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  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    On Tueasday I'll call my dealer service dept and ask them for the price of spark plug replacement on 01 S ... and 01 P.
  • Hi fairwood....how much did it cost on ebay ??
  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    For 2001 Millesnia S:
     - sparkplugs (platinum) installed: $220,-
     - 60K miles service incl. sparkplugs $450,-
     - timing belt $900,- all inclusive (service advisor said they recommend changing it at 75K miles, 60K was "too early", but he has also seen folks "pushing their luck to over 100K miles and doing OK with that") - so if I keep my car that long, I'll push my luck.
    Tomek
  • Hi nzigma, all figures are in U.S. dollars. I paid $20 for the remote and a further $7 for shipping and insurance to Canada. The actual postage on the padded envelope was 85 cents!! Many eBay sellers make their real profit on the inflated shipping and handling/insurance charges. I have seen identical remotes (identical as far as part numbers are concerned) sell for as little as $8. and as high as $51. Recently there were identical remotes for sale with price spreads as I just quoted. The logic there is beyond my feable brain to comprehend. No one has bothered to respond on the other web site about how much they paid to have plugs etc. replaced but that has been answered above. And fwatson, stop gloating, I doubt if anyone here purchased a 2.3L supercharged engine in order to get to 60mph 1.5 seconds faster than a P version. Sheesh!!! I bought mine used a little over 3 months ago (2000 MM S) and had never heard of a Millenia before. I had vowed to never buy a Mazda after watching that little Lord Fauntelroy kid in the black suit and tie look into the camera a say "Zoom.zoom". I vowed I would crawl across broken glass in my bare skin to turn the TV off if necessary to shut him up. Never say never. I had decided against buying a 2001 Nissan Maxima and passed the Mazda dealer a few blocks away. It was a Sunday and the dealer was closed so I dropped in knowing that salesmen would not be all over me like a cheap suit. Saw my car and was truly impressed with its looks both inside and out, it even looked solid and well made. I researched the hell out of it on the internet that afternoon and night. It was in my garage by mid week after getting undercoated and a few minor repairs underside that my mechanic pointed out. Still very thrilled with my purchase but looking to the future with some trepidation after reading about oxygen sensors, timing belts, TCS lights, check-engine lights etc. all requiring major expense. Sure I would rather buy regular gas instead of premium but if you have to ask, you can't afford the car, right? Yeah, right. fairwood
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    Just kiddin' in a way, but I disagree with you on this.
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    " I doubt if anyone here purchased a 2.3L supercharged engine in order to get to 60mph 1.5 seconds faster than a P version. Sheesh!!!"
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    If not for more performance, I see no reason to buy a supercharged engine. The SC serves no other purpose than to raise the horsepower. I was subjected to the sales pitch concerning the 2.3S as well as the 6 disc in dash Bose stereo. I rejected both as well as other costly items, because after close to 50 years of owning and playing with cars I am all too aware of complex mechanical devices failing and costing a fortune to repair or replace. Live and learn. Oh, the standard CD/Cassette/AM/FM system is great on it's own.

    Anyway, $220 isn't nearly as bad as $500. But it sure is a lot more than $48 for six plugs at $8 each. Of course that assumes a person can change them himself. If not, any even mediocre mechanic could.

    What's funny to me on the power question, is that even the MM gets to 60 quicker than most cars of the "musclecar era" of the '60's and early '70's. The MMP is far from a slug. OTOH I remember being a high testosterone boy in need of an ego boost, and played with my share of hot rods.

    BTW, I am well aware you are not a kid from earlier discussion, and was not inferring that. ;-)
  • Thanks fairwood. Could you possibly give me the part number as reflected on the back.I have a 2001S...now the ones on sale at ebay, have a different model number at the rear compared to mine. Does anyone know if a 2000 remote is OK for a 2001. The dealer here is quoting $ 120 for a new one. Probably a 500% margin.
  • I have a few questions about the Millenia:

    1.Does 1996 models mast antenna(radios)have better clearness than the 97-02 in-glass antenna?

    2. How often does the 96 spark plugs cause problems?

    3.Are the projector lights any good on brightness compared to 97-00?

    4. Can the 2.5L use regular(87) are does it have to use premium? using regular all the time will it mess up the engine or lose performance?

    5. Does the 96L come with rear seat heater ducts in the 4-seasons package?

    I dont know which one I should pick the 96L or a 98L both are fully loaded. I am trying to see which one has the better radio performance and more relible. I want be buying the car till Dec. or Jan.

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I can only answer 2 and 4 with any certainty.

    2-The problem was with the spark plug wires, and was the only major problem I know of with either MM engine. It is otherwise rated "Outstanding" by Consumer Reports.

    4-Premium gasoline is only "recommended" not "required" for the 2.5 engine. I have run 87 octane exclusively for 12000 miles with no hint of any problem, or noticable difference in performance from the 93 octane that the dealer put in the car new. No knock, no ping, no lag in acceleration. It runs great.
  • nzigma1: The keyless remote part number for the 2001 and 2002 is different than the 2000 and earlier numbers. I believe (but not 100% positive) that the same remote number is good for at least 1997 to 2000. I check out most remotes on eBay out of curiousity now and have noticed that most remotes advertised for 2001/2002 have a different part number quoted and most will quote both the U.S. and Canadian part numbers. I will check this out in more detail within a day aand get back to you. fairwood
    P.S. As a fellow Canadian I am sure the highest octane you can buy up here is 91. Sunoco has those higher blends but they also have up to 10% ethanol and I refuse to use any gas that has ethanol as part of the mix. I probably stated in an earlier post that I firmly believe that ethanol plays hell with neoprene seals and gaskets. Just a mental block I have I am sure but there it is.
  • nzigma1: The part numbers on my remote are:
    FCC I.D. (USA) KPU41048 and for Canada: 2288 101 275 made by Naldec Corporation, Japan. Only one remote came with my used 2000 MMS and I made sure the one I bid on at eBay had the same numbers. I have had a number of cars with remotes and only once did I ever need the second remote but it is a cheap insurance if I should lose mine at the mall or at a drunken party. Yeah, right. I could call my wife and she could bring the other one. My wife's van has two of course and she has one and the other is on the front hall key rack which I grab when I am driving. fwatson has a 2001P so he could confirm the similarity or difference of part numbers on his remote. fairwood
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    2001 MMP

    Model 41701

    P/N: TC86 67 5RY

    Naidec Corporation Japan
  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    For horsepower, yes, but also more torque, different (stiffer) suspension, rear anti-roll bar (flatter cornering) which is absent from a P, and bigger wheels / tires.
    ... and to treat yourself to something nice(er), some people like the supercharger whistle :-)

    When it comes to stereo systems, the sound is very important to me (I have a home theater system with a REL sub, for those who know what a REL is...) so I went with Bose.
    But that just me.
    Tomek
  • Thanks fairwood, fwatson...mine matches with fwatson's. Have not seen anything on ebay as yet. Will keep a sharp lookout though.. no way am I going to pay US 120 for this contraption.

    Yeah fairwood....I live in Vancouver, I paid $ 2.85 US per gallon for 91 Oct just the other day at Petro Canada. I'm just sticking to what the manual says. No Sunoco in BC.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I think it's great if a person wants to pay for more performance, and can justify it, even if it is just for gratification. But as is becoming obvious, that performance comes at a cost beyond initial purchase price.

    In addition to higher fuel and routine maintenance costs, those tires and wheels will also cost considerably more to maintain and/or replace if and when the time comes.

    I don't question the choice of MMS if it is truly what you prefer. But if I had been more interested in performance than overall style and quality, I would have gone back to the Nissan dealer and bought the Maxima. It has more power than the S, without the complexity of supercharger to get it. Yes, the MM has a more sophisticated rear suspension and rides much better than the Max.

    Don't get me wrong. I do understand the overall appeal of Millenia. That is why I put my money on it instead of a more powerful but otherwise less appealing car.
  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    Well, you've treated yourself to soemthing you enjoy (and no, I didn't like the Maxima after extensive test drives).
    You've paid much more for the Mill P than you would, say, for a Hyundai Accent. It'll cost you more in taxes, maintenance, gas, tires etc., etc. - above and beyond what those items would've been for Accent. But I guess you got more and it was worth the extra $$$ - just like what I paid extra for was worth the extra $$$ to me.
    So we're exactly in the same boat :-)
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    And that can be extrapolated to include Corvettes, and on up through Bimmers and then the Maybach 62. If the price of admission is worth it to you, a person could spend half a million and basically still have "only" a car.

    At the prices we paid, all MM's are a fantastic bargain compared to anything else at anywhere near the price.

    Enjoy yours, I certainly do mine.
  • Does the 97-02 Mazda Millenia in-glass antenna pick up far away stations better than the 95-96 Mast antenna? And does anybody have problems with their in-glass antenna picking up stations?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE!

    ALLEN
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I wish I could give you a more definitive answer, but I haven't owned a MM with a mast antenna. All I can tell you is that the in glass antenna on my MM does at least as well on reception as the mast antennas I have had on other brands of cars. I currently own a '95 Olds 88 in addition to my MM, and the reception is better on the MM. Problem is that I can't say whether that is due to a beter tuner in the MM radio, or the antenna.

    Hopefully someone with experience with both an older and new MM will give you more help on that. But the radio tuners would still play a role in any comparison.
  • I agree with fwatson, the in-glass antenna is as good as any mast antenna I have ever owned and that covers well over two dozen vehicles over the past 50+ years. The in-glass antenna is far, far superior to the mast on my wife's 1998 Plymouth van. I don't notice fading when turning corners, going under bridges etc. Maybe it's the Bose system with its more sensitive head end circuitry. Incidentally, I have looked carefully (I think) and nowhere can I find the Bose name on my system although it is the original and looks identical to Bose systems that I have seen photographs of on other Mazda web sites. The 2000 and earlier units only held one CD but the 2001 and 2002 had a 6 CD changer built in. I seldom play tapes in the car anymore and have tried the CD player with only one CD just to see how it performed. One at a time is more than enough for me. You do have a 6 CD changer in your 2001 don't you, fwatson? fairwood
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    No, I have the (not a Bose?) standard system. And in referrence to

    "I have looked carefully (I think) and nowhere can I find the Bose name on my system although it is the original and looks identical to Bose systems that I have seen photographs of on other Mazda web sites."

    the standard sound system also looks identical to the Bose, with no name on it. I haven't used the Cassette player, but have put hundreds of CD's through one at a time, and they play and sound great. I really wonder what the difference is between the standard and Bose systems other than possibly higher power output in the Bose.
  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    I have 6 CD changer and Bose (it does say Bose on it); reception is good - better than Passat GLX (short mast active antenna), same as Chevy Venture (antenna also in glass on the windscreen).
  • ddwzfddwzf Posts: 10
    89 or 93?

    The previous owner told me it's better to use 89. Is that true? what grade gas you guys use?

    thanks
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    will work fine. If your car knocks or pings on regular, go to 93. I don't think it will though, because I have run 87 exclusively for 12000 miles.
    Also, there is a TSB out advising not to use 93 in the P because of carbon buildup. Check post #2536 of 2584 by misty8

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    (Bulletin No: 01-027/02

    APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS

    All 1995 - 2002 Millenia models with 2.5L V6 (KL)

    Description

    After a cold start, MIL comes on with DTC P0300 to P0306 stored in the memory. In most cases, this concern may be caused by misfire occurring in one cylinder during idle. The use of premium fuel (high-octane fuel) may be allowing carbon deposits to accumulate on the exhaust valve seat, causing momentary insufficient compression.

    To correct this concern, remove carbon deposits using a suitable top engine cleaner.

    Note: After removing the carbon deposits, be sure to advise the customer to use lower-octane fuel (87 or 89 octane) to help prevent future recurrences.)

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  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    Has anybody else noticed that Kia has stolen the original Amati name for the Millenia and stuck an "n" in it to escape copywrite infringement. What a slap in the face by the Koreans.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/03169/193654.stm
  • No matter what they call it, it is still a Kia. 'Nough said.
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 332
    1995-96 has both mast (electric antenna) and rear glass grid antenna--a true diversity system. 1997-2002 rear glass only, with the diversity system selecting from the left or right grid in the back glass. Reception was better on my 96 vs my 98, yet both were very good. I like the look of the one piece projector beams on the 95/96 better than the two piece (headlamp and side parking lamp are separate pieces) on the 97-00. Illumination is fine with both, though my wife said when I was following her in my 96, she remarked how little headlight glare the lights projected.

    2010 Pilot EXL-RES, 2013 Accord EX

  • There is a big difference with the Bose and stock system.The Millenia I leased had the stock radio which I think is one of the best stock radio I have heard so far, however, I listened to the Mazda Bose and it is definitly a step up from the stock radio.

    Just to add- when I was leasing the Millennia the sales person wanted me to get the Bose and the "s" model. I told him no because I am in this for only three years, the base car is sufficient enough for me.
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 332
    You didn't have to buy the 'S' to get the Bose radio. My '96 had both the Bose and Cold Weather (heated seats, heavy duty wiper motor, starter, battery) package. I tried to find the same combination when I bought my '98, but could only get the Bose. A car with the Cold Weather pkg was not available. Both cars were not 'S' models. Actually thought about upgrading to the 'S' when I bought the '98, but couldn't justify the huge price difference for a marginal increase in performance.

    2010 Pilot EXL-RES, 2013 Accord EX

  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I haven't listened to the Bose, but if it is better than the stock audio system, it must be outstanding.

    I spent 4 hours on the Regal lot in Lakeland, Fl last Friday while getting my daughters Odyssey van repaired (recall for a bad ignition switch). Excellent treatment by everyone there.

    That gave me a lot of time to check out the Acuras and Accords. The TL is an impressive car, but as I was looking over an RL, I couldn't help but notice that the right side of the hood did not sit level with the fender about midway. That rather surprised me seeing as it was one they chose to put in the showroom. I thought about you and the transmission problem that is so prevalent on the TL forums. Good luck with that. BTW, with just me and my wife at home now, I'd take the CL. ;-)

    Now I better get back to MM's before Pat sends me another email for getting off base.
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