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BMW 5-Series Sedans

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  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    For the record, I don't own a BMW. I almost replaced my Maxima with a 5-series last fall, but got an S2000 instead.

    I did, however, drive the heck out of everything out there, including the GS430. Personally, I don't care how good Lexus looks, they are not even in the same league as BMW in terms of driving "dynamics". If it's bold aggressive looks you want, go for it. Perhaps a Buick GS or Monte Carlo would be good for you. But without a major engineering and priority overhaul, there is no way that Lexus can compete with BMW as the serious driving enthusaist's car of choice. Heck, the only thing they even offer with a stick in is their boy toy looking IS300.

    The LS430 might be giving the E430 and S430 a run for their money, but I don't see anything coming out of Lexus that could seriously be labeled "a driver's car" to compete with the 5-serious. Looks are only skin deep.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Nah...he's not trolling. He is exersizing his privilege of posting respectful dissenting opinions. :)
  • rlowrierlowrie Posts: 30
    Prior to going to one of the local dealers to work out a deal on a 540i I am planning to lease (and do European Delivery) I used the Lease Wizaed program and got some non BMWFS live quotes. The 36 month 15k miles quotes from 3 lenders were similar with a residual of 56% and a money factor of .0029. Is this similar to what I could expect from BMWFS?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I think that BMWFS is more in the neighborhood of 59% residual for 15K/yr and .00210 for the money factor. You might want to scan some of the recent posts over on the "Finance/Warranty/Insurance" - "Lease Questions - Ask Here" topic, if I remember correctly somebody just asked for the very information that you are seeking within the last week or so.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    I doubt the new 5 will have SMG as an option (aside from the eventual M5); from what I've read, BMW execs have expressed privately it'll be reserved for the M cars (but I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up in other high-end models, such as the Z8).
  • rlowrierlowrie Posts: 30
    Thanks for all the great info and both the on-board and email help members of this board have provided. I am going to be heading to a dealer in the next week or two (when I find the time and I can sneak out on my wife!) and make a deal on a 540i. This board has provided much needed ammuniation and conformation othat I am making a great choice and will likely get a good deal. I started this process many months age by lurking the various boards (i.e. MB, Jag, Lexus, BMW) not sure of what I was looking for. I have driven all now and clearly love the BMW. This has been enhaced by the fact that almost every day I can look forward to multiple insightful and helpful posts on this board whereas the other "competing" boards are good for only a few a day, if that. This indicates that a real passion exists with the BMW owners that just isn't there with the others. Again, thanks for all the help.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Welcome to the club. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • bluebeastbluebeast Posts: 261
    People are not always posting just to give a certain msg board a bunch of grief. I for one enjoy a variety of cars and like to read as much as I can and also share my experiences. In this case I have a 98 GS300 after trading in my 97 528 and a 96 LS400 after trading in my 95 M3. I love the styling of both the Lexus and the BMW, with the M3 being my favorite. I agree that the handling of the BMW is better than anything Lexus has to offer. I decided to get rid of the BMW's when I got to know every person in the service department. In 1 year I had the 528 in the shop almost twice a month for something. Got tired of it (wifes car). The M3 was not near as bad, but the last straw was when they could not figure out why the car would just stop running when you would be going 40-55mph. I miss how fun they were to drive and still think about getting a 540 6spd, but the realiability issue still lingers in my mind.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    My understanding (from reading many sources) was that the first year E39 5-Series had more than its fair share of problems, which were apparently worked out by 1999 (if not 1998). On the other hand, my first year E46 328i has been such a model of reliability that it would be the envy of any Japanese company, I guess that BMW learned their lesson on the E39, unfortunately, that was the car that you wound up with.

    Now in its seventh year of production (6 model years, the 1997 was released in early 1996), the E39 has evolved into a car that can run with the "Best of Breed" reliablility wise, from anywhere in the world.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • hnnhnn Posts: 34
    Riez, thanks for the tip. Hnn
  • colt007colt007 Posts: 64
    The first car I drove (in 1980) was a 1972 Caddilac Eldorado convertible (yeah baby, crusin'!). I was almost as cool in the Eldo as anyone who drove a stick ;). I always wanted to learn stick, just never did. The Eldo may have made me lazy in that respect. I never eat, drink, read the newspaper or any of that crap when I drive automatics. With the responsive I6 in the 530i, even w/ the auto (& sport package), you feel totally attached to the car. It feels like me with wheels. Sticks to the road like nothing else. Yes, I'm probably missing alot not having the stick (my SO hates them), but I do feel like a real 'driver' in this car (& my 300M).

    Colt.
  • colt007colt007 Posts: 64
    Got it. Love it. Didn't really want to do anything aftermarket. If you spend alot of time in the car & you like music, go for it! Although, someone once posted that they didn't listen to the radio alot because they loved the sound of the engine. I totally understand that also!

    Colt.
  • colt007colt007 Posts: 64
    I fueled up the same way you described not to. I haven't seen the service engine soon light up yet. Won't do that again. Thanks.

    Colt.
  • chpqdkchpqdk Posts: 7
    The lease on my 99 540 6 speed runs out in two weeks. The car has only 40,000 miles on it and a residual value of $37,500 but the dealer is willing to certify it for 100,000 miles and sell it to me for $34,500 with 3.95 financing. This is my 5th BMW (my second 5 series) and the best of them all. This seems like a good deal to me but has anyone received a better offer at the end of their lease?
  • colt007colt007 Posts: 64
    The '04 5 should be another good one. We really love the 5 just the way it is. Like shipo (I think it was you), we plan to keep this car in the family a long time (just got rid of a '91 Buick). It will look as fresh in 15 years as it does now. '04 Lex GS: I won't hate on the car (bro inlaw has a '99 GS400), its just not for me. Although one of my buddies says I have the American version of the GS in the 300M, they look like brothers to him.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,091
    Was forced to learn to drive an Automatic from the get go and here I am 10 years later wanting one each time I get a new car and haven't been able to get one for one (good) reason or another. When I turned 16 and got my license, I wanted a stick so bad. My Dad said he wasn't about to teach me how to drive stick on a brand new car (which was to be mine) and we had nothing for me to learn on (His 1987 5 speed Ford Bronco II had died 2 months before I got my permit & he wasn't going to teach me on his 1966 427 Big Block Corvette Roadster). I ended up with a 1992 Chevy Beretta GT (3 speed automatic, how ghetto is that). All through the years of driving that car I had learned how to drive a stick on friends cars & even went to a dealer and test drove cars to further my learning experience:) Time came and went, and after I replaced the camshaft at 60,000 miles on my Beretta I decided it was time for a new ride.

    I was determined that this car would be a stick. I ordered at 1998 Nissan Maxima SE with a 5 speed. The car I wanted never came in (the dealer kept jerking me around) so I said forget it. My Dad suggested I get an Explorer Sport since the dealer where he bought his Ford Explorer from was running this awesome "pay $6422 and drive a loaded 1998 Ford Explorer Sport for 2 years/24,000 miles." The explorer was only available with a stick if you opted for the 160hp pushrod engine. So for 2 years I drove the truck with a 5 speed automatic and a 205 hp SOHC V6.

    The lease on my truck ended and I had been living in the city and needed a car, but didn't need anything too fancy (but still wanted a stick). My Mom suggested that if I get a FWD or AWD car with an Automatic, then my parents would pay for half the lease payments. She said this so she could drive my car in the snow (as she was afraid to drive her RWD CLK in the snow). I ended up with my Saab and am happy with it.

    But...I swear this time around that since I'm buying and nobody has to drive my car but me (cause my mom got an AWD A6), I'm getting a stick. I'm very close to inking a deal to get a leftover 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH (which only comes in stick).

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • colt007colt007 Posts: 64
    go get that M3!
  • colt007colt007 Posts: 64
    I live in NY, purchased the car in NJ. Dealer would not/did not get the car inspected since they're in NJ. Where would you get your new 2002 530i inspected at? We're about 2 weeks past the 20 day temporary sticker the dealer gave us.

    Colt.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,091
    Go to a gas station or tire shop (any place that still does NYS Inspection). Try Mavis Discount Tire & Auto off of Rte 59 in Nanuet.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Check out the following link:

    http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/vehsafe.htm#safeinspect

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
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