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I have a price quote of $29,000 out-the-door for a 2002 3.2-TL (no navigation, not a type S) from a bunch of dealers in NJ. I would like your opinion on whether this is a good deal.
Thanks, Pinkoo
1. There is nothing wrong, it is due to the crown in the road
2. I have a bad tire or the tire pressure is incorrect
3. They will need to cross-rotate the tires
4. It is due to the wind
Your problem could be something similar.
Yesterday hit the mountains, it was all I could do to slide either end. Tight contant radius corners posted 15 mph, TLS started slipping at 45. 20 mph corners took 60 without slipping.
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http://www.vtec.net/news/items/696.html
3.2 TL owners: are you hearing the same thing or is my dealer trying to squeeze some money out of me?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Thanks!
Here is a breakdown of the deal for you future TL-S shoppers:
$31,000 TL-S w/Navi and Dest. (inv= $30,430)
550 rear spoiler
135 splash flaps & wheel locks
5 CA tire fee
45 Doc fee
15 DMV fee (temp transit tags)
2,380 7.5% sales tax
$34,130 Out The Door price
For those of you purchasing cars out of state, be warned; ie, some states (like CA) require the dealer to charge sales tax, even if the car is to be titled and registed in another state (ie, like my deal). The only way in CA to avoid the sales tax is to truck the car to your location; you can't legally drive it out.
Driving the car from SoCal to Phoenix I got 32mpg on the first tank full (had to drive all the way to Yuma though, to get high test for less than the CA $2.xx range). Kept the rpms under 3K, but can't wait to try out the VTEC boost (I already have a Prelude VTEC, but of course only 4 cyls).
BTW, this was my first experience with a Navi system; I found it to be very helpful. I've driven to/from San Diego several times, but when I asked the Navi to give me the best direct route, it found a faster way (yeah and no dirt roads; all freeways). It also kept me honest. When I took a planned detour, it was recomputing the route and giving me directions back to the planned route. I think I'm going to enjoy the Navi capability.
If for some reason John at South Coast can't find you the unit/deal desired, send me a private message; I've got a few other names in SoCal that might be helpful. I found John to be an individual with high integrity and very honest during our negotiations; he accepted my word (and a Fax of my driver's license and insurance card) to solidify the deal. I'm glad we were able to finalize this deal and that John got my business (ie, I was within 1-2 days of another potential deal).
I don't have the deflector on my sunroof others have referred to and I guess my problem was more of a squeak than a rattle (if you want to be "technical" about it). Anyway, as I'd suspected, dirt gets between rubber and metal and when the roof flexes, it makes noise.
I brought my car in, gave it to the tech at 4:45pm and was back ON THE ROAD at 5:10, with a freshly washed, QUIET car. No charge. That was a little more than a month ago. Car's still as quiet and rattle free as new. (13,400 miles.)
You have to watch out with this service, though, as pointed out here many months ago. The fix involves cleaning and lubricating the weather-stripping and rubber seals around the sunroof and some careless techs will get the cruddy gel all over the exterior of the roof. I didn't have that problem. Also, it makes sense that if it happened once, it'll keep happening each year or so. But with a quick fix that can be done during any oil change appointment, no big deal.
Having said all that, you may be having problems other than that since you have only had your car a couple of months. Hope you find the answers you're looking for.
For the record, I couldn't be happier with my 2000 TL.
First month payment $367
Security $375
Bank Fee $450
Motor Vehicle and Plates $130
Document Fee $129
$367 per month
Residual Value $18,200
36 month lease....
Thank you!!!
Just curious, as I have bought cars out of state on occasion. All rules vary.
Thanks and enjoy! That is Civic gas mileage. My 00 Model was amazing also on the highway 32-33.
INKY
Help.
The best I am getting is 28,360 without taxes9 only 1000 below the MSRP)
Is it comfortable?
Is it roomy?
Overal is it quiet?
Is it quiet on the highway at 70mph, not alot of road and engine noise?
What RPM is the engine at 70MPH?
Is the TL-S harser, less comfortable than the regular TL? I'm more interested in comfort than sport, besides the regular TL is already "sporty" and fast enough. But if there is no difference at all in comfort then a TL-S won't hurt...
I'm more concerned about highway ride, comfort, and quietness. That's what is important to me...
Thanks
Well, go get a test drive and you can make your own decision.
I purchase my acura at niello acura in sacramento a. and they appear content to let the loud wind noise remain my problem.
I need to known whether or not anyone has had this type of problem and what can be done to get the problem corrected or have the dealership buy the car back. Pleas advise ASAP!!!!!
Thanks
mack21
Pricing is (includes vehicle, destination , gas, delivery, warranty,)
TL = $27,963
TL/Nav =$29,783
TL?S=$30,302
If you dont like to haggle or are buying a relatively in demand car at the beginning of the model year this is a painless way to go. Just my humble opinion
Regards
Jack
Don't think the wind noise is much different than other cars in the class.
Here's the official story from Acura themselves....
After about 3,000 miles on my 2000 Acura TL, I noticed a rattle emerging from the sunroof area of the car. I took it into the dealer; he said it would take about 30 minutes to fix. He cleaned and greased the seal and I was on my way. To make a long story short, the problem emerged again, another dealer, another 30 minute grease job on the seal. And then again- same rattle, another dealer, another grease job.
Something was truely wrong.
Frustrated and looking for resolution to this recurring problem, I called Acura Customer Service (on the back of the visa style Acura card you were given). After several weeks and multiple reps, I finally got a rep who acknowledged the truth of the matter: the seal of the Acura TL sunroof is a faulty design and they have yet to engineer a permanent solution to the problem. Every TL manufactured from 1999 has (or will have) this sunroof seal problem. Basically, the seal becomes dried out under certain conditions (hot weather, dry weather, etc.) This contraction allows the glass in the sunroof just enough space to where it will vibrate if the car is jarred- this is the source to your rattling. Apparently, Acura in Japan uses a paste with a long lasting application for the problem (no, not the paste they use here); this paste is not allowed to be used in the US for environmental reasons, though (again, this came straight from Acura customer service- you can believe what you want). Acura here came out with truely mediocre solution- a clear plastic tape to fit over the seal; basically if you complain enough, this will be the remedy which Acura provides. This tape lasts several months, but it also wears off and must be replaced. Why has Acura not issued a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB)? I asked this question myself to Acura Customer Service. His answer was that all TSB must be reviewed and approved by Acura (Japan) corporate itself; Acura (North America) does not have the authority to issue a TSB by itself. I could not believe that, on one hand, Acura realized internally that it had an engineering defect in every post '99 TL manufactured (just look through this board), while externally, it refused to acknowledge that an incorrectable design flaw had occurred in its flagship model. I do not know why Acura has not been more forthright about this problem- maybe the costs, maybe because it cannot find a solution so its a blemish to the Acura rep.- I really do not know. The manner in which Acura hs dealt with this problem does not make sense. This is, however, the genuine truth as to what has happened- what I posted in the e-mail is exactly what I was told by Acura Customer Service concerning the problem.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/Servicemmy5.cfm
Search on 1999/acura/3.2 TL/structure: body roof
To all you new TL Type S owners, are you pretty happy with your cars? How would you compare it to a standard TL? I'm pretty happy with my 99, but the lease ends in a couple of months. Is the TL just a faster, more nimble version of the base car?
Shellz
TL-unless you still can find the 2001, otherwise the 2002 is selling pretty much close to sticker.
Avalon-plain ugly. IMHO. Not worth to make any recommendation.
Among those choices, the TL had longer warranty and better customer services.
Maxima, you can find for invoice plus incentive financing. TL and Type-S closer to MSRP (unless you live on West Coast).
So there is anywhere from a 3000-5000 dollar gap. Your money. Need a bargin, Maxima in the fall when the new Altima arrives.
I enjoy both cars, but consider the TL a step up. (my wife usually drives the Max)
Avalon, never crossed my mind.