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Mazda Millenia



  • dkrabdkrab Posts: 77
    What's attractive about it is that I can't find anything this nice and this clean for that price. What's unattractive is that it is too much above trade-in value. Another negative is this car seems to have had repetitive problems with valve cover gaskets leaking oil. Is this a common complaint with the 2.5 V6? They use this engine in almost everything they make. It seems to have a good reputation as far as reliability goes. It isn't the most powerful V6, though.

    You say $9000 seems very high to you. What would you consider to be a good price? Car has 64K miles, has service records, recenty 60K service including timing belt. Needs tires within a year. Needs front end alignment. Needs valve cover gaskets again (I think they used an RTV sealant and did not clean the seal surface properly). Needs a rear main oil seal, which the car lot would have to fix before I'd buy. Has had the oil seals at the cam shafts replaced recently. Man, that's a lot of oil leak problems. Is this typical of Mazda 2.5? Interior is virtually new. Exterior suffers from parking lot accident repair, but it's not obvious. Structurally it's perfect. Had it inspected at Mazda dealer, and they found nothing wrong except for what I mention above. Engine runs great, trans shifts flawlessly. Trans fluid looked perfect. No sludge in engine. Brakes and all other fluids are good. You can tell it has not been abused.
  • obioha1obioha1 Posts: 27
    I was wondering if going over by 10,000 miles for the changing of the timing belt is a safe thing. 70,000 miles as opposed to 60,000 miles. Any input would be greatly appreciated
  • jayhawk96jayhawk96 Posts: 5
    The suggested change is at 60,000 miles. Going to 70,000 miles should not be a problem. I have seen timing belts go over 100,000 miles. It's not a good idea to go that far, but an extra 10,000 miles shouldn't cause a problem. If you have an extended warranty the warranty company may give you a hard time about covering certain repairs if the maintenance schedule is not followed according to the manual. Hope this helps.
  • I did like the Millenia S. Taking all things into consideration I ended up purchasing a VW Passatt. The Millenia had more luxury features and a more powerfull engine however the deals were identical in terms of dollars and the Passatt had that european driving experience, superior safety and airbags and it was newly designed last year not in the last year of production.
    Good luck with your Millenia's!
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    "and the Passatt had that european driving experience,"

    Interesting. You seem to put all Eurpean cars in one group, and any others as inferior to drive.

    Does a Yugo possess that "European driving experience"? How about a Citroen 2CV?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    The guy had a reasonable post. I may not agree with his choice, but geez, give him some room. The Passat is a nice car, but I don't think it's a direct competitor to the Mill.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I ask what I would consider a reasonable question, and in a polite manner. I really am curious why someone would consider all cars from a given country or region best in any catagory. I believe if you reread my post, I made no reference to anything other than why he considers all European cars superior to drive, as compared to cars from Japan or USA, or anyplace else.

    I agree the Passat is a nice car, and I hope he enjoys it. But being from Europe gives it no monopoly on being a good car to drive.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    is a term coined by the auto mags. I think it's generally used to describe BMW's handling characteristics: tight (but not bouncy) and a good road feel (but not jarring).
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    "tight (but not bouncy) and a good road feel (but not jarring)."

    Interestingly, that describes the handling characteristics of my Millenia to a T.
  • obioha1obioha1 Posts: 27
    the other day i was searching the web and i found a description of the millenia found in japan it had this mazda telematics dvd based navigation set up. It also had internet interface and was free for those who had this option. It seemed like an awesome thing and I just wonder why mazda didn't provide this for their north american millenias. I mean the '01 millenia is a great car and an available DVD navigation system with this internet based set up would've made it more of a contender. I think it is like the system that mercedes will employ in their upcoming vehicles.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    I think you hit on one of Mazda's main downfalls when it comes to the Millenia.

    The two gripes I see most, are, #1 it needs more power. And #2 it lacks a Nav system, or other personal favorite of the poster.

    Had they offered a 3.0L, 200+ HP V-6 when Toyota, Honda and Nissan did, I think they would have had a huge market. They sure trounce the others in styling and are second to nothing in overall quality. One other complaint is due to the beautiful styling. It is very low with a lot of tumblehome on the side windows. ( compare the slab sides of the Avalon and Camry to the sides of the Millenia). This causes it to not be a great mommymobile due to the difficulty of inserting and removing kiddy seats.

    Throw in the Nav as an option, and voila instant luxury car (it already is to me). I neither need nor want either of those, so I am thrilled with my '01 P.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,810
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  • jonbgoodjonbgood Posts: 157
    Has anybody checked out the "true cost of ownership" of the Millenia. Sure does better when you reflect "real world" pricing. Who has ever paid TMV for a Millenia? When was the last time they were sold without some sort of dealer incentive or rebate? I believe now the current deal is $5k back through rebates/dealer incentive. That makes the Millenia a real contender as far as value. If you reduce the total cost down to $31,528 from $36,528(over 5 yrs) the Millenia compares favorably to the Acura TL @ $33,928 and the Maxima GLE @ $33,364.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    That is my problem with the TCO too. By using the TMV rather than the price available in the real world, they are defeating the term "True Cost Of Ownership". It should instead be called "Inflated Guestimate of Ownership".

    I have no problem with the current TCO program, if they would also allow you to enter the real price you can purchase the car for, in place of the TMV they are using. The TMV they use is $5000 above what I actually paid for mine. And the "Purchase Price" is over $6000 too high. My OTD price was less than $23000. Not the $29000+ that the TCO is showing.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    TMV is supposed to accurately reflect the going price of a vehicle in your area (by zip code).

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  • cepheuuscepheuus Posts: 6
    Hi everyone! I have a 2000 Millenia S (the Millenium edition) with about 30k miles on it. I knew there was a scheduled maintenance coming up, so I called up the dealer & she said it would cost about $ 650!!! Is that ok? It sure sounds like a whole lotta money to me!!!
    I also looked at the TCO, and it said the average annual insurance costs are about $ 1200 here in MI. But the LOWEST I could find was 1700, & believe me I looked!!! I was wondering if anyone here got that kinda premiums? (I haven't got a ticket in my life!!!) ;-)
    What are your experiences??
  • nvedraninvedrani Posts: 58
    cepheuus...I have the exact same model (in silver), as far as the 30 k maintenance, I have no idea, (only have 19k), but $650 seems ridiculously high!! far as insurance, I am in Mass. and my ins. premium is about $1180...depending on where you live in MI I would think you could get similar rates as they are the exact same car - although, if I registered in Boston (where I work), mine would be closer to $2,000....pick your poison...good luck!
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    $650.00 does sound like a lot. Take a look in your owner's manual and see what services are needed for the 30K limit. I think most of these you could do yourself and just tell the dealer what services you actually want( trans fluid change, oil change, etc.). If you go to the service dept. and tell them to do the 30K service they will do a lot of checking which adds considerably to the labor costs. Most cars do not need that much work at 30K. Air filter is one thing that you can do for yourself, e.g.
    How do you like the M after one year of wonership? Any troubles? What kind of mpg are you getting with mostly highway driving? What engine do you have (2.3L)? Do you pay $850 for insurance every 6 months? What is your age?
  • acabral1acabral1 Posts: 122
    My six month premium is $245.00 for a '01 Mill S. I live in the D.C Metro area (VA)
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