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Looking to buy. Answers please.

I'm looking to sell my beloved 02' F150. I would like to say I have outgrown it but I haven't. I'm looking for an American made luxury sports car, so I was interested in knowing some information on the Lincoln LS's. First, I really like the looks of this car off the bat. I would like to have one with a V8 but I could possibly be persuaded to one with a V6 (either way it's an mpg improvement).

I would like to know common problems. I read about leaking valve cover gaskets, COPS(these are a problem on f150's too don't worry), and something about a window regulator. Is there anything I'm missing?

I would also like to know how much would I be looking to spend for one that's hopefully in the 75,000 mile range, V8 with the sport package, I'd like the earliest year as possible but wold like to stay around 6, 7, or $8,000. I do not know how much I could sell my truck but I think it would be around that.
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  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    Sorry I forgot to mention that I went back in time and looked at older posts that were now about 2 years old and this is what I came up with.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    They got steadily better so the later years are better (03-06). They're great cars to drive but you can expect a few expensive repairs. However, they can be bought so cheap it can make it worthwhile.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    I figured it was going to be something like that. The same goes for the 97-03 f150's.

    What do you consider an expensive repair. I think I can save a lot of money doing it myself if it's anything less than pulling the motor or trans.

    I'm just looking around right now I won't be able to do this until the summer as I'm in school until May and I'd like to get back to work before I make a purchase. Have to sell the old rig too.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    I don't remember dollar figures, but expect to replace the COPs (coil on plug) at some point. Can be DIY but it's a little bit of a pain. Valve cover gaskets need to be replaced on some early models (pre 03 I think) and that's also a pain but should have already been done on most vehicles - just check to make sure there's no oil leak.

    The cooling fan on the pre-03 models is hydraulic and can be expensive to repair/replace. In some cases the tranny valve body has to be replaced (03-04 I think) but again that should have already been done.

    Anything else is probably minor. If you go with the 03-06 and make sure the tranny shifts ok you're probably in good shape.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    COPS are nothing new to me. The modular V8's have them and I've had problems with them getting wet and arcing causing them to fail. I take it that bad valve cover gaskets cause oil to leak into the spark plug galleys? Same with head gaskets on my 150 leaking coolant. How would I go about checking the valve cover for any leaks or if the gaskets were replaced?

    On the post 03' models are the fans electric? I'm hoping that I can sell my truck for a considerable amount more than a Lincoln LS in case something does go wrong I have money to put into it, and of course to have money to do what I have planned to do to the car.

    What do you mean by the tranny shifting ok? Avoid one that shifts real firm or something else?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    It's not the COPs themselves - it's getting to them that's difficult. Yes, the valve cover gaskets leak oil in the plug wells which cause the COPS to fail more quickly, but they can fail even without that. Basically just look for oil in the plug wells or anywhere else near the valve covers.

    Yes, - post 03 uses electric fans so that eliminates one potential costly repair.

    Just make sure it shifts normally and doesn't hesitate, stick or shift really hard. If there is a problem it should be obvious. Most of the tranny problems occured during the warranty period so if it had a problem it was most likely already fixed. If you know a Ford service mgr they can run an OASIS report on the VIN to see what's been fixed on it already.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    I understand the difficulty and the finesse needed to get back to them. COPs would be the least of my worries at this point.

    Let's say that I went the 00'-02' and the hydraulic fan fails. Is there a way to install e-fans to get rid of the hydraulic fan?

    Ok, I will probably have my brother with me when I go for a test drive he knows more than I do about cars. It sounds like that the bulk of these cars problems, if I get one with around the mileage I want, should have already been taken care of if it was properly maintained.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    I've heard some that used electric fans but the reason they didn't use them from the factory was that there wasn't enough juice available for whatever reason. But it's certainly a possibility.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    Ok I just posted my truck on craigslist so I'll be able to get a better price range for an LS once I get some replies to my ad.

    I have a question regarding the double din receiver capabilities. I have one in my truck now and love it. Will I be able to put a double din receiver into this car, will it fit?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    I think so - it uses the standard Ford double-din "Brick" radio. But if it has the THX system you might not want to change it out.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    Ok, because I had to cut some of the dash to make one fit in my truck and it had the standard Ford double din. What is so good about the THX system? I would like to be able to plug a usb thumb drive into it or an ipod or something so I don't have a plethora of cd's to haul around.

    Did certain cars come with the THX system. If so which ones?
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 892
    It's a double din, I've seen some with THX, mostly '06's, I'm not sure what other years. I'd stick with 2nd gen (03-06). Valve covers were fixed by then, among other things.

    I have an '05 with the V6 I've had for 2 years with no problems. I did replace the stereo, and have been using the usb with the thumb drive like you want to,
    It's great plugging in a month of music and not changing out CD's. :D ;)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    It was optional on all of them - you should see the logo somewhere. It has more power and more, better speakers and was custom tuned to the interior. But it won't do mp3s off of a thumb drive.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    That's the year that I am looking for. Is the THX system good enough to where I won't want to put in a pair of subs and speakers in the doors?

    Question regarding the V6. I really want a V8 but does the V6 still have good pep. I want a car that has performance but luxury. I don't want European and I don't want a Cadillac. I heard the V6 is more reliable, but I really want a V8!
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 892
    Some LS's came with a subwoofer. I assume the one's with the THX did. I'm not sure how good the door speakers are but they are easy to replace. The THX also has speakers (I think they are tweeters) in the console. The V6 has 230 horsepower and is adequate, good passing power. It's obviously not as smooth and powerful as the V8. The 5-speed auto keeps the revs up so the power is usable. My LS seems faster than the V8 1995 T-Bird it replaced. I do miss the sound and smoothness of the V8, though.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    That's what I figured the THX system was, navigation, extra speakers, and a subwoofer. I had a pretty good system in my truck. I'd like a nice one tucked into the truck of this car when and if I get one too. I'm still up in the air about the V6 or V8. For price reasons I may get the V6. It's more of a look that I'm going for and I just haven't found it yet.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    The audiophile system had higher power and subs (and the console speakers in the early models). It was pretty good on it's own.

    The THX system is similar but uses higher quality components and, most importantly, the system is tuned to each specific vehicle (including making changes to the vehicle interior in some cases). The result is a very high quality, clean sound. It will not deliver thumping bass - that's not what it was designed for.

    Only way to really know is to listen to it since everyone's taste for music is different.
  • jmtiseojmtiseo Posts: 10
    Thank you for your assistance so far. I'm going to have to wait until I find one to test drive first. Kinda hard to do now that I am down at school.
  • dslamadslama Posts: 1
    Can anyone tell me if the LS has a Traction-Loc Rear End?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    No, it does not and it's not readily interchangeable with other Ford differentials. It uses electronic traction control. It has been done but it's not easy or cheap.
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