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Nissan Sentra 2006 and earlier

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  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    My apologies in advance, but I cannot answer the specific question emphatically. However, current aftermarket cruise control systems won't work with drive-by-wire fuel systems because the throttlebody doesn't have the conventional linkage set-up. The throttle is opened by a motor and has no direct connection to the accelerator pedal. There would be no mechanicals to attach the cruise control servo to.

    But, Nissan I'm sure builds a cruise control for that engine. In most contemporary designs the main engine computer now controls the cruise control functions. In the drive-by-wire systems I'm familiar with, instead of a vacuum operated servo to move the throttlebody linkage, the engine computer sends a direct signal to the throttle motor.

    It probably could be done, but the engine computer may be different, the cruise control switch and associated wiring may be missing since it wasn't originally built with cruise control.

    Whether this could be resolved by your dealer is still another question. I know it shouldn't be this way, but the degree of skill and talent may be missing in order to accomplish this satisfactorily.

    Now, Nissan may make their own after sale version of cruise control, in which case it likely is very do able.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • Check your owner's manual. I have a 2003 Focus and it says to not calculate mpg for the first 3,000 miles. Well, I did and it ran 22+ v/s 25-30. It wasn't until after 4k that the mileage increased to 25mpg. The car is not driven hard at all. You probably will get better mileage as the miles pile up. How did your previous car's mpg compare to it's EPA? Do you drive for economy or for "fun"?
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    I have a '03 GXE and am still unhappy with the mileage at the 7k mile mark. Am lucky if I get 25 in all city driving, stop and go. Not as good as the 2 previous Corollas that I owned. But, the ride is so much better than the Corolla and the brakes are excellent.
    I guess there are some trade offs with all these cars. Am going to call the dealer on monday to find out about 3 safety recalls that MSN notified me about.

    The Sandman :-)
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    My '93 Sentra (GA16 motor) at 116,000 miles was giving me 23-25 mpg with a 1.6 miles work commute and lots of around town driving. It was never as good on the highway as my wife's '89 Plymouth Acclaim with the 2.5 engine, believe it or not. Of course, one day I noticed the vehicle weight on my registration and despite being a much smaller car than her Plymouth, it was only 170 ounds lighter.

    I loved my Sentra. I don't know how the new ones are, but I've looked at the interiors and they sure are a lot more pleasing than my '93.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    25MPG in all-city isnt THAT bad.... the EPA city cycle, if you read up on it, is pretty unrealistic (and part of the reason why the hybrid Toyota Prius gets a higher MPG for city rating than its highway rating- speeds are low enough such that the gasoline motor rarely activates). For example, if you look at the Consumer Reports "City" data, which represents a much more extensive test loop than that used by the EPA.... it is almost ALWAYS a good deal lower than the EPA figure. In any case, MPGs should come up a bit after the first servicing at 3750 miles.

    Ampa- In which region are you located. Sentra 2.5S models are much fewer in selection compared to the 1.8S here in central Jersey, but there are still several around. A good bet may be to email the dealers, via Nissan's corporate website that you visited, and ask them when/if the Sentra 2.5S will be allocated to your region. If they feel you are seriously interested, they may offer to do a dealer swap, help in your out of region search, or "order" the vehicle for you.

    ~alpha
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Sandman- for reference, Consumer Reports tested the Sentra 1.8L engine(with auto trans) at 18 city and 36 highway on their test loop. They put overall fuel economy at 26 MPG.

    For reference, the current Civic EX 1.7L (127hp) auto and Corolla 1.8L (130hp) auto both returned 29 MPG overall on the Consumer Reports test loop, and are at the top of the mainstream small sedans for MPG, of the cars CR has tested.

    ~alpha
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Thanks for putting this all in context for me. Having owned 2 previous Corolla's with the auto tranny, the mileage seemed to be much better than my auto GXE.
    I still think the GXE rides a whole lot better, but it could be because of the 15" wheels. And the brakes are far superior also.

    The Sandman :-)
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    "Sentra 2.5s In Stock ANYWHERE?"

    Dealers prefer to push the higher profit Alimtas, so they don't order the Sentra 2.5s. :(

    I only seen 7-8 in the Chicago area listed in Nissan's website inventory lookup.
  • You all having given me some great info. I just want to say thanks for the time you all spend helping out others with all types of questions. I really like the Nissan Sentra 2004, just very unhappy with the MPG. We have had the 2000 Altima, 2001 Frontier, 2002 Xterra and the 2004 Sentra is the only one I have had any issues with.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Our Altima is not as fuel efficient as the 2 previous Camrys that we had. I really think Toyota does a better job with squeezing out top mileage from their engines in most of their model lineup. We've just had to change our mindset and not think about the little things that bother us and just enjoy the overall Nissan experience.
    Now that we've done Toyotas and Nissans, our sites will be set upon Hondas with the next go round of new vehicles come 2006.

    The Sandman :-)
  • Thanks to all who responded. It's an automatic, and the dealer doesn't install aftermarket. My nephew (a mechanic) says he doesn't know of aftermarket cruise for drive-by-wire, because with drive-by-wire, there is no throttle cable to make conventional cruise work.
         I find it unbelievable a major car manufacturer would make a car without cruise that cruise can't be added to! I thought it odd the car had all other options, but no cruise, even got a price from an aftermarket place (for a 2004 Sentra) before we bought. But when we called to schedule install they said "2004 Sentra? No can do."
         Looks like a good entrepreneur opportunity, but not if computer has to be replaced! Surely it would have been smarter of Nissan to include this popular option on all models? Or at least disclose it can't be done. Kinda sours our "Nissan new car" experience!
         Good luck Steven, I hope you find a different answer.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I dont really feel that cruise control is a make or break feature for most of the Sentra's target market. If you think about it, it wasnt really even a make or break feature for you, since you still bought the car, despite its lack of cruise control. That said, Cruise Control is available on the 1.8S in the "Road Trip Package", which most of the 1.8S automatics in my area have. Best of luck in finding a solution to your quest, and please continue to post on this thread with updates on the performance of your car even if you dont (find a solution)!!

    ~alpha
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    I got this on my '03 GXE and am quite pleased, especially with the stereo/cd...it really rocks!
    Like the tail lights and the new steering wheel on the '04 1.8s, but one can't have it all.
    Got stopped by a cop on the way home, had the stereo cranked and never saw him as I flew through a yellow light. He let me off with a warning, he said he clocked me at 59 in a 45 zone...this car can really move!

    The Sandman :-)
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Maybe your lead food is hurting your fuel economy!! (Just a little light hearted joking).

    Question- How is the 04 steering wheel different? More noteworthy improvements, IMO, are the better quality, more attractive seat fabrics and slightly revised stereo controls. I personally prefer amber turn signals, feel they are safer- not an issue that would prevent me from a purchase, but something I do notice.

    ~alpha
  • Well all, my schedule is on for getting the cruise control added...I'll let you know if and when it's done and the result thereof. Hey Sandman, I know you were joking about the fuel economy with lack of cruise control but the truth is that Cruise control can hurt miles/gallon since it kicks into a lower gear (higher RPMS) when going up a hill to keep the same speed whereas when we manually ease off the gas and allow a little loss in speed, we keep the RPMs down which saves fuel. Ask those "Prius" people that have that "miles per gallon" meter in their dash! :)

    This all said, here is a current rundown of my miles per gallon:
    Odometer Miles per gallon
         718 34.98
         935 23.94
        1133 25.98
        1448 29.77

    This is with about 70% highway miles. My commute is 55 miles one-way.

    Steven.
  • pghmaxpghmax Posts: 7
    I have a 2002 GXE and will be replacing the front pads shortly. Anyone out there done this and if so what brand pads have you used excluding Nissan pads. What auto parts stores have you purchased them from? The reason I ask is I had problems putting NAPA pads on my 99 Altima. They were very loud and I had to purchase the Nissan pads and put those on.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Pittsburgh? Good city.

    In any case, stick with the Nissan OEM pads. Purchasing other pads for Honda/Toyota/Nissan will result in situations exactly as you describe. Of the course of hundreds of thousands of miles in Toyotas, any time the front pads were replaced with non-Toyota parts, squealing and/or squeaking resulted. It was very annoying and had nothing to do with the quality of the "job" that was done, rather, we were told by Toyota mechs., it was the non-Toyota spec pads. It may cost more to use Nissan pads on your Sentra, but it will be worth it.

    ~alpha
  • ...is being added today....I'll update you all tomorrow....

    Steven.
  • Hello all, well, the cruise control has been added as an after-market part and IT WORKS!!! If any of you want the big secret on how on earth it was done, please call Hals Auto Body at 916-485-9215. If you read my story above, I complained to the dealer that I needed it added. They did a good job and the dealer paid for it. They did not add it to the steering wheel and connect the "cruise" light sensor that is on the dash, but as a lever behind the lights lever on the steering column area.

    If any of you call the number, I would be curious how it was done....please share the info on this board.

    YAHOO!!! Also, I am about 2400 miles on my ODO reading and I am consistently still getting 26-27 miles per gallon.....can't wait to do my first oil change....

    Steven.
  • This makes the Sentra among the least expensive new small sedans to buy. Question: will the current Sentra body style be continued in Model Year '05?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    If it does continue into the 2005 model year, it will likely be a short run, with the new model bowing for the 2006 MY in early calendar 2005(think March/April).

    The current Sentra was intro-ed in Spring 2000 as a 2000 model, so according to typical Nissan design cycles (5 MYs), the 2004 should be the last, or damned close, and hence, my assumptions above.

    Hope this helps.
    ~alpha

    If you like power and safety features, the Sentra 2.5S is one of the best cars out there- 7.9 seconds to 60, and one of only a handful of small cars that offers side airbags to protect BOTH head and chest. The only drawbacks to this car are the middling EPA figures, the too-small back seat, and the effect that the rebates will have on resale value.
  • Early calendar year 2005 sounds good. I remember the current Maxima came out in the spring. What, if anything, do we know about the redesign?
  • Hey everybody, anybody who has this type vehicle should be posting about their experiences! Or have people migrated elsewhere once a problem is resolved???? So far, I am getting close to 3,500 miles on the ODO and the m/g is now a consistent 27-28. My excitement over the cruise control has tempered....I am taking it in again to get it fixed or adjusted....it works but not over 60 mph which is not good when I am on a 65 mph highway. Also the cruise control will keep the same RPM's but NOT the same MPH when going up or down hills....not good for my purposes. It's going into the shop tomorrow. All expenses paid by the dealer that I bought the car from. I'll keep you updated...if there is interest.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Why are all expenses going to be paid by the dealer where you got the car from, despite the fact, that, if I remember correctly, it is a non-Nissan aftermarket system which you are using? I am also perplexed as to why, since cruise is seemingly the most important aspect of the vehicle, you didnt just spring for the Road Trip package? It seems as though the cost of this package would have more than made up for itself in terms of search costs, the money value of lost time, etc....

    ~alpha
  • "The current Sentra was intro-ed in Spring 2000 as a 2000 model, so according to typical Nissan design cycles (5 MYs), the 2004 should be the last, or damned close, and hence, my assumptions above."

    Well, if the new one is coming in spring 2005 it will have to be called a 2005.5 or 2006. They can't stretch the 2004 MY into 2005. Also, they need Sentra's MPG/CAFE credits for the 2005 MY. So that means the 2005 Sentra will be carry over, making it officially a 6 model year car, something rare for them.
  • HI.,
    I am in the market for a new sentra 1.8S with road trip package ( cruise+7 speaker system+ mats)

    The dealer is asking $12.9K ( this inclused 2500.00 cash rebate from nissan).....
    Did any one pay a lesser price than this?
    I am in detroit....
    Thanks,
    Sandeep
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    tomcat630- "Well, if the new one is coming in spring 2005 it will have to be called a 2005.5 or 2006."

    Perhaps thats the case, but I dont think its necessarily so. The current Sentra was introduced in February 2000 as a 2000 MY model, not a 2000.5, or a 2001. Indeed, Nissan just released pricing and model year designations for the 2004 Infiniti M45 and Q45 at the end of January. Until that point, all models were still 2003s.

    ~alpha
  • Hey Sandeep, jump on it. I wish I would have had your opportunity. I paid 13k without the roadtrip package...I didn't know I could.

    Steven
  • Hi steven,
    I am talking to 2 dealers actually and the price now just went to 12.7K out the door with the road trip package....Also( and separately) they are willing to give me extended 100k/5yr nissan warranty for
    $1200.00 out the door...is this price for warranty reasonable?
  • Probably today I'll buy the new 2004 red sentra 1.8S with road trip package and maybe the extended warranty..
    Anyone please let me know if they have paid a lower price than this:
    Car price, out the door(including tax title doc dest plate etcetc): 12.7K
    Nissan Warranty 100k/5yr: 1.0K

    thanks,.... Sandeep
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