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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,193
    Okay.. I'm surprised.. :surprise:

    That said, he already has a set of winter tires in the stock 535 size.. I'd just get wheels for them, and be done with it... Unless the 16" tires are appreciably narrower, it isn't going to make much difference, anyway..

    I'd double check the 16" thing with a phone call.. The stock size on the 535 is 225/50-17.. That is for the base model, not sport. Not sure I'd want to downgrade from that. Even the 528i comes with 17" standard.

    regards,
    kyfdx
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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Nope, all E60 cars can be fitted with 16" wheels (per TireRack), SP or not, I6 or V8, it makes no matter. That said, the situation is very much like that of my old E39, while there were 16" wheels that would fit, they were very few and far between.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,193
    Remember the good old days, when 14" wheels were an upgrade?

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  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Yeah, I was so proud the first time I bought a car with 15" wheels. ;)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    >"That said, he already has a set of winter tires in the stock 535 size.. I'd just get wheels for them, and be done with it."

    I'm trying to find out how much better the traction would be between 16 and 17.. probably tough to measure. Since I already have the 17s it makes sense to go with those, but since I'll have the car for many years I don't want to have worse traction every year just to save a few bucks on the tires this year.

    >"I'd double check the 16" thing with a phone call.."

    BMW lists 16 inch tires on the accessory page for the 2008 535i (star spoke 115), but you're right - better safe than sorry.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "I'm trying to find out how much better the traction would be between 16 and 17.. probably tough to measure."

    Assuming the same section width (i.e. 225), probably impossible to measure. I've never seen any compelling evidence that proves that a winter tire of any given width and diameter will perform better if the wheel is smaller.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    My mistake - I was confusing the aspect ratio with the tire width. :blush:

    So, given that the 16 and 17 have the same width (therefore the same traction as well), would there be any major reason to go with the 16 other than cost?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,193
    Assuming the 16" tires are sized properly, they'll be the same overall height... With 1" less wheel, the sidewall will be 0.5" taller than the corresponding 17" tire.

    If you have bad potholes, or your spouse is maybe not as careful as you would like, then you do have a small amount of increased protection from pothole damage.

    But, traction/winter handling improvements would probably be too small to calculate.

    If you stick with 17" wheels, you'll have a lot more choices... Personally, I like my car to look just as good in the winter as the rest of the year, which is why I don't like to downsize... (but, that's just me).

    regards,
    kyfdx
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    EDIT: Some people think that extra 1/2" of sidewall lets the tire flex more, and find better tracton in deep snow.. Not sure that makes sense to me, but there you have it.

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  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    Good info - thanks. Since I already have 225/50 17 tires, I guess I'll stick with those and pickup some wheels.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,879
    ...at the BMW CCA Oktoberfest in Fort Worth. Great engine; lots of torque and relatively free of compression ignition rattle. I would have liked a stick but the slushbox did pretty well. The rest of the car was okay, but not really my thing. It was a european SP which had several new/unique features. The HUD worked well, but didn't supply enough info. The car also had the lane departure warning system; I guess Munich wants to attract some customers from God's waiting rooms at Cadillac and Lincoln dealerships. The handling was above average, though I still don't care for BMW's Active Steering. The SP run flats were noticeably more harsh in terms of bump/thump when compared to the 21" go flats on my B7 loaner. Go figure...
    On the diesel evaluation sheet I stated:
    "Put this motor in a 3er coupe with the European M Sport package and I will buy one. Put it in a 1er M Sport 5 door hatch and I'll buy two."

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 1975 2002A 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 1999 Wrangler 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2009 328i Son's: 2004 X3 2.5

  • Wow!! Great idea!!! Will do that next time for sure. I actually ended up going with the E350 and added the AMG rims for $2000.00

    I still think the 535xi is a better car, but I need something for weekly driving as I am putting to many miles on my M35x. The E 350 4 matic will be my commuter car and the M35x wil be my weekend car. The 535xi performed as well as my M35x, so I decided to go with something less powerful with better gas mileage.

    Thank You again for your advice.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,009
    Did they announce the raffle winners? How do you find out who won?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,879
    Did they announce the raffle winners? How do you find out who won?

    The names should be on the CCA site shortly, if they aren't there already. My son was at one party when they announced that one winner was from KY. Wasn't me, sad to say. :cry:

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 1975 2002A 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 1999 Wrangler 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2009 328i Son's: 2004 X3 2.5

  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    ... I actually ended up going with the E350 and added the AMG rims for $2000.00 ...

    You could've saved a bunch of money on those wheels if you had gone to The Tire Rack's website. You can get the exact same wheels for, IIR, much less than $1K.
  • I actually leased it. But Thank You for the helpful information. Greatly appreciated.
  • 2007 530xi with standard radio. If I turn off the car with a CD in the dash, when I restart the car, it has gone to a completely different place on the CD. This is true whether or not I pause the CD before shutting off the car. This issue is compounded by the fact that the fast forward and fast reverse functions are barely faster than regular play. So, on a long track of music, finding where I was before stopping is very tedious. I know, it's a BMW so it's about driving rather than listening to music. But does anyone know a fix or technique to keep this from happening?
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    I think this is a known issue, and is fixed with a software update. I'd call your dealer.
  • I'm curious to know if anyone else saw the write up on the 535i in the Nov 07 issue of Sports Car International, as an inset in their article on the '08 CTS. If so, I was wondering what you thought about the critcism of the ride and handling of the 535i, which had the sports package.

    I'm not familiar with this magazine, or their reputation, but they apparently liked the ride and handling of the CTS better, but preferred the engine and transmission of the 535i.

    FYI, I have a 535Xi and think the balance between ride quality and handling is outstanding.

    Thanks
    Bruce
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    I spotted the Dodo bird yesterday!! I've always read the myth about it's existance, but I never thought I'd actually see one! I could NOT believe my eyes! I was 100% flabbergasted! I literally gasped and exclaimed aloud, "Oh my God!" My heart skipped a beat! I almost fell completely over!

    What on Earth would cause such a reaction?? Ladies and Gentlement, I spotted... On the dealer lot... A new 550i Sport with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION!!!! Just sitting there! In the open! Unabashed! For all to see!
  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    Actually, this is not so rare... many dealers have one or two of the higher performers in manual - when I ordered my 540 a few years ago, there were two manual 540's on the lot, (one a barely used demo).
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    Other than an M5, I've never seen a manual equipped 5-series that I can recall. Let alone seeing a brand new 550i. I'm still in shock.
  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    Here is a bit of trivia for you - BMW magazine went through the production figures a few years ago, and found that the manual 540 (E39) was actually produced in fewer numbers than the M5 - Go figure.
  • I passed 100k miles Sunday driving back from Hilton Head. I have a 2002 530i SP, 5 speed, Euro Delivered.

    After 100446 miles, I have averaged 52.5 MPH and 26.7 MPG. My costs that would have been covered by an extended maintenance/warranty package was $1402.45; but the right hand mirror quit lowering when shifted into reverse this afternoon.

    My costs by year are: 2002, $117.59; 2003, $43.38; 2004, $1819.35; 2005, $1741.21; 2006, $1609.38; and 2007 to date, $1940.08.

    My costs by category are: Scheduled, $2240.56; Recurring, $3019.07; Damage, $621.00; and Unscheduled, $1393.06.

    Additionally, my gas mileage to Hilton Head was 30.37 MPG at 80-85 MPH and return gas mileage was 30.04 (more uphill) at 80-85 MPH.

    I still love the way the car rides, drives and handles; I intend to keep it another 5 years and 100k miles.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,754
    but the right hand mirror quit lowering when shifted into reverse this afternoon.

    Make sure that the selector switch which controls which mirror you're adjusting is set for the driver's side, then it should lower when you hit Reverse.

    My experience with a 2000 MY 528iA has been similar to yours except for a warranty repair to the Air Bag Control Module
    ($appx. $700 IIRC) and a non-warranty fix of the VANOS control thing-ama-jig ($1200). Other than that not much has gone wrong at 102,525 miles and counting. :shades:

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    Interesting to hear that there are actually people out there who get to 100K! Soooo many folks talk about cost to own, then tell me that they did 50K in 5 years...

    I'm at 133K in my 2003 540I. It was the last of the E39 series. I've spent a bit more, since I've done a few things like replaced the cooling system (radiator, water pump, thermostat etc) brakes a few times, and more tires than you can shake a stick at.

    Unfortunately the machine has left me stranded a couple of times - Blew an upper radiator hose in my driveway, at the end of a rather spirited 70 mile run... (ok, at least it was considerate enough to wait until I got home). Alternator quit, resulting in a tow, and those water cooled alternators are NOT cheap!

    I still find it the best car, even though not as reliable as my Camry.... I still glance back when I walk away from it.
  • Thanks for the suggestion. My wife drove some yesterday and adjusts the mirrors and seats separately instead of using the memory button.
  • sdg380sdg380 Posts: 109
    About the mirror problem, I have the exact same model, and while it could be that the switch is incorrectly positioned, this was one of the very few problems I've had with the car (was fixed under warranty, but I'm not sure exactly what was replaced.)

    Unfortunately, more recently, the climate control has acted erraticly, hoping that it is an electrical gremlin that will settle down. Ever had any problems with yours? Curiously (or maybe not), my E34 (which was still running great at 102k miles when I sold it) also had some climate control electrical problems.
  • ny540i6ny540i6 Posts: 518
    I know you did not ask me, however... I'm having some issues with climate control too. Some possible solutions were suggested by Roadburner, over on the 5 series maintenance and problems board. Once I have time to chase it down I'll post what the cause was.
  • sdg380sdg380 Posts: 109
    NY, thanks for the 411, would much appreciate any info, sdg
  • The mirror was the switch.

    The AC fan sometimes speeds up or stops when you think it shouldn't, but it always soon corrects and I do not want it screwed up by someone trying to fix it. The radio has also increased in volume twice in 5 years, same decision.
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