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  • Don't know about the base engine, but the most popular engine is expected to be a fifth-generation version of the smallblock V-8. There are also rumors of a turbocharged 3.0 V-6 to compete with the Ford EcoBoost engines.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    Don't know about the base engine, but the most popular engine is expected to be a fifth-generation version of the smallblock V-8. There are also rumors of a turbocharged 3.0 V-6 to compete with the Ford EcoBoost engines.

    Ford is now selling about 50% of f150's with v6s, if GM does use a turbo 6 like Ford's ecoboost, they likely could have a 50/50 mix too with the 3.6 as a base engine. But it likely will come down to pricing and performance.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    The last of the breed.

    "The current Chevy Impala will be the last passenger car in production in North America to feature three-across-the-front seating.

    Chrysler Group LLC's last cars with front bench seats were the 2004 base-model Chrysler Concorde and Dodge Intrepid sedans. Last year, Ford Motor Co. discontinued the last of its bench seat cars: the Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car.

    While bench seats might bring back fond memories for many, few Impala buyers chose the option last year, GM said. One in 10 requested a bench seat — for an additional $195, the automaker said.

    Chevrolet will continue to offer bench seats on pickups and SUVs."

    Automakers kick bench seats to curb (Detroit News)

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,106
    Personally I think the bench seat lost its usefulness in the late 70's, around the time of downsizing, which is also the time that split bench seats became more common.

    Downsizing almost always ensured a larger transmission hump and a more intrusive dashboard, which would compromise the center seating position. Throw in a split bench seat, and that spot became almost uninhabitable.

    I think the newest car I had that had a fairly comfortable seating position was a 1979 Chrysler Newport. While it was downsized from the 1978 mastodons, Chrysler didn't have much money by then so what they really did was take their old 1979 midsize and make it a touch LARGER, so it still had a fairly small transmission hump. And the dashboard slopes away as it drops, rather than stick out like some of them do. Plus, it was a cheap model with the standard, non-split bench. It had a big armrest that came down in the center, but wasn't split.

    My '76 LeMans isn't *too* bad in the center spot, although the part that houses the radio and ashtray does drop down a bit. And the right side of the instrument housing juts out a bit as it drops down. Here's an example.

    My 2000 Park Ave has a split bench seat, but I wouldn't want to put a person in the center spot.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    edited October 2012
    While bench seats might bring back fond memories for many, few Impala buyers chose the option last year, GM said. One in 10 requested a bench seat — for an additional $195, the automaker said.

    I'm surprised at that percentage. When I browse new Impalas at my dealer lot (not often), I'd guess I'd see one bench for every three Impalas in inventory.

    My friend with an '08 Impala has the bench seat and was actually thinking about getting a '12 with the 6-speed and 3.6 and bench seat, but he hates how only the seats are beige and the rest of the interior is black. When he bought his '08, he found one that had been in inventory before Chevy changed the bench seat from standard to an option!

    I'm aware of a dealer via a friend, in the midwest who said they had ordered many of their '13 Impalas for inventory with bench for the very reason that they are going away.

    Personally, I'd probably seek out the bench if I were buying one. I think there's a perception of added room, you can slide across the seat if you need to, and it clears up space on the floor (no console). I think GM might be downplaying the numbers a bit to make it seem like 'eh, no big deal'. Plus...I've never felt a console cover that felt as good as a cloth center armrest.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    edited October 2012
    I'm surprised at that percentage. When I browse new Impalas at my dealer lot (not often), I'd guess I'd see one bench for every three Impalas in inventory.

    Considering most Impalas are sold to fleets, that may skew the results a bit.

    Same with pickups. I know Ford and GM still offer split benches, but a friend of mine who's been a salesman at the same chevy dealer for over 20 years told me to stay away from them as they are a hard sell and few customers want them. His point being I'd take a hit at trade in time.

    I prefer bucket seats, but it would be nice to be able to seat six in a pickup, so I've been considering the bench. The few times I've looked at trucks with crew cabs, you'll find maybe 1 out of 10 with a bench.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    edited October 2012
    Henry Ford "sought to discourage sex through car design.

    The auto king allegedly limited his Model T's seat length to 38 inches so as to inhibit lovemaking in Tin Lizzies," it said. "If that was Ford's intent, he failed, for a thirty-eight-inch seat was ample for determined coupes, the more so when the seat was removed from the car." (Inside Line)

    Maybe that was just a Midwest thing. :blush:

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,106
    And, one thing Henry Ford forgot about...those old Model-T's had excellent headroom. Even before the advent of tilt steering. :shades:
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    The only car I had with a true, (not split) bench seat was my 1968 Buick Special Deluxe. It's weird to think of adjusting the seat and having the whole thing come forward or go back today. Sad thing is, guys on a first date can no longer make a hard right and have their female companion slide toward them! ;)
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    Charlie Nash obviously had other ideas about what folks should be doing in his cars! Heh-heh! ;)
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,106
    edited October 2012
    I'll never forget an old episode of "Happy Days" when Richie bought an old 1950 or so Chevy convertible. He brings it home to show off the family and little Joannie blurts out "Those are Nash seats. Great for necking!"

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    Mrs. Cunningham was not amused. And neither was Father Dowling. :P
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,464
    GM announces that over the next years, years, more jobs will be coming to Michigan. Not line worker jobs but jobs for degreed individuals.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121008/AUTO0103/210080340/
  • former..umm...Boeing employees, imadazol97? ;)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    Nice to see it is for engineers and not for marketing and product development sucks, the people who have done as much to hurt GM as anyone else.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    Who wouldn't want an oversized silver boyfriend watch with blue face inspired by Malibu's interior lighting for $110?

    Mizrahi's Malibu line to go on sale (Detroit News)

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    "The redesigned 2014 Chevrolet Corvette — the seventh generation of the sports car — will debut on January 13 on the eve of the 2013 Detroit Auto Show, General Motors confirmed on Thursday.

    The 2014 Corvette will be significantly overhauled.

    GM did not issue any teaser shots of the car, but revealed the Corvette's new Crossed Flags emblem, said to "symbolize the new car."

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  • I'll be anxious to see that debut.

    I still remember the articles in Motor Trend during the 1970s, which would always feature a photo of the mid-engine showcar/prototype with the title, "Is this the 197X Corvette?".

    For some reason, it sticks in my mind that the magazine ran that same headline with accompanying photo at least three or four times!
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,198
    Wasn't that 197X Corvette also supposed to have a rotary engine?
  • At first, but GM abandoned its rotary engine project. Even after GM abandoned the rotary engine project, Motor Trend ran photos of the same mid-engine prototype/showcar, but said it would have the conventional V-8.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    The '75 Monza 2+2 was supposed to have a rotary, but it got shelved at the last minute, I think for emissions reasons. The center hump in a '75 Monza is huge because of it, and the '76's was much-reduced. I like the detail styling (small differences) in the '75 better though. Two high school friends had them as new cars--V8's--and I thought the styling was terrific, although the rear seat was the most ridiculous rear seat I'd seen up until a coworker's Honda Prelude.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    The teases keep dribbling out.

    "There's an all-new generation of General Motors Co.'s legendary small-block V8 just around the corner and it's a major deal. Not only is the LT1 6.2-liter version unveiled here today the power plant for the coming C7 Corvette, but a high-volume version of this V8 architecture extends to the pending new generation of GM's pickups launching in early 2013.

    Enthusiasts concerned there might be turbos or downsizing or some sort of general retreat in engine performance can rest easy: The new LT1 6.2-liter V8, which still uses an overhead valve design with pushrods and two valves per cylinder, makes a good bit more power than the LS3 V8 it is replacing. "

    Chevy Unveils New LT1 Small-Block V8 (Inside Line)

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    edited October 2012
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  • eliaselias Posts: 1,941
    another LT1? weird. I sure did like the 5.7 liter LT1 from the 1990s vettes & z28s... I suppose that will be the "old LT1" now that we have a nice new LT1.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    edited October 2012
    "General Motors Co. and its Chevrolet brand said Tuesday the company has donated 50 Chevy Silverado full-size pickups and Express cargo vans to the American Red Cross to help its recovery efforts in wake of superstorm Sandy."

    GM donates pickups, vans to Red Cross to aid Sandy recovery efforts

    "General Motors Co. said Tuesday it has produced 1 million GMC Terrain and Chevrolet Equinox vehicles since their debut in 2009 as 2010 models.

    The small SUVs have been big sellers for the company, as combined sales of the two vehicles in the small SUV segment have grown every year, doubling from 138,248 in 2009 to 283,491 sales in 2011."

    GM announces production of millionth GMC Terrain, Chevrolet Equinox (both links from the Detroit News)

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,464
    edited October 2012
    >...the [GM] has donated 50 Chevy Silverado full-size pickups and Express cargo vans to the American Red Cross to help its recovery efforts in wake of superstorm Sandy."

    That's a true US company. :shades:

    I Don't find anything about what Honda and toyota donated to the disaster.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    edited October 2012
    Nothing about Ford or Chrysler either. GM had one plant in Baltimore directly affected by the storm.

    GM reports superstorm Sandy-related closure (mlive.com)

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  • fezofezo Posts: 9,412
    It ought to be a true American company. We own the damned thing!
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,464
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRZ1oGLgOk&feature=youtu.be

    Video of Camaro chasing a U2 doing practice tough and go. Normally the car is used to facilitate landing as well as take offs.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/awesome-video-captures-spy-plane-landing-from-a-- unique-perspective/
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,777
    edited November 2012
    The SR-71 Blackbird used an AG-330 start cart powered by two Buick Nailhead V8s to spin up the two Pratt & Whitney J58-1 engines:

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,616
    "Two big investors said Wednesday they had added to their investments in General Motors Co.

    Billionaire investor Warren Buffett's investment arm, Berkshire Hathaway Inc., acquired another 5 million shares in GM raising his stake in the company to 15 million shares in the quarter ending Sept. 30.

    And David Einhorn, who runs Greenlight Capital hedge fund, boosted his stake in GM to 21.6 million shares from 17.4 million as of June 30."

    Buffett, Einhorn boost stakes in GM (Detroit News)

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