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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,777
    The last GM car I owned was a 1974 Monte Carlo. I modified it as follows:
    L82 Air filter/valve covers
    Crane HT Cam/lifters
    Edelbrock Performer Intake
    Quadrajet carb(calibrated by yours truly)
    Recurved Delco Distributor/Mallory Unilite/MSD5av
    Blackjack Headers
    3" dual exhaust with Cherry Bomb Q (Turbo) mufflers
    B&M Transpak(Street/Strip calibration)
    Flex-A-Lite 15000 lb.GVW Transmission cooler
    3:42 Final Drive Ratio
    The only work I farmed out was the recurve, the Transpak install and some exhaust pipe bending. I still get requests to rebuild Q-Jets from time to time.
    I would have considered a G8 GT had it been available with a manual transmission; the GXP's price-even with a deep discount-was too high.
    The GM cars I like were designed during the 60's and early 70's, when engineers held a bit more sway than the beancounters or Federal regulators. My favorites include:

    The 1966 Toronado

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    The 1966 Riviera GS(I owned a 1967)

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    The 19701/2 Z/28 RS

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    1970 Rallye 350

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    1973 Grand Am

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    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    IIRC, the popo Caprice is going to be based on the longer-wheelbase WM Statesman rather than the G8/VE Commodore. I would have to imagine GM would kick out a limited, high-dollar civvy version at some point. If not, there are always surplus auctions.
  • I have hated GM for eons now. And all the hatred is very well-earned. :mad:

    But now GM, when painted into a corner, and arm fully twisted, and urinating on themselves, are showing the true talent that was always there, but they were too cheap to invest in.

    Anyone seen the new Aceo RS Concept? OUTSTANDING! I want one right now! 19" wheels? Great C-Pillar styling, 20 more horsepower than the Fiesta or CR-Z? And it WILL look just like that next year in production! At $16k, they will sell 100k easy! :blush:

    Camaro, Equinox, Malibu, just a lot of truly solid products that would get more sales if GM wasn't running around the room with scissors!

    I just wanted to say I am a convert from Honda/Toyota back home to The General!

    I don't even think THEY KNOW who is running the place now, but whoever it is (Lutz?), they are re-building the company on product, product, product!

    Great job, GM! And get that Aveo RS out here pronto! :shades:
    Rusty
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    Welcome back Rocky!!!!!:) It hasn't been quite the same around her since you've been away.

    While I'm not a GM fan, I promise to be on my best behavior if I decide to post in this thread. I saw you posted in here, so I just had to welcome you back.

    Good luck with the new gig.

    Okay, I give a GM plug. The new upcoming Regal looks cool. I hope they don't dumb it down and I hope they go full speed ahead with the GS model.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    The links I posted say it's as good as dead =( :cry:
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    FEZO: You might recall Rocky's obsession with a Buick Convertible that appeared at the Autoshow back in 2004 called the Buick Velite. If GM ever made one and put some XWD on her and I get back on my feet financially well that would be one automobile I would truly love to own. I'm a huge fan of Buick but I would like to see the brand expanded to include some muscle cars to help replace what we lost from Pontiac. The Grand National is still to this day one of the baddest to the bone automobiles ever made. I's like to see a return of the GMC Syclone & Typhoon......

    Beth just sold a special Berger Camaro that tuned by her dealership (They have a long history of doing this) with 550+ hp (Supercharged) and special Brembo Brakes, serial #'s, paint, signed by the owner, etc, etc, for $57K last week which was #6 for her last week. I'd sure love to own one!!! :shades:

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Really??? That would be AWESOME!!!! It would be a darn shame to see all that R&D poured down the drain. GM, really needs to take all that R&D from Saab, and use it and not let it go to waste. ;)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Nice!!! :shades:

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Thanks, dieselone!!! :)

    The new Regal, indeed looks nice. They have a lot of nice products coming out. I think the new Chevy Cruze will be a huge hit......I hung out with Beth last night watchin' some football over a few brewski's at B-Dubs and the new GM Preferred Pricing that replaced the GM Employee Discount "GMS" is marginally better than what they were getting before. I'm like are you serious??? Another think tank in the ivory tower justifying his job I suppose? :confuse:

    -Rocky
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    I have no idea of what a Cruze even looks like. Any pics?
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,106
    Here's a picture of it plastered on the side of the Lordstown Ohio plant, which currently builds the Cobalt and G5...
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    Not sure when it actually goes into production, but that picture was there back in June, when I drove past the plant on my way to Cedar Point. There was a concept/pre-production Cruze at the DC auto show last year. It looked pretty decent in person.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    I saw the Cruze at the Chicago Auto Show, the model they had there was good looking. Much better than the homely Cobalt.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    Will a Cruze coupe be available?
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    Will a Cruze coupe be available?

    I don't think so, but I can't say for sure. They only had a sedan at the auto show and I've never seen a picture of a coupe.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    Not only will the Cruze have to compete with a new Fiesta, but also a completely redesigned Focus will be available by '12 and it looks cool too. It looks like the new Focus will have a direct injected turbo 4 cyl available too. I'm sure Honda won't be sitting still with the Civic, nor Toyota with the Corolla, so competition will be fierce.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,464
    >Civic,

    Civic looks like a DustBuster. It can only get better with changes in styling.

    I don't find any pictures of a Cruze in a coupe.
    Oooops. Here's one
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  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    Under way, the behaviour is pretty unexceptionable, too. Neither the 113bhp, 1.6 or 141bhp, 1.8 petrol engines really seem to put their back into the task. There are buzzes and vibrations, and a general sulky unwillingness to climb to the higher sections of the rev-counter's arc.

    Paul slammed the 1.6L and 1.8L DOHC Ecotec fours in his review, and rightly so. Both engines are dogs; droning snoozers with no panache, no personality, and no discernable power or torque peaks. I wasn't impressed by the transmissions, either. The five-speed manual is somewhat balky and has ratios so widely spaced you could drive a '49 Packard between them, while the six speed auto shunts clumsily through the shifts in a race to get to as high a gear as possible as fast as possible.


    Every article I've read about the new 1.6 and 1.8 Ecotecs have not been good. Isn't GM going to have a 1.4 or so direct injected turbo 4 cylinder available? I'd think that would be the one to get.

    I wonder if the coupe will be offered here? Haven't heard anything about it.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    That coupe sure looks SHARP!!!
  • those little vents up front just below the A-pillar, too.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I agree buddy!!! :shades: They need to put the ecotec 2.0L in that puppy from the Cobalt SS/Sky only with 300 ponies!!! :shades:
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,774
    GM plans multi-million dollar refresh to truck lineup

    Rocky, since nobody is talking here.....

    If GM has limited funds how important do you think the balance of truck refresh funds vs. new sedan development funds should be spent? What are the most important places for GM to spend to come out successful?
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    The current line of trucks was introduced in '07 and Ford and Dodge have more recent redesigns. GM certainly needs to keep the trucks fresh. The last generation of trucks went relatively unchanged for nearly 8 years, just receiving some interior improvements etc. GM certainly doesn't want to get behind on trucks. They are still important. Plus with sales of decreasing they need to be even more competitive with the product.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I think since Dodge and Ford, have invested and raised the bar well I think GM has to keep pace and invest a good chunk into GM's Truck Divsion. If they could ever figure out away to perfect the plug in hybrid deal and we could have electric fullsize trucks....Well that would be a huge cash cow because you and I both know Americans really want to own a Truck or SUV if fuel prices weren't so high and the economy was better.

    I will say GM has to keep spending money on R&D for it's small cars. Peoples budgets and disposable income has evaporated. However because people are acting smarter with the money they do have at this present momment well small economy cars that are nice are very important. If I was GM, I'd be scared of that new Ford Focus. That is going to be a great car. GM, better make sure this new Cruze is just as great!!! ;)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    110% Agree!!! ;) When I was interviewed by the Wall Street Journal a few years ago on the Tundra's impact on the truck market well I thought at the time they were going to steal a larger market share than they did. The Big 3 sure have the best trucks ever!!! That new Dodge Ram kicks [non-permissible content removed] and is the current benchmark!!! I'd like to have a HD Quad Cab (4 door) 2500 Cummins w/ a stick!!! That thing looks like a luxury car inside!!!

    -Rocky
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    When I was interviewed by the Wall Street Journal a few years ago on the Tundra's impact on the truck market well I thought at the time they were going to steal a larger market share than they did.

    I thought they might too, but the market changed quite a bit after gas shot up. The casual pickup buyer pretty much stopped buying and that was the market Toyota might have been able to steal. The domestic trucks with their multiple configurations and options are way beyond what you can do with a Tundra.

    I'd like to have a HD Quad Cab (4 door) 2500 Cummins w/ a stick!!!

    Very sweet truck.
  • fezofezo Posts: 9,412
    I see where the new Regal is being priced at $27K or $30K with the turbo. Now we're talking! This strikes me as having to potential to be a real home run for them and having some real potential to bring down the median age of Buick owners. (won't do them any good if I buy one. I'd bring the age up!)

    I will say GM has to keep spending money on R&D for it's small cars.

    You betcha, Rocky! Forget what the Japanese are up to - Ford is getting deadly serious on his front!
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