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fwatson, you're not to old, you just have really bad taste! (just playin) :-) But on the serious note, the chromes on the platinum Mill unquestionabley (IMO) mates well with the brilliant finish on the platinum Mill's. (u ever seen a platinum mill w/chromes passing you by at night?) Furthermore, Mazda utilizes 5 year chrome plating technology on the wheels, which is literally the best quality chrome plating that is utilized; even in the aftermarket arena. This is another reason why I opted for them.
I concur with nvedrani's comments regarding this topic. The non-chrome option looks cheap 16" or 17". The mono-chrome look is downright gaudy, yuk; to much of the same thing isn't good for you. The next best alternative to chrome on a Mill would be a Machined Finished wheel; especially on the platinum skin.
I have 61K miles on it now, and I read some posts that say that I can wait till 105K miles to change the timing belt. The manual says that California residents do not need to replace the belt till 90K miles. Anyone know why?
and I have to say thanks to Edmunds for making these Town Hall Chats available.
And I don't plan to keep mine for more than 4 years or so, so the 60K service isn't something I worry about.
Test drive them yourself, some folks find 170HP just fine and they don't like the stiffer ride of the S model.
Tomek
I put in 89 Octane gas as well. But it has to be detergent gasoline ie from Mobil or Texaco in the northeast. It has been hit or miss with Exxon. Although they say they put detergent in all grades, some of the independent owners do not put detergent in their 89 octanes.
Or you could look at it from the other direction and think, "Why should my belt die forty thousand miles early just because I live in [fill in name of appropriate state]?"
Then there's my point of view, which boils down to "Twenty-five thousand dollars or more for a car and you can't afford three hundred for a timing belt?"
The Miller-cycle is no-interference engine, so even if the belt brakes (unlikely) it won't result in engine damage.
That's my $0.02 . . . and to windowphobe's point "Twenty-five thousand dollars or more for a car and you can't afford three hundred for a timing belt?" - it's not question of being able to afford it but a question of willing to do something unnecessary and pay for it!
Tomek
And the customer smiled, because he'd already saved nearly a third of it.
Obviously this won't happen to everyone - not every engine is designed this way - but you really can't count on things failing right when you're pulling into the shop for an oil change, either.
And why is the timing belt good for 90K miles in CA and not in other states? They want you to go for service you don't really NEED and charge you good money for it. If your peace of mind is worth it to you then go for it. I wouldn't.
Tomek
Also has anyone purchased a Millenia (or any other Mazda for that matter) using a Ford A or X plan? If so, how did it work and how much did you save?
I looked on the Smart Shopper board, but didn't see any such topics for the Millenia.
Thanks!
Has anyone had their waterpump replaced? When did you have it done? I asked the dealer, and they told me not to worry about it with the 60k mile timing belt change.
Back in 1999 my water pump went out in my 1995L MM and the dealership did go ahead & changed the timing belt. I did have a warranty on the car but it only paid for the part that was broken (water pump). The timing belt cost me $450.
Also I just purchased a 2002P SE black wth the ivory interior for $22,500 this is the drive off price. Now I did trade in my 1995L which had a balance of $3100 with my bank. The car had some damage to the interior but it was silver which is popular & it only had 87k miles on it.
**To anyone,was this a good deal?**
I have a 98 Premium MM. Love it! I would like to protect the front end as I am on the highway frequently. Local Mazda dealer cost for a full front end bra is $119. LeBra website is at $92.99 for a full bra. I would rather simply get the top part of the bra to cover the hood instead of the wrap around bumper full size bra, but cannot seem to locate one. Do you know of any other sites I could check out???
Thanks in advance for your responses!!
Albeit, any model year Mill can have this feature added to the car for a nonimal install fee, unless installed personally.
jonbgood - I'd go with the new one, 2K in price difference, but you get full warranty and newer model year
Tomek
Don't worry about the depreciation, Mazda is absorbing it.
Frank
OTOH, you never know with car dealers!
Tomek
was it auto you drove?
Funny thing, 5 years ago 170hp was a lot... I remember 105 hp (?) passat gls with 2 liter 4. Times change (vide the 260hp Infinity).
I think what lets Millenia down (both P and S) is the auto tranny (far from Lexus-smooth) and lack of manual transmission. Just imagine what the Miller cycle engine could do when paired with a stickshift. This is what I miss the most from my Passat GLX - V6 with stickshift . . . unless I'm stuck in Boston traffic. Oh well, compromises.
Tomek
Maybe you should read the forums:
"Lexus ES 300"
and
"What's Wrong With Lexus???"
Tomek
So, this tranny is supposedly as efficient as manual transamission, hence better acceleration than with "regular" slushbox. I'm sure 1.8T Tiptronic would be similar in terms of accelleration to Millenia P.
0-60's are as follows:
A4 1.8T FWD CVT: 7.8 secs
A4 3.0L FWD CVT: 6.8 secs
Mazda Millenia P: ??
Mazda Millenia S: 8.2 secs??
My '95 Olds also shifts smoother under some conditions. Auto transmissions is one thing GM has under control. That said, I would consider my Millenia's shifting different, as opposed to wrong. My point above was that ES300 owners are griping about the shifting of their new Lexus'. I think in this type of car, we tend to get rather nitpicky for lack of something important to complain about.
Yep, you hit the nail on the head. When I think of the first car I had... that had some things to complaint about!!!
Tomek
I had posted it in the Oil Filter thread, and copied it over here.
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Long filters for Mazda Millenia P and S.
1-NAPA Gold 1356
2-Big A 92356
3-CarQuest 85356
4-Deutsch D-370
5-STP S-02867
6-Fram PH7317
7-Motorcraft FL822
8-Purolator L14620
9-Wix 51356
10-Bosch 3323
11-Castrol 7317 (looks like Wix)
12-Penske 7317 (looks like Wix)
13-A/C Delco PF2057
14-Lee LF2867
15-Champ PH2867
I think any Champion Lab manufactured filter with 2867 would also match, just a guess.
I didn't crosscheck Pure1, KN and others, but those two are also Champion.
An interesting sidenote. Many Japanese motorcycles use this filter too. That is where part of the information came from.
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" From Open Roads Forum
dan32240
New Member
Gastonia
Date Posted: Apr 08, 2002 8:40 PM
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I am retired from Wix filters and the Napa Gold is run on the same production line as the same Wix numbers.We made filters for catapillar,Big A Ford oem,Carquest,Texaco.Make Penske now and the Silver Napa is also a pretty good filter.Used to make filters for Cat diesels but they got to picky and left.Make a lot of heavy filters for all big rigs."
There was a following post confirming this one.
Thanks
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Frank