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Mazda Millenia

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  • I got the first post.

    Sorry, just had to do it,
    Bob
  • beaux1beaux1 Posts: 1
    Gotta ask this group: I have a chance to purchase this car for $8000. Looks great (looks new, actually), runs great. Records of service look great. But after reading the Millenia S posts from beginning to end, I'm skittish. Should I take it to a Mazda dealer for a mechanical checkout? My wife says I'm nuts to consider ANY car with this kind of mileage. How should I proceed? Help me out, folks...
  • Hi I am looking to buy a 1998 Millenia - Base Model with 45K miles. I don't see too many articles refer to the 98 models. Are they simply too new or is the car getting better with newer models?
    Thanks.
  • barich1barich1 Posts: 55
    beaux1:
    Mazdas frequently last until 250,000 miles and sometimes on up. The '95 was the first year, however, and most of the mechanical problems I have heard of on the Millenia are on the '95s. It also has fairly high maintenance costs.

    manichawla:
    The '98 will be great, though!
  • marty42marty42 Posts: 1
    Hello everyone,

    I was out car shopping today and looked at two Millenias. Just so happened that they were both '97 L's with leather and seemingly all the options. One had the gold trim package as well as the CD changer and 30K miles. The other didn't have these extras and had only 18K miles. But, it had quite a bit of hail damage.

    I hadn't checked into prices before looking at these two cars and was surprised at the relative low cost. I was quoted $15,700 for the one with 30K miles and the extras (Mazda dealer) and $15,990 for the one with 18K miles (Honda dealer). Both prices seem well below book. How do they compare with your experience?

    In pouring through all of the postings (wow, there's passion out there for this car - good and bad) I have a couple of questions I hope someone can answer:

    1. Is the timing belt replacement at 60K miles
    only a requirement for the Miller engine? If
    a TB replacement is required for the 2.5L is it
    as expensive?

    2. Message #342 described the programming sequence
    for the '95 or '96; does this also apply to the
    '97?

    Thanks in advance for your feedback.

    Marty
  • 97mazda97mazda Posts: 9
    Follow the breather element hose to the bottom where air is sucked in.There is a white plastic container,REMOVE IT.....YOU WILL GET AN INCREASE IN HORSE POWER ABOUT 20 ADDITIONAL.IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU CAN REINSTALL IT.
  • Has anyone tried the modification suggested in post #6? Does it void the warranty? Is there a risk of any damage to the engine? What exactly is that white plastic container and what does it do?
  • mantagmantag Posts: 47
    that is hi mileage for a 95, and the price reflects that. if you get the car make it contingent for a thorough inspection from mazda at the owners expense. make sure it has had the 120 k service INCLUDING THE TIMING BELT. The 120k service w/ TB will run approx $700-800
  • bmwz3rbmwz3r Posts: 1
    0I have a 1995 Millenia S with 101,000 miles on it and here is my situation:

    On my last oil change I drove between 5,500 and 6,000 miles (I use the blended oil for longer life ), when the technician pulled the dipstick...nothing was there. The engine was 3+ quarts low. I was surprised by this fact because nothing had ever been wrong during previous changes. I went ahead and had the engine treated with the equivalent of Slick50 and had the oil system flushed out as well.

    4,000 miles into my current oil change the "check engine" light came on so I pulled into a gas station, pulled the dipstick and found the oil to be two quarts low.

    This morning when I went to leave my home (about 1,700 miles after putting two quarts in) the car had to turn over many times before it would start instead of the instantaneous response I am used to. After starting the "check engine" came on and stayed on, I checked the oil and it appears that I am at least a quart or more low again.

    I have put valve and ring additive into the oil (just recently) and have never noticed the car smoking even when following my wife in our other vehicle. There is no leak that is noticeable.

    I have noted that my gas mileage has dropped into the low 20's on the highway driving 70-80 mph, and I noticed lately that it almost feels like I am towing a boat!

    I know none of these things are good, probably looking at piston rings or valves or both. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any suggestions? I love the car, its looks, amenities, etc, and really feel that 100,000 miles is too soon for this type of problem to be presenting itself. Reply if you have any comments and similar experiences.

    It is parked for now and goes to the dealer this week for an analysis.
  • marak88marak88 Posts: 57
    Hello

    has any one tried to increase the HP for the S model, I hear that using K&N Air Filter is one way to do that, but I can't find any one who sell the K&N Air filter for my 1999 MILL S.
    has any one any idea where to get those filter from, because the only one I can find is for a 1997 Mill.
    also has any one tried any other methods to increase the HP.

    I was looking at some of the reviews, most and not all of the data at this one site as an example http://www.autosite.com/new/grabbag/perform/2213.asp shows that the older MILL S models are faster than the new ones, why is that??

    What do you think??
  • tbird25tbird25 Posts: 1
    My wife and I just purchased a 2000 Millenia Base model. The MSRP was $27,695. The dealer came off the sticker price $2,438 to $25,237. That was then reduced by the $2,250 rebate for a sales price of $22,987. This was about $600 lower than I had ever dreamed. This deal was actually advertised in the local section of the state paper (Arkansas). I was told that the 4.9% financing offered through Mazda is not available if the rebate is accepted. To get the financing, the rebate is reduced to $250.

    I think we got really lucky. The dealership is a combination Mazda/Buick/Oldsmobile site. Another dealership, however, just bought it. It appears that they are trying to move the Mazdas ASAP.
  • dmkdmk Posts: 22
    Tbird,
    You got a great deal! Enjoy the Mazda and drive the heck out of it!

    K & N, go to a Mazda forum and ask.

    120,00 mi. Millenia--get the records and make sure the 120,000 mi. service was done.

    Enjoy your cars!
  • mantagmantag Posts: 47
    check performanceproducts.com i believe. i have the k/n air filter will last forever(reusable) $ 30-40. does improve hp a bit, as far as gas mileage, i am not sure. i tend to drive fast so have not noticed a real improvement in mileage.
  • marak88marak88 Posts: 57
    I checked the site that you posted, it only advertise the filter for the non S Millenia model (2.5 L), so I assume that you have the base model.
    I'll keep on looking.
    thanks for trying though
  • I have a 99 base Millenia w/19,700 miles on it. The tires are starting to get bald. It will cost me $611 to put on the identical Michelin tires it came with or for $487 I can put on Century tires, which come with a warranty and are suppose to be just as good. Has anyone put Century tires on their Millenia? And if so, do you like them?

    Thanks,
    Jason
  • mantagmantag Posts: 47
    marak88, i have a 95 S. i am trying to remember, if the site had a differentiation or not between the 2 engines. the filter i got fits fine. i know the two engines are vastly different, bit maybe there is no difference re: the air filter.
  • Hi. I wanted to ask if anyone knew how to get more HP out of Millenia? The KN filter, doesn't it void the warranty? Any other tricks anyone knows?
  • 97mazda97mazda Posts: 9
    The container only prevents the Millenia from breathing more air.
  • I purchased a K&N air filter right after I got my 97 Millenia S. Did it not for performance, but to save dishing out for an air filter every 3-4 months. I got mine at Hi-Lo for 44 bucks. I have done this with my previous cars, and if you plan on keeping it for over 2 years you will be saving money.

    As for gas mileage, I now live in Tucson, Arizona, therefore I have no freeways to use. Just stoplights galore. My mileage in town varies from 21.5 (summer) to 22.5 (winter). Interstate mileage is 26-27. By the way, I never figure gas mileage by gauge. I do it by inputing trip mileage and gas pump gallons into an EXCEL spread sheet and keeping running totals.

    I like the car(0 trips to the dealer so far), but am disturbed by the talk of dropping the Miller Cycle engine. Does anyone have some up to date info on this??? Also, has anyone used the tweaked engine computer for more HP, and replaced the stock struts/shocks???
  • The miller engine will still be around for the 2001 & 2002 model years. After that it will be gone, because it doesn't meet 2003 EPA guidelines.
  • marak88marak88 Posts: 57
    Well, I finally was able to get my car in when service manager was there, and his comments about my car not getting a better gas milage than 20 mpg on the free way was: the hot weather, if I had my A/C on or off ( like I did not already know that), how I should be driven @ 45 mph to get the best gas milage (now who is going to be driving @ 45 mph on the high way), he also ignored me telling him that I took a trip last summer (very hot) and I had my A/C On the whole trip cruising at 80 mph I had 24-25 mpg, and it has only been very recently that I been getting the very poor gas milage ( its gotten as bad as 16 mpg).
    he told me to just keep monitoring the mpg for a little longer, may be it'll get better, (I think that was his way to tell me that there is nothing they can do for me).
    Well, I'm not going to hate the car or start down talking about my car ( I still love the car ), I just wish to know why is it not getting as good of a gas milage as some of the other.

    Oh, by the way I did find a site that they commented a bout a poor MPG for the millenia S. If you are interested just go to this site:

    http://classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/display.exe?partner=gte&path=auto~reviews~car~2000MazdaMillenia_roadtest

    Also, the K&N filter will not void the vehicle warranty, to find out more, go the below site and click on AIR FILTER FACTS, then click on the VEHICLE WARRANTY.

    http://www.performanceproducts.com/Catalog/KNENG/K&N%20Air%20Filter.asp

    I hope that helps

    Regards
  • anthonycanthonyc Posts: 21
    Here is the official japanese website for the new 2001 millenia. I think a lot of you might be interested in it. It is in japanese. The interior of the millenia looks pretty much the unchanged. Just click on the those links under "select menu" on the main page and it will lead you to the photo galleries for the interior and exterior of the millenia. I think the first link is exterior photos and and the second link is interior photos. There are some english headings here and there on some pages.

    http://www.millenia.mazda.co.jp/
  • I just purchased a 95' millenia. I have read alot of the posts. I was wondering if removing the white canister attached to the breather hose works for the base 2.5 v-6 and if it provides a significant improvement in performance also is it safe on the engine. does the k&n filter also provide a significant increase in performance. is there any other inexpensive improvements out there that may help. thank you
  • After owning over 50 cars, mostly sports cars, i now own a Black 99 Millenia S. Really like it's looks and drive. Was getting beat bad at lights. Found out you have to shift it yourself, turn off non slip button, drop to 1st and engage trans lock. disengage lock button after revs high and then upshift as needed, problem fixed. Now it's the runner i enjoy. No i don't do this often but when needed it's there. 10,500 miles and average 23 to 28 mpg.
  • Hi, I found the perfect car tonight and I am skeptical of what the dealer is asking for it. I am new to the Millenia crop, but the car is perfect. The dealer says he wants 17,9k for it with 27k miles, it just says Millenia on the back and everywhere so I just think it is the base version. How do you tell the difference? Do they have the L or S on the backs beside the Millenia name?
  • The Millenia S as an "S" next to it's name in the back. The Millenia L has leather interior with no distinctive lettering. The L was discontinued in 1999, but you could get the Premium package on the Base model for the same effect. What year is the car? For that price it should be at least a 1998. You probably have some bargaining room here. Check the used car prices on the Edmund's home page for the specific year. If you don't need the power, stick with the base. I do need it, and I have an "S" and love it.

    Good Luck
  • 97mazda97mazda Posts: 9
    Has anyone tried this modification if not ,
    TRY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • I've been seriously looking at the Millenia to replace my 93 Subaru Legacy and can get the S or Base for 7500 off sticker in Boston. I want to go with the Base, but am concerned about low end acceleration -- I assume removal of the white container significantly makes a difference in performance based on previous comments. Does anybody know what the impact of removing this device is? - why would they have it to begin with unless it was implemented by Marketing to create a more significant difference in the engines?

    Appreciate any and all comments, because I really thing the car is unique and a good value regardless of model.
  • rowekaroweka Posts: 1
    Hi - I just bought a '97 Millenia with 40K miles. I love the look and feel of the car in general, but the shifting seems to be clunky, very unsmooth and it almost seems as though it shifts at the wrong time, i.e., too early or too late. I'm not sure if the car has had its 30k mile check-up.

    Has anyone else had this problem? Do you know of what the cause might be?

    Thanks, Kim
  • I have a '96 Mazda Millenia and I don't know how to program the keyless entry remotes. I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
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