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Hyundai Elantra 2001-2006

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  • jxs81jxs81 Posts: 26
    I'll probably wait after fixing the car again. The check engin light went on for the third time with only 1100 miles on it!!
  • tb88tb88 Posts: 242
    The check engine light comes on, after filling up the tank, if the cap is not turned until it clicks a few "clicks".
  • "PS. I have been reading about your posts about Zaino... I am not a big fan of Waxing... I thought the clear coat paint used nowadays doesn't need any of that! Am I wrong?"

    I am no expert on car finishes. However, I do understand that all finishes need to be protcted from the sun, oxidation, etc.

    Zaino is not a wax -- it is a polish. You do not buff it, only apply it and wipe it off when dry. Zaino recommends that you have as little contact as possible with your car's finish when washing, etc., and to use 100% cotton American-made towels.

    The reason I like Zaino is because it that makes my car look great and apparently offers the highest level of paint protection from the air and sun. It is easy to apply and is supposed to last 6 months -- I don't know, because I apply a new coat every 2 - 3 months to increase the gloss level!
  • jxs81jxs81 Posts: 26
    My 2001 elantra has the check engine lights went on for 3 times (at 300, 800 and 1100 miles!). I've contacted the attorney general's office, and I was advised to contact BBB AUTO LINE for arbitration if they fail to fix it again (which might be a couple of weeks away, based on my experience).

    Does anyone know what could I get from the arbitration? What should I prepare for it except all the documentation of repairs? My car did not show any other symptom in addition to the check engine light, so what I have are the paperworks of repair.

    Any advice will be highly appreciated.
  • My limited understanding of the arbitration process for the "lemon law" is that, if they can't fix it after 3 attempts, they have to replace the car as it is now a "lemon". However, the complaint must be serious enough (in the eyes of the Arbitration Board?) to warrant replacement. I don't know about the BBB Auto Line...

    I'm not sure the check engine light is serious enough to warrant replacement, though. Make sure you document your visits to the service department and good luck!
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I agree with what others have said. My sister just had her 00 Honda Odyssey replaced with a new 01 after fighting Honda for a year. She had a long list of major problems with her van. The engine light coming on 3 times does not constitute a big enough deal in an arbitrator's mind. Did the light come on for the exact same reason each time or was it for different problems? If it was the latter, than you definitely have no case. Even if it was the former, you only have a very slim case at best. But again, since you indicate no major malfunction of the car itself, there really is nothing you can do at this time. I wish you luck!
  • jiikenjiiken Posts: 2
    I purchased a new 2001 Elantra GLS 3 weeks ago and have put about 1200 miles on it. So far the car is great and people are amazed at all the features is has, and the A/C works amazingly well. The 15" rims give the car a very smooth ride, better than the Honda Civic in my opinion. I test drove alot of cars before deciding on the Elantra, and to me it seemed the best car in its class. The interior has a surprising amount of room with rear cupholders even and the seats are very comfortable. It even has top of the line Michelin A/A tires on it. No complaints whatsoever here, I am very happy with my purchase. For the money you cannot go wrong.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    you must speak with forked tounge, not lngtonge. NiggaGee knows that Hondas are wonderful and Hyundais are crap. Why else would their logo be bent?

    As I write this, if you look in the Maintenance forum you'll see 821 entries under Honda Accord Quality Control Issues, 353 entries under Honda Civic Problems, and 123 entries under Honda Civic Quality Control Issues. Why is that, Mr. NiggaGee?
  • steveb70steveb70 Posts: 15
    Even though I don't own an Elantra yet, I have to come to Hyundai's defense. The check engine light can surface on any car. Just visit the "Check Engine Light" forum under Maintenance and Repairs. 540+ posts, including one from me regarding my Corsica.

    I'm not excusing a dealer who can't seem to get the light to come off (because I agree, that's wrong), but it's not just Hyundai-made cars that can have this issue.

    To the person who is having problems with the light coming on the '01 Elantra, and as someone else pointed out, check the gas cap for three clicks and make sure you aren't "topping" the tank off. If these approaches don't fix the problem, I'd keep taking the car back to the dealer until they fix it.

    Steve
  • tb88tb88 Posts: 242
    There is no way any sound mind will agree to use the "lemon law", because the engine light keeps coming on for the third time !!!!
    If the engine light comes on, the owner should try to remember if that happened after filling up the gas tank ... if it was overfilled... if the gas cap was turned until it clicked a few times!

    If one doesn't remember and the car runs otherwise normally (sound/rpm/shifting,temp...), then it is not much to worry about, but it needs fixing!

    In Hyundai's manual they warn (in yellow) on PAGE 1.1:

    "WARNING:
    * Do not "TOP-OFF" after the first nozzle shut off when refueling.
    * The fuel cap must be tightened at least 3 clicks, otherwise " " light may illuminate."

    Also somewhere else , they warn about cellular phone installation which might also cause "serious problems" / interference to the computer on board.

    .
  • tb88tb88 Posts: 242
    > > By the way, tb88, The 2002's must be close to the docks -- > >

    I don't know if it was a good thing I didn't wait for the 2002... because I read a review which was not very flattering about the new "shiftronic tansmission":
    "All Sonatas receive a new 4-speed shiftronic transmission which permits manual shifting as well as automatic shifts. The incredibly smooth shifting transmission of the previous Sonata would be hard to beat and my first impression is that the shiftronic isn't quite as smooth in automatic mode, but nevertheless an excellent transmission. And manual shifts were a bit lazy."

    I think I will try Zaino, if it does't require too much work to apply... but the problem is which one? they list several products! Also how much (oz) do you need?

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  • baberbaber Posts: 96
    I have never had the engine light go on with our 99 Elantra, but I have had the check engine light go on in my 99 Accent twice. Both times just after I overfilled the tank when I tried to top off the tank. The check engine light came on a few hours after I over filled the tank both times. I ended up resetting the check engine lamp by pulling the fuse marked ECC (engine computer?), and then reinstalling the fuse. This reset the computer that controls the engine. In both cases the check engine light went off and stayed off. Since then I never top off my tank when refueling, I always stop when the pump stops and make sure the cap is reinstalled tightly.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    I was told by the tech that if it's on and glowing steady it's no big thing. If it flashes THEN it's serious.
  • The new "shiftronic transmission" is on the 2002, right? Since the review was not very flattering, it looks like you made the right decision in purchasing a 2001, especially since the review was favourable for the 2001 transmission. I have "autostick" on my 300M -- it's not much more than a novelty, but it comes in handy on twisting mountain roads.

    Re Zaino -- the only products you need are the base (I think that's Z-1) to prepare the car's finish for the polish application ( I think it's Z-2 or Z-5, depending on clearcoat or regular paint). I also use their car wash concentrate.

    The base and the polish go on very lightly with their applicator. You can put on as many coats of the polish as you want -- each coat increases the gloss. You should probably get 12-15 coats from one bottle -- probably enough for 3 years or more. I have never removed an old application, just put on another coat.

    Read the info on their web site, they give you many helpful hints!

    BTW, I agree that the "check engine" light is not worthy of lemon law arbitration, but it can be very frustrating. In virtually every manual, they fail to indicate what the problem could be, and just tell you to have the vehicle serviced. However, it can be a more serious problem with emmisions control, etc. I had an '89 Chevy Caprice that gave me these warnings just before the catalytic converter seized and had to be replaced. It was out of warrannty and expensive!
  • elantra00elantra00 Posts: 225
    My engine light came on about 3 times. Everytime I call the dealership to call for an appointment, it goes out! However, the third time that it did this, I still brought it in. Turns out it had a stored code that showed that the oxygen sensor was bad. Kept working and then not working. Thats what made the light go on and off. All fixed now..under warranty. Not a big deal.
  • jxs81jxs81 Posts: 26
    I brought the car in today, and I was told the gas cap was loose. That's a kind of surprising because I did remember to get it click at least three times. And I filled the gas over a week ago. Maybe the cap can get loose by itself after some driving? Anyway, I'll try the gas cap first next time.

    As to arbitration, I'll just forget it for now. Never thought it'd be easy. Just a kind of encouraged by the attorney from attorney general's office. He did say I can apply if it happened the fourth time. Thanks for all the kind advice.
  • danv4danv4 Posts: 2
    I recently purchased a 2001 5 speed manual Elantra.Does anyone have an opinion on which octane to use?I have heard that higher octane is not good, but wonder why they would make it if it is not good??So far I have 400 miles and have loved every one ! no shimmy, no engine light , just a nice smooth ride. I am hoping to get better mileage soon, right now I am averaging 27, mostly highway, but was hoping for more around 33
  • tonykrapiltonykrapil Posts: 211
    Premium grade fuel is PERFECT for cars that require it. It is not by any means no good as you put it.

    Read what the owner manual recomends and use it.
  • danv4danv4 Posts: 2
    Well my manual says 87 or higher
  • baberbaber Posts: 96
    The Elantra engine is equipped with a knock sensor that automaticaly adjusts the timing of the engine to the octane rating of the gas being used. This way the Elantra can take advantage of high octane gas with increased engine performance. In practice the average person will not feel the difference in performance between 87 and 93 octane gas.
  • May be a dumb question.

    Is it good to use a premium gasoline during break in period and then switch to regular. By doing this does the engine get a better chance to set right?

    Thanks in advance.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    The answer is no. About twenty years ago, premium fuel might have had a better detergent mix. Those days are long past. Buying premium has absolutely no advantage unless the compression ratio warrants it.
  • Hey Hyundai Fans - THC is back up.
  • I got some Zaino item #'s mixed up in a previous post(the descriptions were OK). This is what I would suggest for a new car:

    Z-1 Pre-cleaner
    Z-2 Polish (for clearcoat)

    If you buy the Z-7 car wash concentrate, your total will be $29.85. With a purchase over $25 they will give you a $2.50 cotton polish applicator free.

    Total cost, including S&H, would then be $36.80. With the exception of the car wash, this should last you for years.
  • browneybrowney Posts: 104
    The following link explains the difference between wax and polish and has car care tips.

    Just an FYI for those of us who didn't know the difference.

    http://waxdepot.safeshopper.com/faq.htm#1
  • tb88tb88 Posts: 242
    Thanks Intrepidspirit for the info. Do you WAX your cars?
    The question is : Do you need a WAX on a clear coat paint?

    Since I like this car quite a bit ( no problem so far, break-in period almost over 1,180 miles in 10 days), I will use Zaino. It's too bad I didn't get the GLS... I decided against it mostly because there is only 21 hp and 10 torque difference... Next time, hopefully if they are still cheap!

    Thanks Browney for the Wax Depot Site...Very informative ... Now I know the difference and which one goes first!

    .
  • elantra00elantra00 Posts: 225
    Polish deepens the gloss and makes the paint shine. Wax protects the paint and makes the polish last longer. However, it seems Zaino is 2 in one because it has protectants in it, such as a UV protector from the sun and other stuff. Zaino works well and really makes the paint shine in the sun WITHOUT swirl marks. You need to wax your car whether its clear coat or not. If you don't, the paint could get damaged and the clearcoat can slowly disappear as it did on my friends car. Now he needs a new paint job. Body shop paint jobs NEVER come out as good as the factory because the environment is different, dirt can get suck underneath and there are always runs in the paint. So take care of your paint :)
  • I don't wax my car. As elantra00 says, Zaino already protects the finish. I think I read somewhere on the Zainobros.com site that you did not need a wax...but anyway, I haven't heard of anyone using both Zaino and wax!

    Glad you're happy with your new Sonata... :)
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    Just checking in wondering if Hyundai (or the IIHS) has made any progress on figuring out why the Elantra fared so poorly in the offset crash test.
  • aquesadaaquesada Posts: 24
    Looks like you are very interested on the Elantra(more than Elantra owners), Why you don't check for us and let us know the results, because you are the only one who still cares about it.

    Oh!.. remember this is an Elantra's forum not an Echo's forum: Get out of here!!!
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