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Oldsmobile Alero

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  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    I learned today that Oldsmobile will start manufacturing 2002 aleros with 5 speed this month. THat is why they haven't been available yet. I will let you know when I can drive one with the 2.2L. I ordered one today for delivery in 5 weeks.
  • sam775sam775 Posts: 22
    Was the 8 speaker 200 watt audio system available for 2001 models or is it just for 2002? Also, if anyone could let me know how does it sound compared to the 6 speaker set-up?

    Some time ago I was debating between an Alero and a Cirrus. Well, my Cirrus has been totaled by a reckless driver and now I'm looking for a new ride. Liked the Alero then, still like it now. I was wondering about the audio option since they have cash back for $2K on 01 models and just $1K on 02 models. If the system is available for the 01 I will try to find one with the options I want. Thanks.
  • I just bought an 02 Alero GL2 last week (my wife has a '99 GL1) and I splurged for the 6cyl & the 200w stereo. WOW! what a difference in both. the stock stereo in my wife's car sounds very good, but is not very loud. the 200w sounds slightly better but doesn't distort a high levels. Also the base stereo has a 2 band EQ (treb. & bass) but the 200w has a 3 band EQ (treb, mid, & bass)

    I couldn't pass up the $1500 owner loyalty, $1000 rebate, $950 on the GM credit card and getting the car at invoice. In the end I paid $16,932 for a car with a $22,010 sticker! and they give a 5 yr 60k mile warranty!

    splurge! get the GL2 with the sun & sound pkg. you will LOVE it!
  • Is there anyone, which I'm assuming that there are, who has put mods into/onto their Alero, and has had a great car ever since? How much have you put into the car, and are there any types of car kits for alero's? What kind of mods have you done to your engine, and are they worth it? Please note if you have a V6 or 4cyl. and what package you have. Also what you whould recommend.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I didn't put anything on my Alero and it's been a great car from day 1!

    Sorry, couldn't resist... ;^)
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    A guy 6 doors from me bought a new 02 Alero last week. I was walking down the street and saw him washing it so I asked him how he liked it so far. He has a automatic GL with the new Ecotec and the nice aluminum rims. He said he was happy so far and was just glad to get rid of his old Hyundia Sonata which was burning oil and had a lot of problems.

    I told him I was thinking about getting one so he gave me the name of the guy he bought from. Perhaps he will be my Alero buddy now. ;-)
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    WOW! I got to finally drive an 02' Alero GX sedan with the 5 speed manual and sport package. It is sweet! Much better than with the automatic. The 2.2L does very well. Try to drive one if you can...they are rare and just began production in November.
  • My mom owned a Malibu for a couple of years... wrecked it... and bought an Alero.

    What most are saying is on the money. Malibu has a v6 standard and has much more rear seat room (which is important w. an infant). The Alero is much more fun to drive and more sporty.

    Both cars are/were trouble free.

    I have an infant and have an Alero (in addition to a GMC Yukon). I must admit, the Alero has a very low roofline throughout and you have to be careful not to bump the baby's head on the rear door.

    IMHO, if I did not own the Yukon (which is the car my daughter is in 90% of the time), the Malibu may be the better choice... even though my 5spd Alero kicks butt and is a BLAST to drive.

    As for the American car reliability thing.... Mom has owned a Prism, Malibu and Alero. My wife owned a Cougar. I owned a Lebaron... not to mention the Yukon and Alero (and a 1963 Mecury)... all of these cars were problem free (except for a head gasket on the Cougar when it was 8 years old).... You can keep your rice burners, I'll keep America Rolling!
  • I am in the market for a mid size sedan and am considering the Alero. Around KC where I live there are a lot of mid size sedans because people are trading in with the financing deals. I have a couple of concerns though. I know depreciation happens, but will the value of my Alero, if I buy one, fall through the floor when Olds is discontinued? Just how bad is the water leak problem and any other problems? I spoke with one dealer who said there was a recall because they had problems with a cylinder warping or sometimes collapsing in the V6's in the 2000's. Any truth? I know every make and model comes with it's quirks, but because I am looking at a mid size and the market is flooded, I want to make a good decision.

    Thanks,
    Troy
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Depreciation : Not a big issue as it's a twin of the Grand Am. I don't think it will be any worse really.

    Water leaks : Have not heard of any in 2001/02 models.

    V6 engine : Generally very reliable, sounds like a isolated incident.

    My mom bought a first year 99 GL V6 and it's been a fantastic car, very reliable. I don't think you will go wrong buying one.
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    Is anyone else out there having trouble getting an Alero? I want to order one to get just what I want, and my 3 dealers refused to take my order because they are closing out Oldsmobile on Jan 1. Another dealer said he needs to find out what his allocation is, before he can special order one for me. I will need the car by January, and since it takes several weeks for an ordered vehicle, I am concerned that I won't have one in time!

    By the way, I also heard that 2002 is the last year for the v-6 alero. I was hoping they would mate the 5 speed with the 3.4 for vrooooom! Rats!
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    A lot of people are associating depreciation with the pending demise of the Oldsmobile brand, although I have yet to see any evidence that this has been (or will be) a factor. In fact, because the Alero is relatively popular, the loss of this model may drive up values of used ones (this is what happened when Isuzu changed the Trooper from a modestly priced truck into an expensive "luxury" SUV in the early '90s). The Alero is a good car (by GM standards), and we love our '01 GL2. We have a water leak in the front passenger footwell when the car is subjected to a typical Florida deluge (but otherwise it doesn't leak enough to be detectable). I found a GM TechNote article that indicates this could be caused by an improperly installed water dam under the hood (I posted the link on this board a few months ago). The dealer had to order a part and then ordered the wrong one, so the car has to go back for a third time -- hopefully it will be a charm, but they don't seem to know what they are doing.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    It's almost impossible to predict the depreciation. Yes, Olds will shut down and it doesn't help, but, the Alero is a very good car that's fairly popular. So many factors...

    I've had an Alero V6 for 3 years and have had no problems with it. Yes, a leak developed in mine too, but it was fixed in an hour by the dealer.

    About the 3.4 V6, yes, it had a lubrication problem in cylinders 5 and 6, but it's been fixed a while ago by reworking the lubrication channels and using tougher piston rings.

    Then again, there are fewer and fewer Olds dealers these days... :^(
  • Where do I find the paint code on my wife's 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GX. When I find it how do I read it?
  • hello from France
    Here in France Oldsmobile Alero is called Chevrolet Alero because nobody know oldsmobile, you have just 2 versions 2.4l and 3.4v6 sedan and is sold just in GLS version with automatic or manual transmision, the 2.4l cost about 147000francs (22000 dollars), i think is expensive because here at the same price you can buy a Mercedes or BMW, from 1999 till 2001 just 450 Alero was sold, people are afraid to buy Chevrolet because the spare parts are expensives and difficult to find,and many people and newspapers say that american car are bad quality, you ve just 20 garages that sold Chevrolet in France, the engines are too big for french people (2.4-3.4)because here the gasoline is really very expensive about 1 dollar for 1 liter(in USA is about 0.30 cents for 1 liter), the 60% cars solds in France are diesel and people that buy gasoline cars the maximum power is 1.5l-1.6l. i buy Alero and for the moment i am happy just i am afraid about rotors, the problems is that here you should buy GM spare parts because you can not find aftermarket parts for this type of car!!
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    The paint codes can be found on the Service Parts Identification Label which is on the underside of the spare tire cover in the trunk. The paint code is just below the long block of three-digit codes which are the RPO codes for the car, and I think is a five-digit code beginning with a "W". This is the code the dealer will need to match the touch-up paint.
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    Bonjour. I agree with you about why GM cars are not popular in France: they are expensive, difficult to find service for, and the engines are too big (and no diesel offered). German cars like Mercedes and BMW are offered in Europe with smaller engines and fewer features than in the U.S., therefore they are less expensive and competitive with cars like the Alero. On my most recent visit to Paris I only saw a few Jeep Cherokees, Chrysler minivans and Chevrolet pickup trucks, but not many. I did not see any Aleros. Enjoy your car!
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    No offense, but French cars were very unsuccessful in this market due to terrible reliability. As a matter of fact, premium European cars, such as BMW, MB, etc, are the only surviving European cars in this market. Not because they are more reliable than domestic ones, which they are not, but because some people oblige to pay more for some snob appeal... ;^)
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Very true, European cars as a whole are 2nd to last in reliability, just in front of the Korean cars. Co-workers with BMWs are in the shop with big bills all the time. They are very nice cars, just not close to Japanese or even American quality.
  • I have a 1999 Alero GLS. By and large I have had no problems with the car except for a persistent and very annoying problem. As the car is driven, there is a rubbing noise coming from the front end. It is not the brakes because the noise occurs whether or not the brakes are being used. Plus the noise slows when the car slows, and speeds up when the car speeds up. We tried all the usual remedies, including rotating the tires and having the rotors turned, and when that did not work, having new brakes put on. The noise kept coming back, but the dealer kept telling me there was nothing wrong with the car! I finally told them to stop insulting me and to keep the car until it was fixed. (Surprise, that did the trick!)

    The dealer ended up calling Oldsmobile, and when they described the problem, Olds said they knew what was wrong. Would you believe that the problem was solved by removing and cleaning the rims????? I was skeptical too but it worked -- for a while. The noise came back in 2 weeks, and again they removed and cleaned the rims. This time it only worked for a couple of days before the noise came back. The dealer referenced a technical service bulletin that Olds was preparing to release, but hasn't yet.

    My question is this: Has anyone else experienced this problem, and if so, do you know how to fix it permanently? I do not want to take my car to the dealer every 2 weeks for as long as I own it. Any ideas/suggestions are welcome!

    Thank you.
  • I am finding a lot of 2001 alero's coming in off lease programs with low mileage and the dealers seem to be very willing to negotiate. But almost all the GL's are the 4cyl. Will I regret the 4 if I get it? I drove the GL with the 4 and then drove a 01 Malibu with the 6 at the same dealer, about the same milage. Hard to compare because of weight and size difference and the fact they are different cars, but the 4 in the alero seemed to have just as much zip. I have yet to find a GL that has the 6, guess I can test a GLS.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I had a GL V6 for 3 years. It was a very, very quick car. I loved to show off its taillights to BMW 3 series owners (at least until the 330 came out)... ;^)
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    If you like the car and could care less about depreciaiton (i.e.: you plan on running it into the ground), by all means buy it. It's a nice car with average reliability. The Alero and all other Olds have taken a depreciation hit. That happened last year after they announced Olds was being discontinued. That is why Olds was offering a $1500 customer loyalty rebate to those current owners of Olds (this amount about the same as the depreciation) If you plan to only keep the vehicle until the end of the loan period, I would definitely lease it. If you plan on holding on to it for 7-8 years or longer, then buy it.

    Other then the brake problems (warping) they had when the Alero first came out, most problems have been hit or miss. The leaking problem should be relatively easy to fix. Unfortunately you still end up with a wet carpet.

    Test drive it and see if it fits your needs. GM has said that you can service your vehicle at any authorized GM shop after Olds is gone. And parts will be available for the next 15 years.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I agree the depreciation on Intrigue and Aurora will be a little worse, but Alero should see virtually no difference in depreciation vs. Grand Am as they are virtually identical internally and can be serviced at any Pontiac dealer. Intrigue and Aurora have unique engines and drive trains and hence are a little harder to service.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    Good point Dindak. But the depreciation for the Grand AM is not good. Mainly because they sell so many to rental car fleets. personally, I liked the Alero over the Grand Am. Much better styling (although this is subjective).
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    On a not subjective note, I preferred an Alero GL '99 over a Grand Am SE '99 because it had, for the same price: 4-wheel disk brakes, better interior materials, rear seat head rests, leather appointments.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Oh I didn't say the Grand Am was good, I just said Alero was no worse. If you want really bad, buy a Hyundia or a Kia.
  • i am not offense i dont like french cars but i can say that in the last 10 years they changed and the quality is comparate to WW, the probleme in Europe we have not an NHTSA so we can not know the real reliability about a car!!, i dont know why in europe all newspapers say that american cars have very bad reliability and poor quality comparate to europeans cars
  • i think in europe the people that drive in amercian car is because they whant drive"different"
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I agree. My uncle in the Netherlands has a neighbor with a Chevrolet mini van and he said the same thing. He wanted something different and bigger than what European makers had. European press is misleading people if they are saying American cars are unreliable because the hard data does not support that claim. I know that VW has improved dramatically in quality, but I also know they have a lot of problems. Just last night on TV they were reviewing a Beetle and mentioned that they have a problem with premature clutch wear on these cars.
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