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Dodge Intrepid

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,897
    as for posting pictures, I've done it a few times before. I think there are certain restrictions, like no nudity. And before you laugh, I did have a pic yanked off once, that I posted of a '77 New Yorker. This one just happened to have three women in scanty bathing suits posed across the back of it, like they were trying to push it. It didn't go over too well with the hosts. Honestly, I was just trying to show someone that Chrysler still had flip-out vent windows in the doors by that time. Really I was! ;-)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Posting pics ... the most important rule is that you do not display pictures that someone else has copyrighted. I'm quite sure that the New Yorker would copyright its content whether it was a picture of "women in scanty bathing suits" or a picture of the flip out vent windows. (Yah, yah, yah andre!! ;-))

    It's okay to *link* to pictures on public websites, just don't use the img src tags to actually display them in your message unless you own the copyright or are able to positively ascertain that they are in the public domain.

    And I suppose the second most important rule is that the picture be topical. PRIMARILY topical, not somewhat topical in the background. If you get my drift.

    :D
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    what do you mean 'in the public domain'. Suppose I wanted to post a pic of an Intrepid from Dodge's website. Would this be OK.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,897
    I'll have to post some of the pictures I took at the Carlisle all-Mopar Nationals. There must've been a good 30-40 or more LH cars, ranging from bone stock to wildly modified. Most of the pics I took were of older, classic cars (got a few of the new Magnum wagon though!), but I snapped off a few of the LH cars.

    It was actually pretty inspiring, seeing how much people can get into their Intrepids, Concordes, and such. At the GM and Ford Nationals, you don't see people flaunting their Tauruses and FWD Impalas! (Impala SSes and classic Impalas, that's a different story!)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    The safest thing to do if you do not own the picture yourself is to just post a link to it.

    You are free to display pictures from edmunds.com here in the Town Hall (but not elsewhere on the web), but otherwise just post a link.
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Gentlemen....any other day but Saturday! I appreciate the offer, but I have a birthday party on Saturday with 10, 7 year olds. I would, however, be interested in considering other meetings. For instance I usually go to the NY Auto Show and Philadelphia show. The winter, I'm hoping to finally get to NAIAS in Detroit. Any takers?
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    Cleaned the 'Trep inside last night (vacuuming and treatment of the leather and vinyl), checked the fluid levels, air pressures. Heading out for what I hope is about 2500 uneventful miles over about 10 or 11 days. Up to Delaware through and over the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, stop overnight, then on to NY City for the weekend, then over to western PA on Monday, if all goes well. 66,000 miles now, but will be nearing 70,000 soon. The 'Trep still seems like a new car to me, but now I realize it is 4 and a half years since I picked it up.

    That steel blue is a nice color, unavailable in 1999 when I ordered this Champagne one. I tried to get the cypress green, but then it was only available with the dark grey interior, and I wanted the saddle tan. So ours is champagne with tan leather inside. The outside sure doesn't show much dirt.

    I have had light colored cars for 20 years, but darker ones seem to be catching on. The whites and yellows are said to be more visible but sometimes the dark ones look so good when they are clean. They sure have cut down on the options as far as doors, paint, and interior colors over the years. All money saving for the manufacturers.

    Keep safe out there.

    ES 99
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    I am back from 2100 miles of travelling up and down the East Coast. The 'Trep did great, and comes back with new front brake pads, turned rotors, and two new tires. All of that was expected work down at my brother's shop. I saw lots of other 'Treps on the way through SC, NC, VA, MD, DE, NJ, NY, PA, and WV. None was stranded on the side of the road.
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    woah!!! smithed you have me totally baffled! both your leaving and returning vacation messages are dated today (august 4th). i don't get it...? did you travel 2100 miles in several hours...? what up...
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    Yes, I have to agree, that was an incredibly quick trip. I remember reading the exact same leaving message days ago. I am not sure how the two messages had the same 8/4/03 date. I suspect it has something to do with the 'bookmark' option.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,897
    He's off and flyin' as he guns his car around the track...
    He's jammin' down the pedal like he's never comin' back...
    Adventure's waitin' just a-HEEEEAAAADDD!!
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    obviously, my driving the 'Trep is better than my computer skills. I don't know how that message reposted, but it sure makes me look fast. Actually we left 7/24 and returned 8/2.

    ES
  • Jason5Jason5 Posts: 440
    Hmmm... And I thought I was the only one who had those lyrics committed to memory. Did you also tape capital letters to the handlebars of your bike?
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,897
    I never quite went that far, although once I did try to build a replica of the Mammoth Car out of Legos! Well, the front part, at least. I probably would have needed several sets to build the whole thing!

    Oh yeah, did you end up making it to the Macungie car show? We did, and had a great time, although now I have a little too much of a "farmer tan" from wearing a tank-top to the show!
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    going in for warranty repairs Monday. The CD player cant even play one song without screwing up. I thought it was my CD's but after trying other CD's I realized the CD player never worked right from the time the car was new. Also, the power front seat does not go up, it just tilts backwards. I finally realized this too is a defect. I hope things don't continue to break, especially after the warranty period is up.
  • stumack1stumack1 Posts: 56
    an '04 SXT last week (I'm shopping right now) and wasn't prepared to like this car as much as I did. I love the styling of these cars (possibly the best looking 4-door ever built - anywhere) but I was really impressed with the driving experience. - smooth, quiet, and the car seemed well put together. I'm almost ready to lay my money down. I've still got hestitations about longer term reliability (a couple of bad Chrysler experiences in the past) but the car is Consumers Reports recommended, a Consumer Guide best buy and highly rated by AAA. What do you all think, just do it??

    Andre...I was really surprised by the interest in the late model cars at Carlisle also...lots of LH cars, but the PT customizing that's going on is just incredible.
  • sdradioguysdradioguy Posts: 101
    My mother has a 1995 3.3L with somewhere between 95K and 100K on it. She told me this morning the "check engine" light came on after some brisk driving (she had just bought a bag of ice, and had to hurry home). I'm under the impression this "brisk driving" was a mix of some freeway and main arterial streets -- taking corners and on/off ramps as fast as she could. She wasn't sure exactly when the light came on, but the trip didn't last longer than 10 minutes. She just noticed it as she was at the end of her trip.

    This was about 4-5 days ago, and she says the check engine light hasn't come on since. She's wondering if this is something she should go to the dealer with, especially given its age and mileage. They've had no MAJOR mechanical problems with it, but the power steering pump has been replaced 4 times (I think all of those were done under warranty), and the A/C is not quite able to keep up with summer heat in TX (which has been the case from the time my parents bought it new).

    So, what do I tell her? Spend the diagnostic bucks at the dealer or some other mechanic now, or just wait for the light to come on again? She's restoring a house 200 miles from her home base and my step-dad, and she's keeping a tight lid on the amount of time she spends in the car until she gets a better idea of what exactly is going on (she has this thing about getting stranded.. Well, I guess we all do).

    Okay, that's it. Advise, please.
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    The SXT is real tempting. Its a nice car, but I still question Chryslers quality control. My SE has about 5500 miles on it since I bought it brand new, and the ABS controller, CD player and power drivers seat all failed. And I take care of it as if it were a Rolls Royce. All these things were bad right off the production line. In addition, I test drove a new 03 SXT at Reedman in Langhorne PA last winter and the speedometer did not work. I came real close to buying a used SXT with 7752 miles on it, but it did not have ABS. However, the price was right. It was the only used Intrepid I looked at that was not a previous rental car. Although COnsumer Reports seemed to like it, they still questioned its long term reliability. I guess I am not a diehard Mopar fan, as this is my first Chrysler experience. And depending on how well this car holds up in the future, it could be my last.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,897
    unfortunately, that doesn't narrow it down one bit as to what could potentially be wrong with the car. Usually, it's something emissions-related, like a valve or sensor going bad. But then my roommate had the check engine light come on (non-Mopar car, a '98 Tracker) because of a bad torque convertor solenoid! When you got to the speed that it was supposed to lock up, it wouldn't, and sent a signal to turn on the check engine light.

    My grandfather has a '94 Taurus, and it's had an intermittent check engine light for a few years now. I wish he'd get the damn thing looked at, but it hasn't left him stranded yet! My guess is that, as long as the car's fluids are all topped off, and nothing's overheating, and the car doesn't act any different when the light comes on, then it's probably nothing too major.

    I think I'd get it checked out though, just to find out what it is!
  • sdradioguysdradioguy Posts: 101
    Yeah, that's the problem with check engine lights, they're too damned vague. Like you said, it could be anything -- and not necessarily related to the engine itself. And yes, it could just be one of those intermittent things that never signals a real problem. I'll have her get it checked.
  • stumack1stumack1 Posts: 56
    ...that is exactly the type of thing I am worried about, and why I have been more loyal to GM in the past. But I am coming off a lease on an '00 Jimmy that has been an absolute piece of garbage, and my significant other has an '00 Grand Am, that while it is a nice car to drive started to nickle and dime at about 70,000 km - several others at work are having the exact same issues with GA's. I test drove an '04 GP this week that was an utter disappointment - cheap materials, poor assembly and rattles on a unit with only 3000km. I would more likely end up with an Intrepid ES (rather than an SXT - just due to local availabilty) - it really is a much better built car than the GP. I have a close friend here at work with an '01 Dakota Quad that is nice and solid and basically trouble free. Did 1600km to Carlisle and back last month and I was impressed with it.
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    The interior materials of the Intrepid are not the greatest either. And I am talking about all models. If you are talking about the 'leather' seats in an ES, well only the seating surfaces are leather, all the rest is vinyl. I think the cloth seats look much better, at least in dark gray. I looked at an ES with dark gray 'leather' seats and was disappointed. Actually, the seats are the best part of the interior in my SE. The lower part of the door panels is cheap plastic and Chrysler did away with the cloth insert along the top part. As far as I know, the door panels are same regardless of model. And the used '02 SXT had 'industrial grade' cloth seats, which actually felt more like plastic than cloth. The '03 SXT's were changed to different cloth seats.Probably because no one liked the 'plastic' material. But I paid 16,900 for my SE with the 'D' package and ABS. It was a leftover '02. So the price was right. At one point I was considering a used Lincoln Town car which was much better built. But did not think I could afford the gas.There's a reason why all the limo companies use Lincolns, and that is they can easily go 200,000 miles.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,897
    ...count how many things have been de-contented on the Intrepid! (okay, only if it's a very boring party or a party populated by car nuts!)

    Lessee, comparing the base '00 model to the current SE, here's what I come up with:

    1) No rear sway bar on the new model
    2) No tint on the windows
    3) Cruise control now optional
    4) Vinyl in place of cloth on the door panels
    5) No carpet on the lower door sills

    Anything else we can add to that list? Just out of curiosity, is there anything that's been ADDED to the SE as standard, over the '00?

    I am disappointed that Chrysler saw fit to de-content the Intrepid, but I still think it's one of the best values in its class. I'd still take one over an Impala, Taurus, or Camry. I admit to having a soft spot for the Altima, although I don't think it's any better-built. And I like the new Accord too...everything but its looks!
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,897
    has anyone tried changing the serpentine belts in their Intrepid themselves? I was just wondering how hard it is to do nowadays? Anyone? Bueller? Ottowrkr? You put 'em on in the first place, so I figure maybe you'd know how to replace 'em!
  • mdeymdey Posts: 90
    After 48k I had to spring for new tires. The OE Goodyears had just under 4/32 of tread left, but my wife nailed a curb hard enough to cut through the steel belt on the sidewall of the right front, and I didn't feel good about leaving that one on anymore. Besides, the tires were just noisy, and have been since the first day.

    I bought a slightly less agressive set of BF Goodrich Touring T/As from Sam's ($377 US and out the door in 45 minutes). The center of the tread pattern is similar to the Goodyears, but the pattern at the outside of the the tire surface is tighter than the Goodyears, and cut at an angle. Much quieter (in fact, no noise at all) and still close enough to OE design that it shouldn't affect the handling of the car.

    At 48k, the only issue we had to have addressed on the car was an eratic idle. The dealer reprogrammed the computer based on a TSB and problem solved. I can't seem to keep the rear brake rotors true, but I suspect that is a driver problem. I am also still miffed that ABS is optional.

    Has anyone replaced the unvented rear rotors with vented rotors? Can that be done and keep the OE calipers?
  • stumack1stumack1 Posts: 56
    ...the sway bar, tint and cruise are all still standard in Canada on the SE. 16" wheels and CD player were added for '02, and fog lights and keyless remote were added as standard for '04. You're right, it's still the best value of the bunch. A co-worker was surprised that an '04 ES with leather, sunroof, chrome wheels, 234 hp engine etc. can be purchased here for the same price as a 4-cyl. Camry SE with nothing but alloy wheels. The Camry is a nice car, but certainly not a "value".

    Mike...everyone is describing their leather as "leather-trimmed" or "leather-faced" now...I think someone got called down on the fact that the bulk of the interiors were really vinyl but were being marketed as leather.
  • sdradioguysdradioguy Posts: 101
    Well, before I could get back in touch with my mom, she took it to one of the Dodge dealers in Austin, TX, and had them look at it. Turns out it had a bad O2 sensor, so that explains why she thought she smelled unburned gas from time-to-time. The sensor was replaced for somewhere around $225, and she's back on the road.
  • smithedsmithed Posts: 444
    I blew out the inside the door speaker with too much loud base. I removed it yesterday, took off the close covering and glued the fiber part of the speaker back onto its circumferential mounting. Now it sounds great, and I will keep the volume down.

    Mdey, that's great mileage from those OE tires. Mine only lasted to about 34,000 and boy were they noisy. Much better with the Cooper Touring Lifeliners on there now.

    About the brake rotors, I don't know, but am interested in why you are thinking about those rear vented rotors.

    ES
  • mike372mike372 Posts: 354
    body side moldings were deleted as standard on the '03 and '04 SE's. However, 'solar control' glass is still standard, but 'all' windows are not solar control glass. I am not sure if its the front and back windows or the side windows. I have to check it out further. Actually, I was at my local Dodge dealer today, and while waiting for service, I took a look at the 04's in stock. It looks like the aluminum wheels (optional on hte SE) are now the same as those available on the SXT. They look slightly better and are 'machined' not cast aluminum wheels. But the rear sway bar is definitely missing. And on the SXT they had in stock, the hood and right front fender were so misaligned it looked as if the car had been in an accident. I mean really poor quality control. This is inexcusable in todays cars. If you look at my parents new Camry with a magnifying glass, all the panels fit perfectly. This is where Detroit is still lacking it seems. I think the new Accord is a real good looking car. And it has quality thats second to none.
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    mike372,

    the accord is a good car but not free of problems. i currently have an '03 ex v6 coupe and it's had some issues. nothing major mind you but still irritating. here is the list.

    1. rear shelf that rattled
    2. various/intermittent rattles around sunroof and dash.
    3. engine that sometimes cranks for a long time before starting - prolly a fuel pressure regulator problem.
    4. door trim that become deformed from the sun presumably.

    i will say that the accord does have excellent fit of panels inside and out. but it ain't perfect...!
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