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  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    Oggilby, Cmr530i,

    I thank you for your empathy.

    I had Pirelli P7 BMW Star (four seasons) tires; all four tires were put on the car at the same time, 17,600 miles ago. Flanks apparently were in good shape and drawings deep enough—I had checked it before journeying. Nevertheless, the highway patrol said that the tire blew because of its rolling over a sharp piece of debris. Although I feel I remember I had seen some piece of black something on the pavement an instant before the accident, I cannot honestly say whether this was real or I have dreamed of it.

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I replied to you in the other discussion, but let me just repeat how glad I am that you and your family suffered no injuries.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,393
    Glad to hear you and your family are OK! Happy New Year!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • jeqqjeqq Posts: 216
    last year. An estimated 3,000 died from second hand smoke. So do you smoke or hang out in a smoke filled bar? I would not. Most smoker say the same dribble you said above. We are all going to eventually die so why quite smoking.

    You did not give the full statistics. "Side impacts were still killing about 9,800 people and injure more than a million every year". So what's a mere million injuries. What about our kids that sit in the rear of our cars?

    Did you pay attention to the video? These were very serious injuries to the chest, internal organs and pelvic bones.

    Another statistic "While side-impact collisions cause about 25 percent of all injuries to car occupants, they cause more than 35 percent of serious and fatal injuries. And more than half of the serious and fatal injuries in side-impact collisions are to the head." Yes, BMW did protect your head but not the rest of your body.

    Thank god, Jose and his family are okay. Had it been a T- bone collision unfortunately the outcome may not have been the same.

    Basically, I'm just looking to stack the odds in favor of my wife and kid who sit in the rear "sides" of my car.

    So my friend, I believe you are wrong or we agree that we disagree.
  • jeqqjeqq Posts: 216
    I do not think it was a press event. The guy I know test drives for one of the mags.

    BTW, the car calling BMW Assist is a great idea.
  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    I have attentively watched the video on lateral impact against the 5 Series car. One thing I find it was different in that car regarding mine is that in my 2004 530d there were two airbags lateral to each front seat: one for the head and the other for the body. The latter coming out from the door panel, ripping off the upholstery. I cannot find such a lateral air bag for the body in the video. Each rear seat only had one (head) lateral airbag in my car, however.

    On the other hand, I believe my lateral collisions were not so brutal as that one depicted in the video. Neither were they so perpendicular to the flank car. My car, even if spinning horizontally on the asphalt, kept always some amount of forward motion.

    Pat, Nyccarguy, Jegg, I thank you for your gladness. Sure enough, my family and I will happily celebrate this next New Year. I wish as well a happy New Year to everyone in this forum.

  • My friend, I think you are missing my point. While there is nothing wrong with trying to stack the odds in your favor, you are still putting to much weight into a single statistic. Some cars handle better than others in adverse situations, allowing you to avoid (or lessen the impact of) accidents. As far as I know, there is no NHTSA statistic that shows that. Some people are better drivers than others and are aware of their surroundings, such as a dangerous intersection that they drive through on a regular basis, so they slow down slightly and glance in both directions as they approach the intersection. Some people talk on their cellphones, pay no attention to other drivers or the situation, and trust that nothing is going to hit them. Which type is more likely to get T-Boned? Where is the statistic for it?

    "Had it been a T- bone collision unfortunately the outcome may not have been the same". How often do you think people get T-boned cruising on a two-lane highway at 75 miles per hour?

    Yes, thank god Jose and his family are fine. I would imagine that Jose is pretty happy he and his family were in his BMW. If they were in a lesser car, the results of the accident could have been tragic. Where is the statistic for that?
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    I'm a little confused:

    bruceomega: "I remember reading about a long distance drive BMW hosted when the 2008 5 series were released, providing a set of all the 5 series models for the press to take turns driving from Nevada to California"

    Your reply: I know one of those drivers who witnessed that accident. The passenger was okay, the driver had injuries. I'm not sure to what extent but he did have to be hospitalized.

    My reply to you:If it is the press event drive, the driver was only held for observation relating to back injuries.

    Your reply to me:I do not think it was a press event. The guy I know test drives for one of the mags.


    Not a real biggie and I'm not trying to do a "gotcha"... I'm just a detail kind of guy. ;)

    There was a writeup in Roundel about the accident... just curious if it is the same one. It sounds like it is, but from what I remember of the writeup, I think the author siad that there wasn't anyone around when it happened, and "... by the time the people behind us had caught up, the car had already called BMW Assist to report the accident." (my paraphrase - not a direct quote).
  • jeqqjeqq Posts: 216
    Jose, thanks for the good wishes and the same for you and your family.

    I'm sure this accident keeps playing over in your head. I have no doubt that the car saved you guys. I'm sure your driving abilities and the cars electronics kicked in too.

    If I had a blowout at 75 mph, a BMW would be one of my choices (if I could pick one:)). I'm sure BMW will address the side crash issue real soon. Then my only reservation with the 5 series is the auto transmission shifter, the turn signal mechanism and the lack of an oil dip stick. Can't wait for the flames on those things:)
  • Even your BMW salesman will tell you that the crash ratings are horrible. Its not a safe car, but a fin car to drive. As long as you dont have kids, you should surely buy the car.

    It ranks LAST in safety, but towards the top in fun!
  • bdkinnhbdkinnh Posts: 292
    >"Its not a safe car"

    I'd challenge that. I'm not challenging the side impact ratings for the one test done, but I'd dispute the statement "It's not a safe car". I bought a 2006 Lexus GS300 due to the expected safety, but it ended up with the lowest rear impact ratings possible. Even with that I wouldn't say "It's not a safe car".

    >It ranks LAST in safety

    You meant to say that it's side impact rating was the lowest possible, right? Instead of implying that out of all the cars in it's group, it's last - right?
  • "Even your BMW salesman will tell you that the crash ratings are horrible. Its not a safe car, but a fin car to drive. As long as you dont have kids, you should surely buy the car.

    It ranks LAST in safety, but towards the top in fun!"

    According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (about the BMW 5 series), frontal offset test is rated as "Good", rear crash protection (with comfort seats) has an "Acceptable/Good rating". I would imagine that will be even better with the new (current) headrest design that was introduced after the tests. The side impact test for front passengers is "Marginal", yet the side impact test for rear passengers is rated as "Good", so your kids should be fine. Please get your facts straight.

    The info is here:
    The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    At the other end of the spectrum to the Lexus GS300 and the BMW 5 series, the 2008 Cadillac CTS has been ranked by IIHS as a Top Safety Pick.
  • I saw a new Accord parked the other day, and something kept drawing my attention to it outside of the new styling per se. I finally guessed, and then looked up some dimensions on the web.

    The new Accord is 3" longer than my 535Xi. That really surprised me.

    Not that the Accord and 5 series are competitors, but the new Accord really highlighted to me the general trend to larger and larger cars.

    I hope BMW does not succumb, and keeps the new 5 series more compact than it's LPS competitors.

  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    The Accords also bigger inside than the 5-series.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,592
    The Accords also bigger inside than the 5-series

    I suspect it's noticeably larger inside given the packaging advantages of the FWD layout, not that I care.

    I noticed a resemblance to the E60 in the side profile of the Accord.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • Greetings,
    The transmission went on my 92 BMW 535 and I live in the island of kauai in Hawaii. I bought the car off a mechanic who did a bunch of work and then the dude left the island. I paid about 2300 for the car and six months later the trans went with only 140,000 miles. The interior is a bit beat up, the A/C doesnt work, and the car stalls on a cold start, but besides that the car runs well (or it did) and the body is in great shape.
    The question is this:
    Do you think it is worth fixing the transmission and where is a good place to get a used one?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,141
    well, considering you are in hawaii, its kind of tough to say where to get a used one. Getting one shipped might not be cost effective. But, then again, what are the chances you'll find one locally?

    Need to know total cost of getting a trans and the install before a decision can be made to whether or not its worth it. I'd say chances are slim. You might try finding a trans shop and seeing what they'd want for a rebuild.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • I found a used one on ebay for 795 annd I got a guy who will do it for 550. With shipping, I'm looking at around $1500.
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