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BMW 5-Series Sedans



  • zhangqjzhangqj Posts: 15
    Went to the dealer today. The salesman told me, unlike what some indicated here, that there will only be three models, 525i, 535i, 545i (except M5 and wagons) in the US.

    Check this one out

    click "future BMWs"

  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    That page is riddled with predictions that run contrary to most published automotive media (not to mention misspellings and errors like "lame men terms").

    And, sorry to generalize, but dealers are usually amongst the least reliable people as far as future model information. That said, he's probably right, to an extent: US models always constitute a susbset of those that are available in Europe, and usually comprise the bigger-engined variants.
  • joseph40joseph40 Posts: 17
    Any word on your car? Will it be ready for May 20th? Based on your drop-off (4/24 in your write-up), that seems to be less than 4 weeks. I hope that I am that lucky. Enjoy.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    That site simply must be a parody, no one could be that moronic. Example: The "M7" picture is a Photoshopped April Fools joke that made the rounds on several BMW boards and sites. This guy treats it as a serious story.
  • bluewater5bluewater5 Posts: 55
    - saw it on a web site
    - heard it from a salesman
    - read it on Edmunds forums
    - saw it on TV
    - read it in a magazine

    If the E60 does appear in Fall 2003 as a 2004 model year, the "real" answer could be that BMW has just not decided yet. I am still glad I'll be getting my E39 next month.
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    On closer inspection, I don't think it's a parody at all. Zhangqj, how did you hear about this site? I've emailed the contact about the dozen or so errors I spotted on the E60 page alone, I'm curious to see his responses. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the working of a 14-year-old with way too much on his hands.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Hmmm, while I am sure that my 530i is “Feet Dry”, beyond that, I have sort of lost track of it for the moment. This has been a really full week, and on top of it all, my salesman is on vacation for the week as well. Based upon a few things I have read in the last couple of days about cars being held in the NJ VPC for a week or three, I am suddenly not too optimistic about getting my car next week.

    To the folks that have called BMW and asked about the status of their cars, do you have their phone number handy? If you do, could you please post it, I may succumb to the temptation, and give them a call.

    Best Regards,
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    800-831-1117 (option #3). Succumb away!
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I just called BMWNA (thanks Snagiel), and they told me that my car was "On its way to the VPC for its inspection and customs clearance". I just checked the Owners Circle, and the "Estimated Delivery Date" is 21-May-2002 (next Tuesday), so, I guess my initial guess of next Monday was not too far off. I will keep y’all posted. ;-)

    Best Regards,
  • taylorttaylort Posts: 31
    I took my car to the dealer this week to have the Aux fan replaced, Oil change, and checkout a noise that sounded like it was coming for the tires. (road noise like I was riding on a gravel road)
    They found that the tires were wearing improperly. The word they used was they felt choppy. If you rub your hand across the tire it felt choppy/bumpy.

    The dealer said they wouldn't replace the tires because it is just how the tires are wearing. They suggested I call Michelin to see if they would replace them under warranty. (I only have 12K miles on the car - 2001 530 with Sports Package)
    Michelin referred me to one of their service centers here in Maryland. They recognize that there is a problem but said the problem is because the tires were not rotated. With most of the car's weight on the front tires, plus Y-rated tires are soft, the tires should be rotate at least every 6k miles.

    They said if I can show that the tires were rotated they will replace the tires otherwise not.

    Have anyone every heard of this before? Since BMW really tell you that the car doesn't have to be serviced until 12K to 16K miles how would I have caught this? ( I have had the dealer change the oil every 6k)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,407
    And also BMW advises AGAINST rotating the tires.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    Ahh...the endless beauty of the corporate run-around. BMW: "Michelin's tires suck." Michelin: "You should've rotated them, regardless of what BMW says." You gotta love it.

    I'm not sure if I understand what's wrong with your tires. If there's fairly symmetrical (for the right and left tires) wear more on the outside edge than the inside, then that's due to lack of rotation and is normal. If the tires are somehow not wearing down in a smooth and straightforward manner, there MAY be something arguably wrong with their workmanship, but if so it would likely only appear on a single tire, not all of them.

    I'd see if the dealer might be willing to determine whether your alignment is indeed out of whack or not. Considering you have only 12k miles, I think you have a reasonable argument. But I've heard many of the sport-package tires don't last beyond 20k miles, so I'm not sure how far along your tires are given that longevity.

    Good luck, and keep us apprised.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "With most of the car's weight on the front tires..."

    Ummm, I don't know what transmission you have in your 530i SP, however according to the following, all 5ers have fairly equal weight distribution:

    Car/Trn -- Frnt%/Rear%
    525i/A -- 50.6%/49.4%
    530i/A -- 50.9%/49.1%
    540i/A -- 52.7%/47.5%

    525i/M -- 50.2%/49.8%
    530i/M -- 50.5%/49.5%
    540i/M -- 52.1%/47.9%

    Best Regards,
  • jim52jim52 Posts: 161
    What product do you guys recommend to clean/protect the dash board?
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    The dash itself: Lexol Vinylex
    Wood trim, instrument cluster plastic, steering wheel base, and radio/HVAC faces: moist cloth
  • nycanyca Posts: 232
    I recommend trying some of the Wurth products for various car care and cleaning needs. Wurth Cockpit Cleaner is great for the dash, and even more stubborn stains on the door sills and such. If you've ever wanted to restore the original windshield washer fluid your BMW was shipped with when delivered, they make that stuff too. I buy mine from, they have the entire lineup (I have no financial interest in this).
  • cmr530icmr530i Posts: 278
    I experienced no out of pocket expenses whatsoever. The only surprise was that they washed my car and did a nice job too! Even found a mint on the passenger seat. I did have to provide a credit card in order to process the loaner car as one would with any rental, but nothing was charged to my account. They also requested that I return the loaner with about as much fuel as it started with. I had no need to do this as the 3 series gets good miles per gallon.
    I hope your service experience is as positive as mine was.
  • dabimmerdabimmer Posts: 165
    Thank you so much for the info, it's gratifying to know in advance what to
    expect. Your dealer treated you quite nicely and why not? I also hope to
    have such a positive service experience. Thanks again.
  • bmw323isbmw323is Posts: 410
    Here are a few things to consider about the new 5 series.

    -When was the last time BMW made a styling mistake on a new model (the new 7 is actually selling extremely well)?
    -When the E46 3 series was introduced in 1999, many journalists did not like its' styling. By 2000, all were raving about it and sales skyrocketed. Bangle correctly predicted that the styling would get more appealing as time went on.

    I think the new 5 series will be much the same. BMW is on a roll like no other manufacturer - they won't blow it now. The new 5 will likely be better, larger, more powerful, and only slightly more expensive. And, as always, the design will grow on you. I'd still stay away from first year production though. I wonder if BMW will feel the need to deep discount the E39 in 2003? Can you say Accord or Z3? Sales are way down in anticipation of the new models. For long term buyers, that do not mind the first-year residual blow from a new model introduction, the deals may get very good in the next year. I know they are heavily discounting the Z3 now in my city.

    Just my thoughts.
  • bmw54bmw54 Posts: 2
    I have a 2001 530i with the sport and premium packages.Does anyone know how to keep the tan leather seats clean? I have noticed that it is becoming more and more difficult to keep the front seats looking new. Does anyone have any advice on how to best keep the leather interior from looking soiled. Also, the leather does not appear to be of the same quality as my 89 525.
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