I didn't get manuals with my car, I would sincerely appreciate any other tips on what to expect when my local dealer (bought it out of town) gets it on the rack for a check up. The brakes are a sure thing. Is there a 45k mile service? Know where to order new manuals online?

    Thanks for any and all help!
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,047
    I say the following as a loyal Audi owner and almost promoter: Get an extended warranty on your A6 before 50,000 miles (the limit of the original factory warranty). There MAY be a 25,000 add-on warranty avail from Audi of America (I think it is between $500 - $1,000) which would be the cost of one (1) relatively minor repair after the 50K mark.

    Yes it may turn out ot be expensive insurance -- but as great as we all seem to agree these cars are, they are expensive to maintain and BREATHTAKINGLY expensive to repair.

    PS I have had a 1995 S6 (hot rod A6) 1999, 2000 and 2001 A6's -- these are terrific cars from virtually every angle and especially from behind the wheel.
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