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Older Acura TLs



  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Yes, yes, yes...the RL is the car Acura needed to replace for 04, not the TL. Everyone that likes cars wants to see a rwd model with a V8 in addition to the V6, but Honda has all but said no to V8s and rwd. So the current speculation is some type of awd V6 with hybrid tech for 300-400hp. The next RL is probably the best kept secret in the business.

    I do hope that if Acura does increase hp on the TL (270 or more) that awd will be part of the program. That kind of hp is simply too much on the front wheels. Cadillac spent 10+ years trying to perfect it only having to switch back rwd.

  • billyperksbillyperks Posts: 449
    Ha ha ha- the Pearl White is as masculine as you can get.
    I think the gold is more on the feminine side- no offense to the male owners.
  • els159els159 Posts: 2
    My SRS light is on all the time. Dealer has suggested that putting a cell phone on passenger seat may have caused the module to malfunction. Has anyone else heard of this problem. Does anyone know if the safety of the vehicle has been compromised.
  • scott31scott31 Posts: 280
    Um, if your SRS light is on all the time, get the dealer to fix it ASAP.
  • dulnevdulnev Posts: 652
    I wanted to share my feelings about the initial quality of my 2003 TL-S. "Initial" here does not refer to the day I got it fromt the dealer, but the period of the first 5,000 miles. Why 5,000 miles you ask? It's purely arbitrary.

    I bought my TL-S on January 2nd of this year and have crossed 5,000 miles last week. I am comparing this car to my previous car: a 2000 3.2TL. The 2000 TL was well known for a variety of little problems that would develop around the first 1,300-1,800 miles: creaks, squeaks and rattles (this is based on numerous reports in Acura discussion boards). While not major problems, these issues can dramatically dampen one's satisfaction with their new car. My car developed 3 of these problems, two of which were never fixed.

    Now enter the 2003 TL-S. The car is still ROCK-SOLID after the first 5,000 miles. Not a squeak, creak or rattle from anywhere. This is very encouraging, especially given the relatively terrible road conditions in the DC area this winter/spring. The tremendous record-setting amount of snow and rain that has been dumped on this region in the last 6 months has created an unusually high number of potholes and other problems. I've hit a number of potholes in the last 6 months, some very hard. Yet, the car has held up beautifully.

    What this tells me is that in the last 3-4 years since the introduction of the current model of TL, Acura has done a great job in debugging the car.

    What has your experience with recently made 2003's been like?
  • pdfspdfs Posts: 19

    I found some very strange noise from my 02 TL. When the car is parked in garage, a low pitch whistling noise comes from under the car every ~15 min. Does anyone have the similar problem?
  • billyperksbillyperks Posts: 449
    Dulnev we purchased our car around the same time and our mileage is exactly the same- I just passed the 5000 mark.

    As far as quality, I have two problems already-
    The sunroof rattles, dealer took care of this in no time.
    The second problem - the plastic covering by the seat belt adjuster is stripping off.I showed my service manager and he bluntly stated that their not going to fix that because it is my fault the plastic is stripping off.

    He claims that whenever I unbuckle my seat belt I allow the metal to hit the plastic hence the stripping occurs.

    I told him is comments are out right absurd. The plastic in my wife's Camry is not stripping, the plastic in my Millenia did not strip so why a $30,000.00 car plastic is striping.

    To cut a long story short I took the car to another dealership and they fixed it without a whisper.

    I am going to call Acura and file a complaint against this Dealership, also the owner of the Dealership is going to hear about this.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    Recently I attended a Saturday SUV event hsoted by Lexus. They had most of the current luxury SUVs available for test drive. I bring this up because the MDX had the same problem you mentioned on your TL. The plastic covering in the b-pillar that hides the seat belt was all nicked and chipped from the seat belt hitting it when released. This must be a design flaw because none of the other SUVs had this, yet people were constantly unbuckling those seat belts too.

    Acura needs to revise that plastic so it is more durable.
  • billyperksbillyperks Posts: 449
    Good thing you brought that up.
    At the time when I was presenting my case to the service manager, he took me in service area and showed me a MDX with the B pillar plastic torn up so badly because of the constant hitting from the seat belt buckle.So I further stated that it is a manufacturing fault but he insisted that it is the owners fault and we should be more careful when unbuckling.What a joke.
    All I know is that dealership in Grrenwich ain't getting my business again.The wife is considering a new car and I told her to add the TSX to her list- guess which Acura dealership is not on our list?
    The dealership that fixed the problem was selling me the car for $800.00 over invoice, the problem dealer gave it to me for $200 over.
    Now all my business goes back to the dealer I did not buy the car from.
    Is anyone else having the same problem?
  • mraganomragano Posts: 1
    I just puschased a 1996 acura3.2TL without doing any research before buying.I love the car but had a few questions.
    1.Do I need premium gas?
    2.Is it true the have a problem with the timing belt?
    3.It has 84,000 miles,do I need to get any services or checks done?
                   Thnak You
  • tksungtksung Posts: 34
    Anyone with an idea when the official spec will come out?
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    any more torque and they will have to include a truckload of trannies free of charge with the purchase of every TL.

    P.S. Honda has not been the leader in engine power. Pontiac Grand Prix GTP had 240hp and 280 lbs*ft torque way before TL and CL. Chrysler 300M had 253HP and 255 lbs*torque, TL only started production that year with 225HP.
  • heymistaheymista Posts: 22
    My 2002 Acura TL-S' Transmission failed again. First one occured at 27k and this one at 36k. The service department is telling me Acura doesn't have any new trannies available, and they want to give me a re-manufactured one. Do I have the right to demand a new one? I should not have to risk driving a car with a previously failed transmission. Am I crazy or what?
  • Three years in my vw jetta glx and I've written vw off as LEMONS. Been looking at Lexus IS and Infiniti G35 when I saw the 2004 TL. Looks really Hot! Seems like a lot of you Honda/Acura drivers are happy with your cars. Anyone out there know when this new TL is going to be available? I don't know if I can wait much longer. My jetta is going back in for unscheduled service again for the second time in two weeks!!! I'd even settle for a base Civic over a vw.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282

    Post the name and/or email address of the dealership that you bought from that refuses to give you good service. Even though I'm not in the market for an Acura at this time, I'd be happy to drop them a line suggesting I would never buy from them.

    If it's any consolation, I bought an Isuzu Trooper from Fitsgerald in Bethesda, Maryland because they gave us a great deal on the price. Then they promptly started charging double what other dealers charge for routine maintenance. Like $1,000 for a 30k mile service! I've steered quite a few prospective buyers away from all Fitzgerald franchises, not just the Isuzu one.


    I wouldn't accept a re-manufactured tranny unless they offered you both (1) an extra-extended warranty (100k miles minimum) and (2) some form of additional compensation (i.e. cash).

    I know a lot of the TL owners here are rather accepting of this reliability fiasco, but that is not what the "Acura" premium brand name is supposed to be about. A friend of mine is an attorney for Saab Aerospace. Although their car business is now 100% owned by GM, he told me that they often "settled" claims for compensation that were less egregious than 2 transmission failures in 36k miles.

    I don't like to advocate hiring an attorney, but in this case, I think you've got more coming to you than a third re-manufactured transmission in a $30k car.

    P.S. What the heck are they using in the new TL-S's that supposedly don't fail anymore. And why can't they give you one of those??
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    "Post the name and/or email address of the dealership..."

    It is okay to post the name, but please don't post any contact info - thanks.
  • billyperksbillyperks Posts: 449
    The morans are called "GREENWICH ACURA".
    They have not heard the last from me, I have been so busy with work and my family that I have not gotten a chance to respond.
    I am going to call the Acura hot line and also write a letter to the owner of the establishment.

    When you have a three year child at home, you don't have time to fight with dealerships and their petty ways.
  • hclllhclll Posts: 35
    Having had the new TL for 3 weeks, I found the engine performs very different from the one of my previous Maxima.

    Nissan Engine is much smoother than Honda's. For Nissan, if you hold the gas pedal at a certain position, the magnitude of power is constant, but for the Honda engine on my TL, if you hold the pedal, it feels like the power comes in frenquent "pulses". THere are 6-10 small "shocks" of acceleration coming in one second.

    It just feel like the engine also has the "tapping" design used in ABS.

    Any of you guys aware of this? Personally I still like Nissan engine better, because you can "fine-tune" the pedal action, thus the acceleration.
  • jdone1jdone1 Posts: 22
    Have your tl checked by the dealer. My tl is smoothe as an expensive sewing machine.
  • dulnevdulnev Posts: 652
    I don't have ANY idea what you're describing! "Acceleration shocks"???
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