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Lexus LS 400/LS 430

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  • bitkahunabitkahuna Posts: 206
    So besides a groaning steering wheel, for which there seems to be a cure, what were your impressions of the AS [sic]?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    the evil spellchecker changed LS to AS in carlo7's post.

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  • jjsdfsjjsdfs Posts: 3
    Any Specs for next year 2002 model ?
  • jarogjjarogj Posts: 16
    Anyone having any problems with noise, such as squeaks, creaks, etc with their driver's side seat cushion. Especially when moving in and out of the car. I have noticed that near the seat controls there is an area within the seat cushion that when pressure is applied it squeaks. It's actually inside the seat cushion along the edge.
  • greasykid1greasykid1 Posts: 336
    Anyone having trouble with the motorized release/latching. Mine releases & then pulls down again partially. I have to be back there @ release time & raise it manually when it releases to open. Lexus has had a fix on order for a month. Anyone experiencing this problem?Everything else is great as I have had the LS for 3 months.
  • greasykid1greasykid1 Posts: 336
    Now have 16" wheels. Going to change to 17". Need info particularly on 225/55/17 tires--ALL SEASON. Have checked all the tire sites & know what is available but would like to hear some personal experieces on this size tire. Am considering everything from Conti 95 to Bridgestone Revo Z. I'm looking for a good quiet ride as well as improved handling & looks. Real world experience only please.

    Has anyone suggegestions on 17" wheels? Right now I'm zeroing in on wheels from Discount Tire. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
  • bongerbonger Posts: 16
    I have the LS with ashtrays and was wondering if they can be removed and storage pockets be inserted in their place. Has anyone tried this or know if it can be done? I have seen several LS's with the storage pockets and although small, they would be far more useful than ashtrays to me.
  • bitkahunabitkahuna Posts: 206
    Of 'improved handling and looks', 'quiet ride', and 'all season' - pick 2.

    As far as wheels from Discount Tire or Tirerack or anywhere else, there are good ones and not so good ones. For handling, look for lighter rims. For looks, maybe chrome is your style, but that makes the rims heavier.
  • rennyboschrennybosch Posts: 329
    I've been reading numerous messages here describing tire performance and mentioning things like Z-ratings, and always felt totally dumb, wishing I knew what they are talking about. Well, I just found a web site that describes all about tire specifications and performance ratings, and is very well organized. I recommend it to you if you feel the same as I did:


    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/sidewall.htm

  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Pick one.

    Not sure that I would take the LS430 to 17" wheels, that's not ITS "style". I would go for the Bridgestone Turanza's for quiet. The BBS-RR (japanese market only) really look good on some LS'es.

    If you find you need winter tires keep your old wheels and mount all-season on them. Me, I park my LS (GS300 at the moment) and drive my RX.
  • bitkahunabitkahuna Posts: 206
    > Not sure that I would take the LS430 to 17" wheels, that's not ITS "style".

    Huh? Lexus offers them even, and I think they look a heck of a lot better than the 16s. I think the 16s just look way too small for the body.
  • nofeernofeer Posts: 380
    after 7500 miles, none of the above "problems" have occured in this near perfect motorcar. I would only do two things
    quicker downshifts
    redisign the cruise control setup
    came back from lexus link service in columbus oh (wow what service even filled my tank) got on 270 at 65 got 29.5 mpg then on the way home got 28 mpg--that's wonderful mileage.
    We love this car, anything else we drive just is fatiguing. my wife want's to trade in her turbo yellow bug for a station wagon, like the volvo. the rx probably will be resisgn for 03. our loaner rx wallows a bit, but nice, the volvo has more room in the cargo area, we'll also try a highlander. but she likes the volvo--any comments?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    When I bought my 92 LS with air suspension I immediately "stiffened" the suspension with 16" wheels. Having driven the new LS I believe the air suspension has been so significantly improved that going to 17" wheels would add too much stiffness.

    I would buy the LS430 for quietness and "comfort", not for "sporty" handling characteristics, I understand that's the market the GS430 is aimed at.

    I don't really expect to become involved in any car chases or races in my LS, I'll leave that market to BMW.

    17" wheels look REALLY good on the GS, but somehow out of place on the LS.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    I couldn't agree more with your comments. The car is as close to perfect as you can get. I am so used to the cruise, which Lexus has kept as is since 95 and probably before, that it would become foreign to me if they changed it. It works flawlessly which is what counts. I've also never had this groan.

    Definitely take a look at the Highlander - it's more roomy than the RX7 and rides smooth and quiet and handles well. A friend of mine got one a few months back amd loves it. I think the next generation RX7 will probably be somewhat bigger, roomier inside and more luxurious if you can wait. I need 3 rows of seats and am likely going to the LX470 shortly. But if I didn't need the 3 rows I'd give the Highlander very serious consideration.
  • hschenhschen Posts: 16
    There is a slight vibration when I accelerate or deccelerate my 98 LS around 75-80 mph. I can feel the vibration coming from the floor not from the steering wheel. Another thing I noticed was that the wheels (not the tires) got very hot after driving a while. The front wheels are hotter than the rear wheels. After driving on the freeway, I cannot leave my hand touching the wheel for more than 3 seconds. My wheels are stock 98. This is my first LS and I only had for a month. I don't know if that's normal. Thanks.
  • bitkahunabitkahuna Posts: 206
    > Definitely take a look at the Highlander - it's more roomy than the RX7

    I would hope it's roomier than a Mazda RX7 - a 2 seat sports car :-) I assume you meant RX300. Maybe Edmunds' glorious 'spell checker' at work again?
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    Guess I was asleep at the wheel. Of course you are right - I meant the RX300. I've still got that SC430 on my mind and seeing more and more of them on the road isn't helping matters. So my logic is I thought sports car rather than suv when I wrote.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    had you blamed the evil spell checker, no one would have doubted you! ;-)

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  • flint350flint350 Posts: 250
    Now that I've recovered from that "slap" at my personal color choice ;), I have a question from post 1337 by nofeer. How would you (or should I say "wood" you MR. Spell Ckr?) redesign the cruise setup? Bear in mind, I don't know which one you have - mine is the laser and I like the way it functions. If other than the laser, then never mind.
    As for that earlier referenced shot at my color selection, today my golf instructor highly praised my choice and is thinking of buying one for himself. However, he distinctly did NOT praise my choice in golf shots. I tried to explain that none of those errant shots were by choice, but he remains unconvinced. Sounds like new clubs (Callaway Hawk Eyes, here I come!) are in order!
  • flint350flint350 Posts: 250
    For those of you still talking the HDTV talk, pls. continue to sprinkle your legit. posts with some of it. When I finally finish building my media room in the basement, I am adding an HDTV. I currently receive the broadcasts available on DirectTV and off air thru my RCA DCT100 satellite receiver, but no real HDTV monitor yet. I have occasionally watched on my extra computer monitor and its quite good. I am currently torn btwn the Toshiba 65H80 (65" widescreen) and the RCA 6130, a 61" widescreen. Both received good reviews. sorry for the off topic - gee, I love my Lexus. It's trouble free. (for the host to feel better)
  • bitkahunabitkahuna Posts: 206
    If you're interested in a widescreen projection TV, I checked out all of them, and none of them compare to the Pioneer Elite. It's the reference standard. More money, but worth it in terms of picture quality, construction, and ease of use. Consider it the Lexus of TVs!

    They come in 53, 58 and 64" diagonal sizes.

    Oh, er, that Lexus is a cool car! I saw a black LS on the road home tonight - I didn't care for it in black to be honest... just seems too big a car for black... I like the more 'rich' colors, and of course, silver. Still don't like that gray wood interior on some models though.
  • greasykid1greasykid1 Posts: 336
    Front wheels run hotter than rears because of braking forces on the fronts. As for heat...check your air pressure. Lower pressure causes more tire flex & heat.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,687
    I love your color and would still like to see one stationary rather than as a blur on the road. However its' uniqueness (sorry - I've got good news and bad news here)is dying. I've seen a few on the road and in perusing the NY Times auto section on Sunday I saw that my dealer had one in stock and another as a Demo to be sold. Imagine they used it as a Demo!

    On hdtv's you have a few choices and the prices are dropping. You can buy a 4x3 conventional shape hdtv ready set which automatically adjusts to a 16x9 pix with black bars above and below the pix when a hd broadcast is detected or a true 16x9 shaped set. The advantage of the former is that conventional broadcasts will look the same as you have always seen them except with greater clarity because of the better set and better set top box. The hd pix, when broadcast, will have the exceptional clarity, colors and 3D of a 16x9 set and the pix will take on the rectangular look with more width of picture than a 4x3 broadcast (ie in football you will see (say) 15 yds. of turf rather than (say) 10yds.) but slightly less than you would see in a true 16x9 set. When hd is broadcast and captured on a true 16x9 set you won't get the black bars and you'll see more width of picture. But conventional broadcasts will be seen with gray bars on the right and left side of the screen or you will need to stretch the pix to proportions of the 16x9 shape and this will show some mild distortion to the way the pix would look on a 4x3 set. So the trade-off is the blackbars and less width of a 4x3 vs. the perfection of a true 16x9 in hd and its distortion in 4x3 broadcasts. Don't buy a set with the converter box already in the set as the standards may change. Better to switch converters than tv sets. Finally check the hd video ports. Some sets have y,pb,pr ports (Sony, Panasonic) and some have the computer based ports of your set top box (RCA, Proscan models). You can always buy adapters if you have incompatible hd video ports though.

    Host - off topic but fun to discuss.
  • nofeernofeer Posts: 380
    Like the MB it's always on, when you engage it "cruise" lights up, you can resume after a stop, or if you slow way down. The honda has a nice system, I shouldn't have to constantly reset the speed after slowing and stopping, the MB allows me to resume after a complete stop or any speed. driving though construction, and several lights and having to reset the cruise speed drives me nuts. I don't need a separate stalk like the MB the buttons on the lexus are just fine, but allow resume after a stop as decribed, sounds like a reprogram rather than redesign.
  • nealm1nealm1 Posts: 154
    First, the disclaimers: I am sure that there are many satisfied Volvo owners, and I suppose certain aspects of our experience might be unusual. BUT, I cannot think of any single choice available today that is more guaranteed to send a Lexus fan through the roof than a Volvo wagon. We had a brand new 98 V70 T5, which we traded in on a RX 300 because the thing was a CONSTANT source of annoyance. This is a partial list during 2 yrs of ownership: pieces of interior trim literally falling off (happened 3x with different pieces each time, including the entire tailgate). Replaced every lightbulb in the car within the 1st 18 mos (including 3 headlights). Check engine light on constantly. Replaced the stereo TWICE. Left me stranded twice. Every service trip required an appointment made at least 2 weeks in advance, and in most instances, the dealer tried to convince us (typically my wife) that the problems were with us, not the car (although later they had to admit that there were service bulletins on many of the items they originally attributed to driver error). And finally, when the thing was actually working as it was supposed to, the turbo led to significant torque steer and the ride was buck-board rough. (Man the thing would fly, though). I wouldn't touch one of those things even if you were making the payments. Just my opinion.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Does your 98 have VSC? If so I would suggest you contact Lexus or a dealer immediately. It seems unlikely that your wheels are gaining their heat from the tires as rubber will not transfer heat all that readily. It is much more likely that the brakes are slightly engaged due to some possible flaw in the VSC system and the heat is coming from the brake rotors and into the wheels.

    A defective "yaw" sensor, for instance, might cause all four brakes to be applied extremely intermittently, but never simultaneously. Something that would heat the wheels but might not give any other noticeable indication except slightly decreased gas mileage, maybe.
  • imwimw Posts: 1
    I've had my base model LS430 for about 2 months. I have read all of the posts on this topic from post no. 1, and I'm surprised that it took until post no. 1330 for anyone to complain about the trunk release mechanism. It does not pop the trunk open with a sufficiently wide gap to avoid the frequent engaging of the automatic pull-down mechanism on most tries. This occurs whether the trunk is open by remote or by the use of the trunk release mechanism to the left of the steering wheel. The problem is most likely to occur when the trunk is opened and a door is closed before you walk to the trunk. Perhaps the movement of the car body from closing the door is enough to partially engage the pull down feature. I have not yet complained to the dealer about this, so I do not know if lexus has a fix for this. I do know that a friend of mine bought a 430 at around the same time and she has the same problem. From that small sample I conclude unscientific ally that the problem must be wide-spread.
  • rennyboschrennybosch Posts: 329
    nofeer, what model LS430 do you have? I have the Ultra (with laser cruise control) and once I set it to a certain speed, I can "Resume" that speed setting even after a full stop, or anything else except turning the ignition off. You have to go faster than about 25 mph before the Resume (or Set, for that matter) will work, but I guess that's the same on all cars, i.e. no cruise control below 25 mph.

    The one thing I do agree with you on is that there should be a default choice of having the cruise enabled when the car is started. It always annoys me a little (but not a lot) that after starting, I have to go through the motions of enabling the cruise before I can Set a cruise speed (in my case I also have to select my preferred following distance -- one of three choices -- that too should be included in the default selection).

    Of course we would have to admit that these complaints are not quite on a par with nealm1's Volvo experiences, wouldn't we?
  • feverhartfeverhart Posts: 144
    Interesting, imw. I've had my LS 430 Ultra since November and don't remember having had any problems that you indicated. So I just went out, remotely opened the trunk, slammed all the doors and still no problem- trunk remained opened just where it was when released by the remote. From my experience it appears to be not a general issue or maybe my good experience is unique.
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