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Dodge Intrepid

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  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    What you have to do with an ABS car when you bleed the brakes is open the solenoids in the ABS pump so that no air remains in the system . The factory service manual says to bleed the brakes the normal way first , then bleed them with a BRD scan tool to open the solenoids and then to rebleed them all over agin with no DRB .
     I dont think the ABS is problem with that car , if the line is cut you would lose fluid and you would have no brakes . If it does not move well something is jammed or damged that causes the car not move
  • vikdvikd Posts: 187
    ...Wife is looking to unload the Civic. We saw your exact vehicle ('00 2.7l) with the standard automatic and 43k at the local dealership yesterday.

    What are your general thoughts on this vehicle? I assume, since this is the Intrepid board, that there will be a fair amount of fans of this vehicle here and that's fine. I'd also like to hear about the concerns with this veh though, as well as the positives.

    I've honestly not shopped the Intrepid before (like I said, this would be the wifey's) so I am pretty uninformed at this point. I would appreciate any feedback you, or anyone else, could give me regarding this veh. Thanks!

    Regards... Vikd
  • jsylvesterjsylvester Posts: 572
    If the selling price of 2000 Intrepid SE's are what I think they are, I would not have any qualms about buying one. While I have an R/T, I think the SE may have a smoother ride, and I think the 2000's had not been so badly cheapened up yet.

    That being said, there should be tons of used Intrepid's floating around, so I would take the time to look at a number of them. A lot of Intrepids have been either former rental cars, or owned by younger people who may not have spent the money to maintain them properly. So I would take my time and look at a few.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Anyone else experiencing this? My trunk will open ONLY with the key...the remote works for the door locks and the "panic" feature but won't open the trunk. Neither will the trunk release on the dash.. OTTOWRKER...is this a fuse?
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,026
    Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, but I just got back from the all-Mopar nationals in Carlisle, PA about an hour ago. Sad isn't it, that the first thing I do is get on the computer!!

    Anyway, I've been pretty happy with my '00. It has just under 82,000 miles on it, and I can't complain. I hate to sound too generic here, but the best thing you could do is get a competent mechanic to look the thing over, and check out the usual trouble spots. Hopefully, you can see the service records for the car. The 2.7 is a good little engine, but I've heard it's prone to sludging if you let it go too long between oil changes. I always change mine every 3-4K (I try for 3K, but did let it stretch to around 4K a few times).

    I believe they got most of the kinks out of the tranny by '96 or so, but they still keep on tweaking it here and there, with every new model year, so I'm guessing it's still not bulletproof. I get my fluid changed every 30,000 miles, just to be safe. I think the owner's manual says every 100K miles for "regular" service, and every 50K miles for "severe" service. I'm not taking any chances though. I'd rather pay the $100 every 30K miles to have my mechanic service it, than worry about a $2500+ repair sometime down the road. Maybe if I was going to trade the car in soon, I might be tempted to skimp, but I need this thing to last me.

    Anyway, here's a rough rundown of things that have gone wrong over the years...

    30K miles: new tires (OEM Goodyear Eagle GA's wear out FAST!), tranny service, alignment check.

    35K miles: power lock actuator in driver's door went out, replaced under warranty.

    39K miles: new front brake pads (I delivered pizzas back then, with a lot of stop-and-go driving. I was pleasantly suprised that they lasted that long, but I think others on this board have gotten more out of them)

    ~44K miles: rear door seal started to shrink, letting in air, but not water. Also, the passenger side mirror adjust went out, but I just left it broken, and adjust it by hand if it shifts.

    51K miles: new rear brake pads, spark plugs, and thermostat housing. I've heard the thermostat housing is actually a common problem on these. At least, that's what my mechanic said. It cost about $210 to replace. The part was around $84, and the rest was labor to put it on. It had actually been leaking for awhile, but stupid me, it looked like it was leaking out of a nozzle, so I thought it was supposed to do that! That's what I get for being so used to older cars, that would actually blow off a little coolant when pressure got too high. I should've known that no new car is supposed to do that!!

    62K miles: tranny service, alignment

    69K miles: new front brake pads. I made the mistake of putting cheap, no-name pads on at 39K. This time around, I put some fairly expensive Bendix pads on, so they should last a lot longer.

    77K miles: new tires.

    And that's about it, other than occasional stuff like rotating the tires, every 3rd oil change, and replacing the air filter and pcv valve every 15K miles or so.

    I'm honestly not sure when the belts and hoses come due, but the coolant is supposed to be good for 5 years/100K miles, I think. Just to play it safe though, I might have the belts, hoses, and coolant, and tranny, done in November or at 90K miles, whichever comes first. In Nov, I'll have had the car 4 years, so I figure that's a good interval, anyway.

    As for gas mileage, I've gotten anywhere between just under 20 mpg (wintertime, delivering pizzas, running on that nasty oxygenated gas) to just over 30 (on a trip, running around the speed limit of 65...Dad was in the car and he gripes when I go too fast!)

    I think 2002 was actually the year they started cheapening them up. One thing I noticed was that they quit putting carpeting and cloth on the door panels. The cloth was replaced with vinyl and the carpet was just gone, exposing the hard plastic underneath.

    Somewhere along the line though, they dropped a few other things. I think they also dropped the rear sway bar (a shame, because even in base form, the 'Trep would outhandle uplevel versions of cars like the Regal, Taurus, Impala, etc), and the tint on the windows. Mine still gets hot enough inside with the windows all the way up though, so I'm not sure how useful the tint is, anyway!

    Last time I was at the dealership was about a month or so ago for a recall...something about some bolts in the backrest of the seat that could break. While I was there, I looked around the lot, and saw about 5 or 6 '02 Intrepids, all base SE models, with about 20-25K miles on them, for around $12,995. Some of 'em had alloy wheels, some of 'em didn't.

    Well, that's it in a nutshell...hope this helps. Also hope you're still awake after reading all this!!
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    jason , HHHMMM !!! thats a question that cant be easily answered over the web. But if both the button and fob wont make the trunk open , could be the little motor on the trunk realese unit itself. You would have to check for power and ground at the motor. then go from there
    Hope this helps
    Otto
  • 93taurus93taurus Posts: 6
    This is my first message to my fellow Intrepid owners. Bought my Trep in 7/02. I rented a similar Trep on my vacation in Florida. I loved the car, so I purchased a 98 trep with a 2.7 litre engine, with 6.000 miles on it. The only problems that I have experienced was the a/c blew hot on a 100 degree day. The dealer took care of it after two attempts. I beleive they replaced a body control module, which was covered under warranty. Also they replaced the rear door seals at no charge. Has anyone considered a performance exhaust with twin pipes?
  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    My wife and daughter just picked up our 2002 Intrepid this morning. A silver SE, power seat, CD, keyless entry, bench seat, 21,000 miles. Final price was $10,800.
    I also have a 2001 for business use that we bought in May of 2002, and I have been very please with it. It is hard to find a better buy out there right now - the value quotient is high.
    The business car is a Chrysler Intrepid, bought in Canada as an Avis used rental car. Intrepids are badged as Chryslers in Canada.
    Probably will look into the extra warranty for the new 2002 - wonder what that will cost for 5yr/100,000 miles?
    Cheers,
    Scott D.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,026
    congrats on the second purchase! I don't know what an extended warranty would cost on a used car, but on my '00, when I bought it new, it was $1205, for what they call "bumper to bumper", although there's still a lot of things that doesn't cover. Mine also has a $200 deductible.

    I got it through the dealer, and have never had to use it. I dunno if I overpaid or not, but I figure if the tranny or engine blows at 99,000 miles, it'll more than pay for itself!

    I always thought it'd be kinda cool to have a Chrysler Intrepid...I think it would make a neat conversation piece! I wonder if that causes them problems though, selling Chrysler Concordes and Chrysler Intrepids in the same showroom?
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    andre1969- dont forget about the 300M , all three LH cars selling in one dealer .
      I myself do not like the Intrepid being a Chrysler in Canada. Chrysler to me is the luxury brand of DC . The Trep should be Dodge , the performance division. The Cocncorde is luxury , the Trep sporty/performance amd the 300 luxury performance . I hope when the LX cars come out the Dodge version will be Dodge in Canada .
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    Your 02 Intrepid may have a transferable 7/70000 powertrain warranty as standard equipment. When I was looking for used ones, I called up Chryslers 800 Warranty number. Any Intrepid put in service after, I believe, the middle of July 02 has this warranty. I do not remember the exact date. Notice I said put in service, not the manufacturing date. Its a pretty good warranty, covering major engine and trans components.
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    just passed the 5000 mile mark. Still no dents, dings, etc. Looks showroom new. I actually received a few comments on the car (the last time I can remember was when my 1976 White Firebird Esprit was new). I think most people are attracted by the color- easily the best color for a Trep in my opinion. Also, no problems since the ABS controller was replaced. The A/C even works - a luxury I have not had for the past 8 years.
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    Cleaned the 'Trep inside last night (vacuuming and treatment of the leather and vinyl), checked the fluid levels, air pressures. Heading out for what I hope is about 2500 uneventful miles over about 10 or 11 days. Up to Delaware through and over the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, stop overnight, then on to NY City for the weekend, then over to western PA on Monday, if all goes well. 66,000 miles now, but will be nearing 70,000 soon. The 'Trep still seems like a new car to me, but now I realize it is 4 and a half years since I picked it up.

    That steel blue is a nice color, unavailable in 1999 when I ordered this Champagne one. I tried to get the cypress green, but then it was only available with the dark grey interior, and I wanted the saddle tan. So ours is champagne with tan leather inside. The outside sure doesn't show much dirt.

    I have had light colored cars for 20 years, but darker ones seem to be catching on. The whites and yellows are said to be more visible but sometimes the dark ones look so good when they are clean. They sure have cut down on the options as far as doors, paint, and interior colors over the years. All money saving for the manufacturers.

    Keep safe out there.

    ES 99
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,026
    I saw a new 'Trep in that Butane Blue color. Now that's a sweet color! Almost makes me tempted to trade in on a new one...almost!

    That's dumb, that the cypress green only came with the dark gray interior. I'd think that a tan interior would go great with that color! When I bought my silver '00, I actually did want that cypress green, just from the color sample in the sales brochure. When the sales guy showed me a minivan in that color though (no 'Treps on the lot in that color to show), I didn't like it. Looking back, now I don't know why, but for some reason at the time it just didn't appeal to me.

    It is amazing how fast the time goes by, though. It'll be 4 years in November that I've had mine. I cleaned it up real nice to take it up to the all-Mopar Nationals in Carlisle PA the other week, and aside from a few stone chips, and some minor damage to the front and rear fascia (they just don't make bumpers like they used to!), it looks almost new. Only real problem on the inside is that the steering wheel is starting to deteriorate around the 9 o'clock position. The dark gray material on the outside is rubbing off, exposing the foam underneath.

    ES, hope you have a safe trip. Let us know how the 'Trep does! I might be going to a family reunion in NC in a few weeks, and I have a feeling that I'm going to get talked into being the driver! At least this trip would only be about 5 hours, but with relatives on board, that can seem like an eternity!
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    butane blue color. Its attractive but still no match for steel blue. I think its a new color for 2004. I will also be making some rather long trips this summer, probably to New York State and maybe to Lake George. It will be real nice to drive the Trep.
  • I have an '01 SE not a hint of a problem with it, mine is Burgandy which is kind of rare and I love it, funny thing...at one time you wouldn't have caught me dead in any form of a red car!
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    Midnight blue is my favorite blue on the LH cars.
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    i always thought the bright platinum was a killer colour....i wish they'd have put it on the rams!
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    I waited an extra 5 months to purchase my 2000 Intrepid ES for two reasons....additional "debugging time" and the arrival of the Steel Blue. Hard to believe that I took delivery on Thanksgiving of 99' and I'm about to hit 70K. My Intrepid hasn't worn so well on the exterior. Most of the damage is due to excessive travel this past year--highway. I'm sure the winter hasn't helped matters, especially with the severity here in Northeast. Seems that a number of us are in the same general area--eastern Pennsylvania here.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,026
    I'm actually coming up to PA this Saturday! There's an antique car show in Macungie, which I think it about an hour from Philly? I've only been to it once, and that was coming from Harrisburg, so I can't remember exactly where it was in relation to Philly. It was east and seemed kinda north of H-burg, though.

    I'll probably hit the 83,000 mile mark on my 'Trep on that trip. It's weird to think that soon, this car is going to have more miles on it than my '79 New Yorker! (about 87K right now).

    About the only damage on mine is from stone chips. it's also creased just a little in the front fascia from where I rear-ended someone about 2-3 months after I bought the car. It also got whacked a few times in the parking lot, but nothing major. The silver paint shows no sign at all of fading. Considering that I park outside all the time, and don't wax it like I should, I'd say it's holding up pretty well!

    My only real complaint is that the exhaust system started looking really rusty pretty early on. I don't think it's getting any worse, but it just doesn't look too pretty when you get up under the car!
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    I think my Intrepid has a stainless steel exhaust system. At least this is what the brochure states. But I have my doubts, because some of the used ones I looked at looked kind of rusty (the pipe that goes from the muffler to the resonator). I am not sure if the 2000's had stainless steel pipes. Well, anyway, my TBirds exhaust system is still the original (1989) so I expect the Trep's system to last a long time. Or maybe Ford builds better cars?!
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    do these Treps really have a stainless steel exhaust system??????????
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Well....say hello when you make it to the car show--it's in my backyard. The front third of my hood and the front fascia assembly look a bit rough on my Trep. I even stopped using touch up because I couldn't keep up with the nicks, chips and scratches from flying debris. I have no doubt that it comes from winter travel and the excessive highway miles I'm accumulated in the past year. That's especially bothersome given that I had the hood repainted and the fascia replaced in Feb 2001 after a women was kind enough to run a stop sign and remove them for me.
        The lower black air dam was knocked free on a recent trip by a chunk of truck tire. Praise be to the wizards at Strauss Auto who always seem able to rivet it back in place. My rear fascia is also a bit scuffed--someone backed into me in a parking lot. If it weren't so costly I have the front and rear replaced. When I bought my Trep I did have them install the full front end "mask" (or bra depending on what you call it). But after a few curbs and driveways, the elastic bands were rubs through and broke. That would have helped despite the fact that it rubbed on the front fenders and left some superficial scratches.. The price we pay for a beautiful, low slung car I suppose..
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,026
    so how far are you from Macungie? Do you ever go to that car show? I forget the name of it...it's something German, like "Das Awchikt" or something like that.

    My lower black air dam came off, too. In the course of delivering pizzas, I hit a 'possum and a cat. Thankfully, both of them lived (I'm too much of an animal lover and actually kind of a wuss when it comes to that stuff. God help me if I ever had to kill my own food!). But the cat took my air dam almost all the way off.

    I drove around with it loose like that, but finally just pulled it off. I probably shouldn't have, as it probably alters the aerodynamics a bit, and might have some effect on the cooling system, but that was over 2 years ago, and doesn't seem to have caused any problems yet!
  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    Thanks for the heads up on the 7/70 warranty possibility. I called the toll free line, but our silver 2002 was put in service prior to the date the warranty was extended.
    My daughter has put a fuzzy blue steering wheel cover - odd to say the least, but she likes it. She also has a small purple dolphin hanging from the rear view mirror, a purple/blue blanket and pillows on the back seat.
    I want to get mud flaps on the car shortly, as I find this saves the lower body panels a lot of wear, and also am thinking of putting clear plastic shielding on the leading edge of the hood. Anyone have any experience with this?
    Andre - the 'cinnamon glaze' 01 Chrysler Intrepid keeps on flawlessly at about 41,000 miles. I have seen one or two other Intrepids here in the US branded as Chryslers, but not many.
    Cheers,
    Scott.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Like I said, it's in my backyard--I live in the Lehigh Valley. The car show is referred to as "Das Awksch Fest" from Pennsylvania German. Good food too....my brothers, father and I typically go for a few hours. Enjoy!
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    car show in PA. I live in NW Jersey so its probably not too far away. Is it just antiques or do they have classic cars (1970's) also.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,026
    Here's a website I just found for this car show: http://www.awkscht.com/ They also have this map: image

    It's open to all cars up through 1983. I guess it was up through 1982 last year. I do remember a good number of 70's cars there last year, but there were tons of 50's and 60's cars, and even a good turnout of 40's, 30's, and older. I kinda liked that, because it's getting to the point at the Carlisle shows that it's all mostly just musclecars, and then the car corral is mainly overpriced junk. Now musclecars are cool and all, but I always like to see a wide variety of old cars.

    My first time going was last year, but I want to try to make it a yearly thing. If you can make it, Mike, I highly recommend it!

    Oh yeah, Jason, thanks for the correct spelling! I just noticed that if you pronounced it the way I typed it, your mother might wash your mouth out with soap!
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    that map was really cool. You must know something about HTML and web design. However, I thought I read somewhere that pictures were not allowed on Edmunds.com. I am not positively sure though. Well, anyway, are you definitely going to the show. I think it would be really neat to meet some of the car nuts that post on Edmunds. By the way, where are you coming from.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,026
    it's not hard to post a picture. To post a pic, you just use this format: (img src="http://url_of_picture_you_want_to_post.com") But use < and > instead of ( and ). I used parentheses so that the actual wording would show up...otherwise it would try to post that bogus url I typed in.

    Yeah, I'm definitely going. I live in Crofton MD, which is near Annapolis, but I'm driving up to Grbeck's place Friday nite. He lives near Harrisburg. We'll be coming out from that direction. I guess he's about an hour and a half from Macungie. We'd be coming out I-78 East. That'd be cool if you want to try and meet up. It's a big place though, so it might be kind of hard to coordinate. I guess we could exchange cell phone #'s or something. My email is jgandrew@hotmail.com, if you want to contact me. You too, Jason5...let me know if you want to try a get-together on Saturday!
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