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Mazda Millenia

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  • I should not be responding to you but in any event here is the GOD living truth.I finally figured it out "YOU WANT THE MILLENIA BUT YOU JUST SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD IT".

    Folks that is the bottom line, but wait- We can all get together and start a fund call the "SAXON MILLENIA FUND", get enough money for the car and donate it to him so he can shut the f..k up.
  • I can tell you the shortcomings of a Maxima. I have one (2000 Maxima SE)...and I also have a Millenia, so can tell you my dislikes about it too. I have ownership experience. Maxima and Millenia are both great cars, but they are for totally different people.

    Maxima (Cons)
    1) Paint-horrible
    2) Interior-materials are not the best.
    3) Ride can be rough (SE)

    Millenia (Cons)
    1) Auto tranny
    2) Crammed interior
    3)Steering is overboosted
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I haven't owned a Maxima. But back in August when I was test driving and comparing several cars, I did test drive 2001 Max SE, GXE and GLE. I was sure I wanted a Maxima from all I had read about it. If the sales manager had come down another $500, I would have ended up with a Maxima GLE. In my comparison, I found the Maxima to ride very hard, somewhat jerky. And there was far more noise intrusion from the tires than I would have expected. I liked the interior, except the clock looked out of place, and my wife's first reaction to the hardness of the driver seat in the SE was of astonishment. Otherwise, except for some styling quirks, I liked it and made a bid.

    To answer your "cons" on the Millenia. At first my transmission seemed to shift strangely. But now, with close to 4600 miles on the odometer, it is completely smooth. I am not sure of the reason for that, unless it electronically reprogrammed itself. As for the interior being cramped, it feels more open and airy to me from a driving position, than the other cars I tested. My only complaint there is the width of the opening between the brake pedal, and the console. I do not have especially wide feet, but when wearing my canvas walking shoes, the transition from brake to gas seems a little narrow. The back seat has less foot and leg room than my Olds 88, and for more than two passengers back there, it would be cramped. But the design of the seats, and fold down rear seat console make it appear to be designed for two from the beginning, with a third person in a pinch. Mostly I put a blanket back there to protect the leather, and it serves fine for my dog to travel with us. My kids are adults and gone from home now.

    The steering seems just right to me, but I have been acustomed to large American sedans, and they have highly boosted steering. Compared to Japanese and German cars it probably has a lighter feel, but compared to the American cars I have owned, it drives and handles much better. A lot of people are comparing the Millenia to higher powered cars and rejecting it on that basis. I find it more a highway cruiser than a hot rod, but very adequately powered under all driving conditions.

    You are right, they are very different cars, aimed at different types of people. The Millenia gives me the feeling of driving an elegant car, where the Maxima felt more common to me. You can see from all this that I am more the Millenia type than Maxima. But I would certainly consider the Max a very nice car, and for those who either need, or think they need more power, it would be an excellent choice.

    They also both have excellent reliability, so that was a moot point. I will keep the car until it is worn out, so depreciation is of no importance to me. And at more than $3000 less than the best cash deal I could get on the GLE, choosing it over the others was a no brainer.
  • Saxonni...I would love to know where the $22.5K Millenia S you talk about is at...

    I personally do not find the Millenia to be cramped...

    I'll admit...I never felt like the base engine had quite enough power...but that is why I traded in my 99 Base for the S. I have let a lot of my friends drive the car...they all love driving it...sometimes when I've had a few too many drinks...the sober ones fight over who will get to drive it.
  • Take yourself to the Maxima board where people actually might care about what you have to say. It's quite obvious NO ONE here does.
  • When you put a Maxima and a MM side to side, like I do in my garage everyday. You notice that the MM is a longer,narrow and short. While the Maxima is not quite as long but it is much wider and taller. The wider wheel base and taller roof in the Maxima makes for a lot of interior room. After I drive my Maxima and get into my wife's MM it feels crammed in there. That's because it is! compared to my car.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I agree about the interior, but the funny thing is that I kind like it. It is not as spacious as many but it fits well.
  • and trying to get in there to buckle two kids into car seats is some feat. Because of the low roofline I have to literally get inside the car to buckle my kids in. Getting the car seats into the Maxima is much easier. But then again...with the MM you give up some practicality for some great styling.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    To help clear up the size comparison, I looked up the dimensions for both the Millenia and Maxima. They are as follows.

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    Millenia:

    Exterior dimensions (inches)
    Wheelbase 108.3
    Overall length 191.6
    Overall width 69.7
    Height 54.9
    Track front & rear 59.8

    Interior dimensions (inches)
    Front Headroom 37.9
    Rear headroom 36.5
    Front legroom 43.3
    Rear legroom 34.1
    Front Shoulder room 55.1
    Rear Shoulder room 54.2

    Capacities (cubic feet)
    Passenger volume 91
    Cargo Volume 13

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Maxima:

    INTERIOR & EXTERIOR DIMENSIONS (inches)
    -Wheelbase ----------------------108.3
    -Overall Length ------------------190.5
    -Overall Width ---------------------70.3
    -Overall Height --------------------56.5
    -Head Room (front/rear) --------40.5/37.4
    -Leg Room (front/rear) ----------44.8/36.2
    -Hip Room (front/rear) ----------55.3/53.7
    -Shoulder Room (front/rear) --56.9/56.2

    VEHICLE CAPACITIES
    -Passenger Capacity----102.5 Cubic Feet
    -Cargo Capacity ------------15.1 Cubic Feet

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    It can be seen from those dimensions, that the Millenia is about one inch longer, one half inch narrower and one and one half inches lower than the Maxima. The only significant difference is in the height. The styling does make it appear smaller.

    On the inside, the only big difference again is in the height, with the Maxima having two and one half more inches of front headroom. The rear headroom only gives it a one inch advantage. It also has an additional one and a half inches of front legroom with the seat all the way back, for the super long legged folks. And two inches more rear leg room for the rear seat passengers assuming the front seats aren't pulhed all the way back.

    As for the interior width, the front seat passenger and more importantly the driver, would have less than one additional inch in the Maxima. The rear seat is two inches narrower in the Millenia (one inch per side). All of these but the front seat headroom are minimal. The large difference in interior capacity, from 91 cubic feet to 102.5 cubic feet is again largely due to the front seat headroom. The Millenia, due to it's beautiful styling also has considerably more tumblehome on the sides, and a sharply raked windshield which cut into the volume. The rounded rear styling probably accounts for the difference in trunk capacity, which is about equvilant to two gallon jugs of milk.

    Perception of size has a lot to do with the size of the person. I am 5' 11", 180 pounds, and the Millenia does not feel the least bit cramped for me as the driver, or front seat passenger. I have not ridden in the back seat, but it does feel more cozy than that of the Maxima. All in all I would sum up the difference, that the Millenia has an open, airy but personal feeling interior. While the Maxima feels like a nicely appointed family sedan. That is not a put down, I almost bought one. And if you buy a Maxima without a sunroof, that will make a big difference in headroom. You don't have that choice with the Millenia.
  • Go sit in a new Altima. That thing is HUGE inside. Bigger than the Maxima, and Millenia. It is the perfect size for a family car and in V6 form it will give a MM S a whipping. Although the interior of the Alty is filled with cheap plastic.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I agree on the size of the Altima. But I have checked them out, and the interior seems cheap and hard to me. The door panels are especially unappealing to me. I almost waited for them to come out before I bought my Millenia. Now, after checking them out I am glad I went ahead with the Millenia purchase.

    Another car that is very large inside, about 106.6 cu ft, is the Avalon. When I was looking at Toyota's at the '02 Camry introduction, I was offered a cloth seat Avalon for $24500 out the door. I couldn't get past the design of the instrument panel though, and saw no advantage to it other than interior size. Millenia's aren't the only ones with big discounts.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    but I just want to point out that the way to get rid of a supposed troll is to ignore him. Posting angry responses just invites him to continue.

    The personal attacks need to stop right here. If any of you need to continue the conversation, you will have to do it off-line.

    If anyone has anything else to say about this situation, feel free to email me.

    Any further posts in that vein will necessarily be removed.

    Please carry on and pardon the interruption - I needed to make these points after all that ugliness occurred.

    Thank you.

    Pat
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  • Hello again fellow Millenia owners, I just want to share some info about the replacement light bulbs for my Millenia. Few months back I bought a pair of CATZ Galaxy White 9006 (this is for '97-'00 Model, not sure about the '95-'96 an '01'02, since it uses projector type). This bulb is rated at 4300K (kalvin, I think) and it cost me $59/pair. I have to tell you that this bulbs made a tremendeus improvement to the brightness of the lights. The beam coming out from the headliights is now almost a white beam instead of the yellowish color of the original bulbs; definitely I don't see any yellowish color at all. I'd say the improvement in brightness is about 60% compared to the original bulbs; that's according to my eyes. For $65/pair after shipping, this is a very cheap way to upgrade our beloved Millenias. It's very easy to install and during night time, you'll find a new enjoyment in driving your Millenias.

    There's an even brighter 5000K bulbs made by PIAA; called Super Plasma, but it cost about $30 more and I don't know exactly how it looks in terms of beam color and brightness. Check out this link for more info of the Millenia's bulb


    http://www.autobulbdepot.com/fr_prodindex.tpl?cart=3096637511121121

    and here for bulbs 101


    http://www.autobulbdepot.com/fr_prodindex.tpl?cart=3096637511121121


    If anyone wants to see the difference between the original bulb and the CATZ bulb, please let me know. I'll swap one out with the original bulb and will take a digital shot of it with my new Fuji Digital Cam :-).


    cheers

  • adam68adam68 Posts: 59
    Have had a '95, '97 and '99....lease is up
    in 2/03 and would love to be able to get another...
  • At the end of this year a new Mazda6 is coming out and the top of the line version will move upmarket to fill in for the departing MM. This one supposed to have 219HP 3.0V6 with Vvti, Navigation, Leather, Triptonic Auto or 6-speed manual, side curtain airbag, 17" wheels and best of all it's going to be fun to drive, just like any other Mazdas. Sedan is coming out in november, a hatchback 5-door six months later and a wagon version a year later. There might even be an MPS version of this car.
  • I came across a 95 millena and he is asking $4400. The car has 95000 miles, and the radio doesnt work the radio turns on and the antennae goes up but no sound to the speakers. The car got rear endend and got a salvage title. Do you think this is a good price, I think I can get him down to 3 grand or 3500. I hope i can get a millenia, I really like the design and the class. All I really have to spend is about six grand so this looks like a good deal. What do you guys think?
  • I assume that the car's been repaired right? How do you know for sure that it's been rear-ended, not a head/side collision. I guess rear-ended damage is better than front. How does it ride, especially at over 70mph, any rattles, how's the door/trunk closes. Off-course you can't expect the car to be perfect. For me, as long as it drives fine, no pulling to the side or vibrating, I would get it for $3K-$4K.
  • Yeah the car has been repaired, I havent driven the car yet, but what do you guys think about the radio, plus the tires are low he says. Do you think that I could get him down to 3 grand from 4400 he is asking? I would really like to get this car for the price, but I might just buy a used 95 altima or g20? What are your thoughts?
  • I have a 99 Millenia S and love it. But from what I heard from a number of 1995 owners, you could be buying yourself a money pit. If it is an 'S', make sure the supercharger is good (huge bucks!). O2 sensors and the tranny could be costly also. If the milage is low it might be a good deal. An aftermarket radio should fit, and wouldn't be so costly.

    Good Luck,
    Bob
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