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Dodge Intrepid

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  • eeeleeel Posts: 57
    i thought i read it was based on the lh platform - i'll try and look at past magazines and see.
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    eeel,

    check out this cut and paste from allpar.com. the original citadel may have been based on the lh platform, but it appears that the production version will be built on the minivan platform.

    "The new vehicle, code-named CS, uses design cues from the Chrysler Citadel concept car, but is built on the Grand Caravan platform and in the Grand Caravan plant. It is powered by the 3.5 liter V6, and will reportedly be available with both front and all wheel drive. Prices are set in the mid to upper $30,000 range."
  • eeeleeel Posts: 57
    thanks- i knew we'd figure it out - sharp looking wagon - upper 30's - don't know if people will pay that for a mopar - what do you think
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    don't have the slightest clue how popular it would be, but not something i'd likely look at for purchase anyway.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,596
    ...I know I wouldn't pay it, but the way inflation is going, I guess we'll get there, eventually!

    I remember looking at a fully loaded Intrepid ES in the showroom for the first time...must've been around 93-94. I was shocked that the thing had a $25K window sticker. I was thinking "25K for a Dodge...what's the world coming to!"

    Buick is another one that I've noticed has really crept up there. When I was a kid, my grandparents bought a brand new '85 LeSabre, just about fully loaded, for $16,200. Nowadays, I've seen LeSabres with $30K stickers, and Park Avenues pushing $40K!

    I don't think I've caught up with the times yet, because to me $30-40K is Cadillac territory! So until Chrysler slaps an Imperial badge on something (and something worthwhile, this time!), I don't think it should be in that range! (But then, isn't Cadillac territory more like $50K+ by now?)

    -Andre
  • eeeleeel Posts: 57
    i know what you mean about the prices but - i've bought 3 lh cars new (93 vision/95 & 98 intrepid)
    and got them much cheaper than priced. the 93 vision listed at 20k - got it for 16.5k
    95 intrepid 19k - got it for 17.2 - the 98 intrepid was 21k - paid 19.1 and i think i may have been able to do better on the 2 dodges (not the eagle - that was the best deal i've gotten on a new car) but actually i was quite happy with the prices. i guess my point is you can most always get them at a lower price. still have the eagle by the way - still running strong at 135k
  • temprontempron Posts: 8
    I have not checked in for a couple of months. My black 2001 Intrepid ES is just perfect. No problems whatsoever. This car is slowly improving the overall quality of my life not only because I love it so much, but also how little it cost! I am a guy who spent too many years paying big bucks for status cars. For those that may be considering a purchase, if my reports seem to good to be true feel free to mail me.
  • erict3erict3 Posts: 1
    I just bought a 1999 Intrepid ES with 60,000 mi.
    Paid 13,500. I love the way the car drives and handles. Gas milage 23 a gal.

    Any advice would be helpful
  • My 95 Intrepid seems to have all the usual Intrepid symptoms at 75,000 miles

    - Transmission use to not switch gears smoothly, now it is stuck in first gear. I called the dealler and he says that the computer puts it in safe mode when something is wrong with the tranny. Dealler says could be a lot of different things. I have seen some web sights and they have a number of things to try. Meanwhile, the mechanic wants 1800 to rebuild it, but I read here that it should cost 2,000 for a new one.

    - Before the transmission problem, the car was pulling back when driving on the highway.

    - My Water pump and timming belt went about a month ago (they charged me $1,000 for it.)

    - The rear tires are wearing on the inside, they seem to go out of allignment easily (happened to a friend of mine as well.)

    Read other notes in this stream for ideas
  • abbanatabbanat Posts: 57
    I have a '96 Intrepid ES 3.5 liter.

    -$1,000 for timing belt and water pump seems really high. I had my timing belt replaced for around $200-$250 and I know the water pump is not an expensive part.

    -I just had my tires rotated, have been doing that every 5,000 miles. My tire center says to rotate them every 3,000 miles. They seemed to mention something about uneven wear. I have the service contract with my tires (free rotations)so they had no incentive to lie to me on that one. It may help your tires wear better.

    -My transmission went out at 65k miles. Sounds like yours is in limp-home mode. My mechanic told me it could be several things as well, but couldn't find out until they looked at it. Apparently I needed a rebuild, and it cost me over $2k. If you do rebuild it, try installing an auxiliary transmission cooler to further protect it. That is, if you plan to keep the car for any length of time.

    Good luck!
  • jsylvesterjsylvester Posts: 572
    See the website


    http://www.allpar.com


    for info on tranny repairs.


    The waterpump issue is a possible $1,000 repair if you have the old 3.5 liter engine, as when it goes, it could cause some engine damage. Thankfully, the 1998 redesign brought a completely new 3.5 engine, and this is not an issue on the new one.


    Again, for a repair of this cost, I would consider getting a second opinion. Many mechanics are so pressed for time to reach their hour requirements on repairs that they use a sledgehammer when sometimes a scalpel will work.

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,596
    Hey gang,

    I just got this snippet from my Mopar mailing list...

    "For those interested: Dodge will be back in the squad business for 2002. For 2002 and 2003 the Intrepid police package will be FWD and have the 3.5L-V6.

    For 2004 the new Intrepid will see police service as a RWD police package with the 353 V8.

    Mopar is doing this for 2002 and 2003 to prepare for the real squad launch in 2004. They are also doing this, because 2001 is the last year for the Cherokee squad, and they don't want to leave the squad market for two years in between for prestige/reputation reasons."

    Hopefully, there's some truth to it ;-) I think it would be kinda cool do have an Intrepid with an engine putting out the same displacement at a '57 Saratoga! (well, almost...the '57 would've been a 354)

    -Andre
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    You got some good info Andre. Yes we are going to be building police Intrepids. They even come with vinyl floor instead of carpet. I cant wait till 2004 , RWD and a V8 option . That should be fun.
  • bvanderbvander Posts: 3
    1. Warranty replacement of electric driver's seat. One of the motors wouldn't work.
    2. At ~50k miles, replaced sway bar links. Dealer said this is typical.
    3. Warranty replacement of A/C condenser.
    4. Recharge A/C system 4 different years.
    5. Transmission went out last year with ~120k miles. I didn't realize the transaxle gets gear lube oil and is not part of the transmission. Simply filling the gear lube with 80W-90 weight oil every year would have saved my transmission.
    6. Water pump went out and chewed up my timing belt. Replacing them myself. Timing Belt and water pump cost ~$115.
    7. Intake Manifold upper and lower gaskets replaced with ~122k miles. Dealer said this is typical for these to go out.
    8. Had an engine 'miss' recently. I checked everything, cylinder compression, replaced plugs and wires, vacuum checks, etc. Dealer found that the spark plug gap is now 0.035" rather than 0.050" based on a Technical Bulletin. Car ran great until the water pump went out a few days later.
    9. If it were not for me doing most of the work myself, I would have sold this car a long time ago due to the repairs.
    When the car is running, its great with lots of head and leg room for me (I'm 6'3" ~250#), lots of trunk space, handles great, engine and transmission are smooth.
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Bvander- sorry to hear about your problems with your ES. Unfortuantly the first couple of years of the LH were prone to many problems. A/C has been the biggest by far. Yes when the car works it is a great car . Hope this has not scared you off of the Intrepid as a future replacement for this car. The 2001 have gotten 1000 times better than the first generation .
  • jsylvesterjsylvester Posts: 572
    Is there any upgrades to the tranny or suspension on the police package? Since the 300M is coming out with an increased horsepower special edition, any chance a possible tranny upgrade would make it on the R/T for 2002? Just wondering, as I am sure any horsepower upgrades could be retrofitted to an older R/T, and don't want the tranny turning to rice chex.

    Our local police dept. has a few 98-99 Intrepids in police service. Of course, they still have a few Caprice, but I think for 2001 they bought Crown Vics.
  • dmceresidmceresi Posts: 3
    yO, I GOT A 95 INTREPID WITH A 3.5 L ENGINE AND I WANT SOME NEW RIMS CUZ THE ONES I GOT SUCK, BUT I NEED TO KNOW THE LUG PATTERN FIRST, NEone KNOW THAT?

    WHAT IS IT?
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,596
    You might want to double check, but I think the Intrepid, and all LHS bodies, use the 4.5" 5-bolt pattern.

    -Andre
  • dhughes3dhughes3 Posts: 56
    I'm probably too late with this and you've already bought or not bought the 97 Intrepid. You don't say what motor, 3.3 or 3.5. I have a 96 with the 3.3 and your husband's drive sounds a lot like mine, which is about 30 miles each way to work, 80% of that freeway. Under those conditions I regularly get 26-27 mpg and manage to keep up with traffic while doing it. That doesn't mean you'd get the same, as many drivers can easily consume a lot more gas due to driving habits, but it shows the car is pretty economical if you use it right.
  • abbanatabbanat Posts: 57
    My '96 Intrepid ES had a major problem today: While sitting in the McDonald's drive through, I noticed our engine temperature gauge drifting above the halfway point which seemed a little unusual. That normally only happens when I'm towing our popup trailer up steep hills for a long time in hot weather. But I was just sitting in the drive-thru. Granted, it was over 100 degrees today but it still seemed odd. Then, the needle kept drifting and drifting and drifting very quickly until it almost reached the redline. I decided to turn off the engine and smoke started coming out of the right side of my engine compartment. I thought, "this doesn't look good." So I'm stuck in the drive-thru in between the cashier and the food provider and I thought, "am I going to be able to get out of here." Well, my wife looked under the car and sure enough I had a pool of green coolant beneath the car. I was able to drive the car to a parking lot and call a tow truck who towed it to my local mechanic. Can anybody diagnose this? Does it sound like a radiator hose leak or is this symptomatic of the water pump failure I've heard about? Couldn't ask my mechanic because they are closed on the weekends.

    The reason this post is addressed to you Andre, is because we took the bus to the airport to rent a car for this weekend. We have to drive to my parents house for fathers day and can't take my wife's company car. We had the choice of renting an Escort (no way) or for $6.00 more we could rent a 6-cylinder Mustang (whoopee! I passed)$8.00 more a day to rent a Taurus (same as my wife's company car and I said no way to that too)or a 2001 Intrepid. We decided on the Intrepid. The one we rented was a Gold Intrepid SE with, I think, the 2.7 liter V6. I've only had it for less than half a day but I must say I'm pretty impressed with it if it's the base model. Nothing fancy, just power locks and windows, AC, etc., but thought I would give my input. Power is more than adequate, though torque is a little on the lean side at low speed. But it was much better than I expected. Leg room up front was typical Intrepid (as we had discussed earlier) but the engine was real smooth and quiet. In fact, this base model is much quieter on the highway than my '96 ES. Now, if there was more legroom up front, and the bottom seat cushion tilted back, I would seriously consider this car. I thought it did a little better in fuel mileage than what I'm reading (20/28). One final question: It doesn't appear the back seats fold down. Do they in yours and are they an option in higher-level Intrepids? Are you experiencing the fuel economy for which it is rated?
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