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Honda Accord vs Toyota Camry



  • The American built accord would be my choice. I have had an American 1996 Accord lx, a Japanese built, 2003 Accord ex, and now an American built 2005 Accord ex. My 96 had no rattles after many years, and 145000 miles. My 03 had several, plus a constant problem regarding my hvac and stereo lighting not working. I replaced it with my 05 when my 03 was wrecked.It has been flawless as my 96...Go with the one from Ohio.
  • What's up everyone? I'm considering leasing a 2005 Accord EX or Camry SE (4 cyl, 5-speed manual) to replace my '02 Hyundai Elantra GT. Drove the Camry today and was very impressed. It was possibly the quietest vehicle I've driven. Also seemed to have alot features for the money. The Manual was much smoother than I expected. I plan on driving the Accord soon. Any input, thoughts, etc would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks in advance for any help.


    Happy Motoring!


  • patpat Posts: 10,421


    I hope you are taking some time to read through the postings here - they'll give you a ton of input on your question!!


    Good luck.
  • mastromastro Posts: 39
    Okay, so I just read the last 6 months worth of messages...and I'm still undecided. Hang with me, I am going to buy a V6 Accord or Camry (I think). But, after all the helpful info on this site, I'm still undecided. Here's the deal - I currently drive a Volvo S60 Turbo and a C5 Corvette. The family (all 6 of us) travel in a Suburban. I'm selling the Vette and the S60's lease is up.

    I'd like to replace the Vette and the S60 with a solid second family car. I would like to keep my budget to less than $30K all in. Both the Honda and Toyota represent excellent values.

    Personally, I give the exterior appearance to the Camry and the interior to Honda. Space wise, the Camry has a slight advantage. I like both rides - I'd let my wife choose between the SE or LXE ride of the Camry (I'm neutral).

    Now, here's the question: What are the one or two things I should consider most in my decision?

    Thanks for your help!

  • Consider how the cars feel after you drive them--they're very different.

    The Camry is softer riding, but the Accord is a bit more sporty. Either way you'll have a good car, so it really doesn't matter if you have trouble deciding.

    One thing to consider is that Accords don't have any factory options because each model among DX, LX, and EX levels is sold separately with its included features. This makes the buying process easier and you can compare prices among Honda dealers precisely. Don't buy any dealer-installed options until you get the price on the car you're buying.

    I think Toyotas have a list of factory options and option packages that can be confusing and annoying unless you want to special order your car.

    I think it's easier to buy a Honda Accord that meets your requirements and any features you didn't want but get anyway because they're included will be features you'll appreciate later.

    I really didn't want XM radio nor a sunroof but had to get them with the Accord EX-L because only that model with the 4 cyl. engine had curtain airbags in 2004. Now, I enjoy the extra features that came with that upscale model......Richard
  • Why not spring for the Accord Hybrid. 255HP, 30/37 MPG, roomy, and it still has most of the EX's features. It's also a bit different.
  • The Hybrid is great technology, but the economic benefit doesn't exist at the price. You'd have to drive about 75,000 miles or more at current gas prices to get back the extra cost of the car over a V6 Accord without the hybrid feature.

    Resale will be poor as the car approaches the time when costly battery replacement is required.

    People who like to feel good about themselves will buy it and think they're doing the Earth a favor until they realize that if hybrids become popular, there will be dead batteries piled high like old tires are now. So much for environmental friendliness.....Richard
  • rutger3rutger3 Posts: 361
    Tough decision. I am in the same boat and have done alot ot research on this. Here are the major differences: between the Camry LE and Accord LX
    Camry: softer, quieter ride, power driver seat, outside temp gauge, bigger trunk and if money is an issue has a $700+ rebate and low financing, plus a longer powertrain warranty, but head airbags are an option.
    Accord: better handling,a bit more resale value,telescoping steering wheel,standard head airbags, low financing.
    Both great cars, cant really make a bad decision, but if you are like me and keep cars a long time, even the little things add up.
  • I wasn't suggesting the Accord Hybrid simply based on it's MPG. It's a "different" car. The 255HP is nice. And 255HP along with 37MPG on the highway is a good trade-off for the additional $3000 over a base Accord EX V6. I personally wouldn't buy a Hybrid but that's only due to the lack of sunroof and manual transmission.

    As for the reliability, get an extended warranty for 7 years/100,000 miles.
  • bizibizi Posts: 17
    Hybrid is a great technology. At this point, however, the street price difference between Hybrid and V6 EX is far greater than $3000. After Camry Hybrid is out, we will have more fun comparing them away, and hopefully the hybrids will be selling below invoice by then due to competition:-) BTW, Toyota has Prius for a while now, but do we think it's a direct competitor of Accord hybrid?
  • Seeing that you're on the sporty side of cars, long-term my guess is that you'll be happier with the Accord, which has more performance genes (forumla racing/motorcyle-derived engineering, 4-wheel double wishbone, etc.) than the Camry.

    If you're into it, the Accord sedan won't look disingenuous with bigger rims and a lip spoiler, which can't be said of the Camry imo.

    The kicker would be the Accord's higher resale and longer remaining life cycle (by 1 year; the Camry gets replaced by a new body as early as next year for the 07 model).
  • mastromastro Posts: 39
    Thanks. I was out and about yesterday and took a hard and critical look at both the cars. Surprisingly to me, I did feel the Accord's styling was more to my liking. Evaluating pictures on sites I thought I would lean towards the Camry.

    A friend of mine works in the auto industry suppling Toyota with some raw materials. He told me Friday night the same thing about the upcoming design change for the Camry. His timeframe was the same - in about a year.

  • Next Camry will be introduced Fall, 2006 ('07 model year) and next Accord will be Fall, 2007 ('08 model year).

    So, you'll have a newer style for a year longer if you buy the Accord.

    I think that it's best to buy ANY newly redesigned car after a year when the car's early defects have been corrected--there might still be problems, but fewer of them.

    BTW, don't be surprised if the next ('07) Camry looks like the Mark X recently introduced in Japan.

    I tried to copy and paste URL's showing pix of the Mark X, but the links didn't work on this page. Just GOOGLE 2006 Toyota Mark X and you'll find photos of it.....Richard
  • I have read about three different soruces that state the next Camry is coming out in Early 2006 as a 2007 model.

    I have heard the same things about the next Altima as well.
  • Well, of course, I can't be sure; however, both the Camry and Accord are currently on 5 year cycles with the Camry one year ahead. Unless there's a change in cycle time, the next Camry should be a 2007 model.

    Whether the '07 Camry appears early or late in 2006 is anyone's guess, but I'd bet on later next year.

    The all-new Avalon is a 2005 model--a fairly late introduction for a 2005 car.....Richard
  • jdeibjdeib Posts: 70
    You might want to look at the redesigned Avalon. The XL (which is very nicely equipped) starts out at around $26,000.00. The size is great, the power is fantastic (280 hp) and it is a nice looking car. The downside is that the deals on Avalons aren't going to be as good in that it was just released.

    Good luck.
  • I'm currently looking into both the Accord and the Camry. Looking to upgrade to something a little nicer from my 2001 Corolla LE. I'm partial to Toyota - that's all I've owned and I have always been satisfied - so I automatically favor the Camry slightly over the Accord.

    I like the options and features on the Camry like auto on/off headlights, outside temp gauge, full-size spare. I also like the exterior appearance of the Camry, particularly the SE model with the fog lamps, alloy wheels and rear spoiler. I'm not quite so sure on the interior of the Camry SE, particularly the dark charcoal interior with the orange gauges and speedometer (I'd really have to see it in person). Of course I don't have to get the SE model. I could get an XLE with even more features.... but for a young person, the XLE might make people think I'm driving my parents' car! I don't want a car that makes me look older than I am. I want something sophisticated but fun. And the XLE just doesn't look like a car for a a young 20-something guy. Which is why I favor the SE.

    I really love the interior of the Accord. The exterior isn't bad - it's grown on me. I like a lot of the standard features that come on the EX model. I definitely want the side/curtain airbags. I just wish the Accord came with some of the fun features that the Camry had. Even my Corolla has an outside temp gauge - why does Honda make it an option, even on their high-end model?!

    I've driven my mom's 04' Camry XLE. So smooth and quiet. I love the ride. I haven't driven a Camry SE to see the difference. Haven't driven an Accord yet either. I guess that would play a huge factor in which car I prefer. I really need to spend time behind the wheel of both cars.

    Of course, the Camry is due to be re-designed in late 2006 as a 2007 model. And the Accord should get a mid-cycle facelift sometime later this year for 2006. So if I plan to buy a Camry I should do it soon. But if I want the Accord, I definitely want to wait to see what changes come for 2006 (new bumpers, lights, grille, features, etc.?).

    So basically, I'm torn.
  • The Accord EX-L does have an outside temp gauge which shows in either of 2 trip odometers. The outside temp gauge does not show when total mileage appears in the odometer.

    It took me a while to become accustomed to leaving the odometer in a trip position, but I like that now and the outside temp is always visible.

    The Accord EX-L (leather) and EX V6 come with a standard XM radio which is great if you're willing to pay for a subscription to use it.

    I still like my '04 Accord better than the Camry I tested in August, '03 when I was car shopping, but it sounds like you might be happier with the Camry because you're currently a happy Toyota owner.

    The Accord's ride is much firmer.......Richard
  • If deciding between the V6 Camry SE and the V6 Accord, be sure and read the Toyota Camry forum: "Problems and Solutions."

    There is an ongoing discussion regarding a serious problem with the 2005 Camry SE transmission.

    My new '05 Camry SE with the V6 engine is anything BUT quiet and smooth! The electronic transmission has a terrible jerk and hesitation at low speeds. The sport suspension and low-profile tires are very noisy... especially on grooved highway pavement. The seats are extremely hard.....

    Needless to say, I am not pleased with my new Camry SE. Good luck.
  • "Statistics on injuries and death from the insurance industry are the most reliable measures of car safety IMO."

    Injury statistics are of little to no value. These numbers make no consideration for a wide array of influential factors. The type of person attracted to a particular car has a huge impact on that cars injury claim rate and accident rate. For example, a Mustang GT will no doubt have a much higher injury claim rate than a Windstar minivan. Which of these two vehicles would you expect to be involved in more serious crashes? The Mustang, driven by an inexperienced and reckless teenage male? Or the Windstar, driven by a more experienced, conservative mother? Driver demographics, location demographics, and a certain degree of randomness are all influential factors in these injury statistics.

    In order to ascertain the safety of a vehicle, you have to isolate and remove these extraneous factors and concentrate only on each particular vehicles ability to protect its occupants in a crash. Hence we have the IIHS and NHTSA crash tests.
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