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Afraid Camry Owner - Toyota found to keep tight lid on potential safety

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  • I'm also watching this "Trouble with Toyotas" as a buying opportunity....

    I prefer manual transmissions and it as occurred to me that a good old-fashioned clutch pedal pretty much cancels out any accelerator problem without adding modifications.....

    I'm sure this thought has probably occurred with others....
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,356
    How will you buy one when they have a "stop sale" on them.

    With a manual a person could simply step on the clutch if the gas pedel stuck but would they think to do that? Just like simply shutting off the ignition.
  • revitrevit Posts: 476
    This all comes down to Toyota compromised on quality control in an overzealous drive to cut costs and expand sales during its climb to the top of the world auto market.

    It will be interested to see if Toyota follows through as the company they claim to be: Issue a buyback for ALL effected vehicles and offer either a refund or comparable; otherwise, it will go to prove Toyota really is no different than Ford, GM, Honda, or Nissan...including their perceived level of quality.

    An unfortunate lesson learned...Shame on Toyota!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    All of this conversation belongs in the topic linked in the header of this discussion. Please click on the link and continue there.

    Meanwhile we can continue talking about safety issues as they relate specifically to the Camry here.
  • millwood0millwood0 Posts: 451
    "I'm also watching this "Trouble with Toyotas" as a buying opportunity.... "

    that's smart. people usually overreact to good news and bad news.
  • revitrevit Posts: 476
    I sure hope Toyota does the right thing and offers us Toyota owners the option of them buying back our vehicles...I have nothing more now than a lemon :lemon:
  • millwood0millwood0 Posts: 451
    "I have nothing more now than a lemon"

    it depends on what you define as a lemon.
  • millwood0millwood0 Posts: 451
    "This all comes down to Toyota compromised on quality control in an overzealous drive to cut costs and expand sales during its climb to the top of the world auto market."

    you know that because?
  • millwood0millwood0 Posts: 451
    I think this is the bottom line: things do break from time to time and mistakes are made from time to time, even by reputable OEMs and in spite of their best intention.

    and risks come with life and with asset ownership. the only way not to take risks is not to own anything and not to live.

    do this math: of those millions of vehicles subject to the recall, how many of them have reported "sudden acceleration"? at that kind of odds, you can win many lotteries easily.
  • johngf1johngf1 Posts: 37
    This is just another example of Toyo not doing the right thing! I own a 2007 Camry LE and had problems for the first 8 months until I read about the "hesitation " problem for selected/ early Camrys. They knew the Vin numbers affected but didn't inform owners of the problem. Fortunately, Edmund's Forums possible saved my life since the software fix made a material difference and eliminate the hesitation.

    Next the cover up and lack of action for the floor mat problems. They knew of the problem but waited months until sending notices to Camry owners. The FIX still hasn't been implemented.

    This is the final straw for me - This runaway issue is potentially too dangerous for me and I don't feel like waiting months for Toyota's solution.

    TOYOTA - FORGET ABOUT JD POWER RATINGS ! STOP DRAGGING YOUR FEET AND DO THE RIGHT THING. Correct ASAP - SOONER NOT LATER. BTW - I DON'T really think Toyota is "voluntarily" recalling these vehicles! Do you?
  • millwood0millwood0 Posts: 451
    "This runaway issue is potentially too dangerous for me and I don't feel like waiting months for Toyota's solution. "

    then dump your Toyota. that's where you can really hit back at them.
  • revitrevit Posts: 476
    Try telling that to the families who have died because of this and the hundreds that have been injured.

    Point is Toyota built itself on its so called Quality which is why I bought my current Camry. Now for all of this to unfold says alot about Toyota. They did everything possible to avoid this and cover it up until the news finally broke.

    The sad thing is, even with the loss of all the people from associated accidents, Toyota would had continued to deny there was a problem to save their image.

    Sorry, but all I can say is SHAME ON TOYOTA! You let not only me down, but all the Toyota owners who bought into believing Toyota quality was 2nd to none. Instead of trying to become the biggest automaker, they should have focused on being the best.

    Maybe they need to go back to the drawing board and review the commercials they tried to get the consumer to buy into.

    Toyota Welcome Home TV Commercial

    or maybe they need to reintroduce the 1990 Toyota Camry
  • "How will you buy one when they have a "stop sale" on them."

    I'm very sure that will be temporary. Unfortunately after Toyota announces "OK - All is well", consumers will still be gun-shy.

    As for your other point - still not being able to disable the Camry or other vehicle - I'm done with that argument - you either believe the car has some sort of propensity to be a "Christine-like" killing machine or a reasonable vehicle that has unfortunately had accelerator hick-ups that need to be addressed and nothing more. Pick your poison and move on.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Most of the Toyota's involved are FWD or F/awd and those, even disregarding the current situation, are dangerous enough already, let alone putting in a manual transmission that would get most of today's buying public in deep do-do.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Turning off the ignition...

    And LOCK the stearing wheel..??
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,356
    It won't lock unless it gets turned all of the way over I don't think.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,356
    Where do you come up with those numbers? " Hundreds"? Where are you getting this?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "...material difference.."

    Yes.

    "..eliminate the hesitation.."

    No.

    The 1-2 second downshift delay/hesitation is still in there, just cloaked to virtual invisibility with the latest firmware "patch".
  • "You let not only me down, but all the Toyota owners who bought into believing Toyota quality was 2nd to none."

    Please don't include me in your tirades. This is life; stuff happens; mechanical stuff breaks; you fix it. Nothing is perfect. Anyway, that's my experience during 50 years of driving a wide variety of makes and models.

    John
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "..I don't think.."

    Exactly, I'd have to look it up to really know. But absent really knowing, for sure, wouldn't most of us hesitate using the key to switch off the engine..??

    And what about the PB start/stop, when does that lock the stearing wheel..?
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