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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,663
    While at the car wash in The Bronx this morning, I saw a beautiful E39 Wagon (couldn't tell if it was a 525i or 540i) that looked like it had the Sport Suspension (or the guy lowered it) with a set of E60 530i Sp wheels. Looked sharp!

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  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    ' "wow it looks like a cat's eye." '

    How interesting… I have always thought that the headlights of my E60 looked like a pair of eagle eyes! :shades:

    I like it, anyway. ;)

    Regards,
    José
  • Has anyone else seen the article on the new Lexus. My first thought was they finally cleaned up the 5 Series before I realized it was a Lexus.

    What scares me now is that current BMW design themes will be copied. What really scares me is I like the Lexus and hate the new BMWs.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Whatever you and I perceive the headlights to look like, they are a unique design and will probably be copied by other automakers.
    The ultimate compliment.
  • Right on again, hpowders!

    For the record, NOT ONE person who has seen my 530xi (that I have owned now for over 3 months) has said that they don't like the way it looks. EVERYBODY has gushed about how unique, agile, and feline the car looks.

    When I was a kid I once read a review of a Jaguar that said "the car looks like it is in motion even when it is standing perfectly still". That's exactly how I feel whenever I walk up to my 530xi.

    The M35x may be the more practical, cheaper alternative to the 530xi, but it does not come close to the excitement I feel when I walk up to the car. That, and the lack of a Manual Transmission, did it for me!
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    You've got that right freddybb.

    "Feline" is an excellent word to describe the E60.
    Some folks (nobody I know) may criticize the front or the rear design but I can't see anybody saying anything negative when you view the car from the side. Breathtaking! Like a sleek, aggressive cat about to pounce on its prey. IMHO.

    What did it for me was driving and comparing both the 545 and the M45 about 6 months ago. The 545 handled a bit better.
    The M is a fine vehicle but you are spoiled for life after getting your first Bimmer.
    I've had 3 of them now since 1993(2 325i's and now the 545).

    I started testing the Lexus GS300, 430 and LS430 in addition to both M's and narrowed it down to the M45 vs the 545. I am very satisfied in deciding on my third consecutive BMW.

    Yeah. Feline! ;)
  • I am thinking about buying a 530. I talked to the dealer and he mentioned that manuals were not very common for this car. I was just wondering how many of you out there have a manual 530. Will this be a problem for resale down the road?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "Will this be a problem for resale down the road?"

    Not likely. When my dealer took my 530i 5-Speed, PP SP, Xenon, Premium Audio back at lease end this year, my dealer couldn't wait to put it on his lot. Why? Because of "How rare Sport Package equipped 530i 5-Speeds are."

    Sure enough, he put my three year old car on the lot for only $5,000 less than I paid for it and sold it for a thousand less than that. Talk about a premium, it was the most expensive 2002 530i on his lot by about $3,000, including cars that had a higher MSRP!

    The other way to look at this kind of a purchase is, "Just who are you buying this car for? You, or the guy or gal that comes after you?" Personally couldn't give one rip what folks down the road think about my choice of transmission, I'm ordering the car for ME and only ME. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • ".... you are spoiled for life after getting your first Bimmer."

    As a first time BMW owner (2005 530i), that pretty well sums up my feelings. The fresh, bold design (E60) caught my eye and, after one test drive, I was hooked big time! I can only hope that others get as much enjoyment driving their car as I get driving mine.

    Martin
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Nothing in this price range drives like the E60.
    Add the fresh, bold and aggressively feline design and you have an irresistible package.
    Judging from the impressive E60 October sales figures, plenty of people agree.
  • warthogwarthog Posts: 216
    And how often do your friends tell you your new suit/wife/house is UGLY?
  • hullhull Posts: 10
    Manual is the main reason to buy a 5 series. The 5-series is the only mid-size 4-door luxury car to offer a manual transmission at this time (unless you count the Cadalac CTS). I wouldn't worry to much about re-sale. If you like manuals and want a car with room for 4 adults and a well balanced ride, this is the car to get.
  • Trust me, warthog, I have friends who are defined by the cliche "with friends like these, who needs enemies". I know when I gain weight because they tell me, I know when I look like a geek because they tell me, and if they did not like the way the 530xi looks, they sure as heck would tell me! I love them all!
  • Three words for you, flatout18, GET THE MANUAL!

    I have a 2006 530xi Manual Transmission (my first every BMW), and I am in heaven every time I get to drive the car. I got away from driving a manual for a few years, and I am delighted to be back. AWD and Manual Transmission in a car that looks and drive as well as the 530xi -- what more could I want?!

    And, like Shipo said, I don't anticipate any resale problems down the road (although I don't care too much about that because I plan on keeping this baby for a while). By the way, Shipo was a great help while I was making my decision. I trust his judgement.
  • You like "Feline", eh?! I always wanted to own a Jaguar as a kid because of the cat-like stance, and I am glad that BMW has come up with the current 5 design.

    When I first bought the car I sent an email to my buddies with the Subject Message: "Warning: Black Panther sighted in MA". As you can imagine, the body of the message was a shot of my black 530xi! Three buddies came over the next weekend to check it out.

    BTW, I have three young kids, and their favorite features are the sunshades in the rear windows (including the auto one in the back), and the auto up-and-down for all four windows. Go figure! Where does that innocence go?!
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    I agree. My friends never hesistate to tell me exactly how they feel. In fact, my best friend is the only one that has any reservations about my car. He doesn't mind how it looks, but he's not in love with how hi-tech it is. He's what I would call technically challenged so iDrive is scary to him. Otherwise though, everyone loves, not just likes, the way my 545 looks. The funny thing is, I think my wife's new A6 Avant has a much nicer looking interior, but she thinks my car has a nicer interior. Goes to show that different strokes for different folks is the rule of the day when it comes to cars.
  • Hi,

    Wondering if anyone else has experienced any issues with the new body style 5 series (2004-2006). I'm hearing that this particular redesign is littered with issues. My car has 6800 miles and has been in for repair on several occasions - window malfunction, steering wheel vibration, and now a complete iDrive failure. The screen went completely blank. Dealer told me that BMW is coming out with a new replacement part for the iDrive screen since it's been a consistent issues across the board. Dealer has no idea how long it will take to get in the part since it hasn't yet been released. I've been in a loaner vehicle for 10 days now and getting more and more frustrated by the day. Any advice? Any similar experiences? I'd really appreciate the feedback...

    Thanks.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Yeah. So high-tech I have to change the clock manually for DST/ST.
    Thankfully, iDrive makes the adjustment simple in just a matter of seconds.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Got my 545 on August 1, 2005.
    No problems.
  • Manual it is. Now the question is lease or buy. I generally buy my cars because I keep them for a long time. However, I am a little more concerned with purchasing the BMW b/c of the cost of repairs. I understand there is an extended warranty available but I am not sure how much that would be. Just want to get some thoughts. Anybody know what the extended warranty program would cost? How about the extended maintenance program.
  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    Anybody know what the extended warranty program would cost? How about the extended maintenance program.

    The extended warranty is in the neighborhood of $2200+... The maintenance is around $1200 or so. The latter is a deal, IMO, if you keep the car up to 100k miles. Between brakes/rotors and multiple service intervals, that $1200 is easily obtained.
  • They definitely need to come out with more exterior colors. I really like the Kahala offered in the X,6,and 7-series. I am quite tire of looking at silver, grey, black or white color 5's.

    Anyone know if BMW has a history of adding new colors during the mid to latter years of a production cycle (every 8 years before new style) for a particular vehicle?
  • dabimmerdabimmer Posts: 165
    Yes, we did take the 5er and enjoyed every one of the 10 days down there. Had exceptionally good food down in the south bay. I hadn't replied because I wanted to wait till I got my new Michelin PS2's on my car which I did today. I drove a few miles just to see how they handled and I'm here to say that they are a very good choice for the 5er. It is a very " happy cooker ". Nice quiet ride with great performance. Hope you've gotten your new bumper all squared away and all is well. Life is good. :)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,663
    My Mom has an '05 530iA that she's had since last December (almost a year now). She's got close to 14K miles on the car and it hasn't seen the inside of the service department yet.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,281
    Excellent!

    The car has made it past, oh, I don't know, 5-10% of its life without ending up beside the road dead.

    Alert the media.
  • Extended warranties and maintenance programs are based on averages with profit and commissions added. Most people will save money not buying either. The advantage is you know what your costs will be, like leasing, for a certain term. The disadvantage is you may have discussions concerning normal wear and tear versus abuse.

    Using your estimates, it costs $3400 for an additional 50,000 miles; 6.8 cents per mile. Kiplinger estimates for BMWs are around this figure, but include tires.

    My 2002 530i has 60,000 miles, no warranty or maintenance issues to date and I estimate covered services would have cost less than $1000. I'm self insuring.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    I've had my 545 since July, 2004 with no problems. Just a couple of recalls which are typical when any car gets redesigned. My only complaint is the crappy tires which are so loud now I'm changing them next spring regardless of tread depth. Other than that though it's been a great car.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    Wow, this really bothers you doesn't it? As you said, it's easy to adjust the time in iDrive anyway (took a grand total of about 5 seconds), and in newer 5's it does adjust for DST automatically. So it seems like a non-issue to me. Check out my previous post for a real problem. I hope you don't have Dunlop run-flats on your 545 like I do on mine. Not fun to pay for new tires when these only have about 12,000 miles on them (an estimate because the car has 16,000 miles on it, but I have winter tires too).
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    What bothers me is in a car where I can press a button to contact BMW and they can instantly locate my car, I still have to manually change the clock.
    Even my crappy, old VCR changed the time back to ST.
    It's just the idea that they didn't think to do that by 2005 E60's. It would have been nice.
    I don't really mind doing it, but....

    No Dunlops. I have the non-sport package Continentals. They are not run-flats.
    Same brand as I had on my last 325i.
    They were excellent on my 325i and expect them to be very good on my E60 as well.
    No problems with the tires after almost 3.5 months.
  • Next year it will be interesting to find out how the clock changes automatically. I suspect it is a computer program with a calendar, but does it know that DST will last till the 3rd weekend in November instead of the last weekend in October.
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