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Volvo S60

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  • Well, as you said the salesman's explanation did make sense. It just seems that the service department didn't do all the work they said they did, and their explanation of "they all ride that way" was just so much b.s. I took the car to another service center and they showed me on the machine where it indicates one tire still has a flat spot and two of the tires were "severely" out of balance. The ride is already significantly improved and once the other tire is replaced I'm sure I will be more than please with the ride. I guess some dealers just try to make their money on "the sale" rather than building a customer relationship. Unfortunatly it's too bad for Volvo and their image. Ultimatly I'm pleased because I truly think the car is great. It was purchased for my 17 year old son who is going off to college after the first of the year.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Well, before you castigate your dealer, your explanation of your complaint may have led them to their statement.
    When you came here and complained of "bumpiness" that is a term for ride quality, which all S60 T5's share.
    A wheel shimmy or vibration is a different matter and different terminology.
    Based on your complaint here, I thought you were refering to ride quality.
    Remember, going to your mechanic is like going to your doctor. You have to be very specific about what is wrong.
  • i'm a bit confused on the ipod support for the 07 s60s. i remember reading somewhere (here?) that there would be a standard input jack on the stereos in 07 that would support ipods (and other mp3 players). the picture of the stereo on the volvo web site looks exactly the same as my stereo in my 04. also, the ipod adapter is still shown as an available accessory for the 07s. can someone (volvomax?) give us the definitive rundown on ipod options for 07?
    thanks,
    mike
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    There is no Aux input on the 07 S60's.
    Only on the 07 S40's and XC90's and C70's.

    Volvo makes an ipod jack that is a dealer installed item for the S60.
  • ok...we've got that adapter on our 06 xc70 awd. it's an
    okay solution...certainly better than an fm transmitter,
    but not as good as an aux input. although the fact that it keeps the ipod fully charged is nice.

    thanks,
    mike
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,020
    A reporter seeks to talk with longtime Volvo owners. Please send your daytime contact info and a sentence or two about your Volvo ownership history to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than Wednesday, September 27, 2006.

    Thanks,
    Jeannine Fallon
    Corporate Communications
    Edmunds.com

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  • Anyone know a place in the LA area that does good work installing GPS systems/after-market sound systems, etc.? (I've got a 2006 S60 if that makes any difference...) Or should I go to a Volvo body shop and if so, which?
  • HI- well I DID just buy a new 2007 S60 only to have the transmission completely fail at highways speeds after just 5 weeks. I have been disgusted with Volvo's response. The car is just sitting in service for 6+ days waiting for the new transmission to arrive (by boat, perhaps???) Meanwhile Volvo has refused to do the right thing and just swap it for another car and the dealer has given me the run-around. I will NEVER buy another Volvo again. My second car is a VW Passat which has never had problems after 100,000 miles. I bought the Volvo for its famous safety and reliability. The German cars also handle/steer much better. Sorry I bought it.
  • I have the S60T 2003 and have recently been driving all city miles. I checked the MPG on my last fill and calculated 14 per gallon. I'm not a lead foot. Is there cause for concern since my warrant will be up next year. Should I take it in to the dealer and have whatever checked? Is there the possibility of a software problem? Thanks for your time in responding.
  • cj7375cj7375 Posts: 15
    I am on the market for a car 1-2 years old. The choice came down to Accord V6 (2004-2005) and S60.

    I am leaning towards S60 but the wife can not decide. The car is for her.

    What confuses me is what I read here ....

    "S60 2.5T AWD brings still more power and all-wheel drive. Last year's all-wheel-drive model was powered by the same engine as the 2.4T. New for 2003, the 2.5T AWD model runs with a slightly larger-displacement five-cylinder, still using light-pressure turbocharging to produce a responsive 208 horsepower and 236 pounds-feet of torque. The torque peaks at a super-low 1500 rpm for low-speed pulling power. The Geartronic automatic is standard. The Sport Package ($750) adds 17-inch wheels, 235/45R17 tires and T5 model's front and rear sport seats."

    "S60 T5 uses a high-pressure turbo to produce 247 horsepower and 243 pounds-feet of torque for truly pulse-quickening acceleration. A five-speed manual transmission is again standard, with the Geartronic automatic a $1200 option. Aluminum mesh replaces woodgrain in the interior. Power-adjustable sport seats and a trip computer are standard. The T5 Sport Package ($750) adds 17-inch wheels, 235/45R17 tires, and a stiffer suspension. The Premium Package for the T5 ($1995) adds leather and power moonroof."

    In other words the AWD using the 'Low Press. Turbo" will have more low end torque, than teh "High Press. Turbo" found in T5 .... which really kicks in at 4,000 rpm, not before.

    Looks like I will be better-off going with AWD instead of T5 ?

    Opinions are appreciated
  • Volvomax, do you have an opinion as to whether I'm taking too much of a chance messing with the electronics of my 2006 S60 T5 to install the following system?

    Pioneer AVIC-Z1
    HDD Multimedia AV Navigation Server

    Thank you for your input.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,150
    I don't see in the information you provided where the torque peaks in the T5, but according to Edmunds specs, its at 2400 rpms, not 4k.

    But, yes, the 2.5T is more responsive off idle than the T5. Its past maybe about 15 mph that the T5 then runs away.

    IF you want AWD, there is no T5 option. Keep in mind, though, AWD adds weight and drivetrain drag, which probably just about counteracts that off-the-line advantage that the low-pressure turbo provides.

    I suggest you drive both. If you are primarily a city driver, I think you'll find the 2.5T more to your liking (although, if you are considering the T5, I suggest simply the FWD 2.5T). If you spend more time at higher speeds where passing power can be important (or at least intoxicating), the T5 is where its at.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • cj7375cj7375 Posts: 15
    Here is where I read it ...

    "...Driving Impressions
    From inside, the Volvo S60 sometimes feels bigger than it is because its shape doesn't allow you to see the four fender corners. Driven hard around turns, it almost seems like a '90s version of a '60s muscle car. The relatively long throw of the five-speed gearbox adds to the retro feel.

    The S60 doesn't offer the razor-edge handling of the BMW 330i. Pushed through bumpy, high-speed corners, the S60's steering can't keep up. The suspension is tuned for comfort, not hard cornering, so the body leans in the chase. But the ride is excellent, even over nasty bumps, even with the optional 17-inch wheels fitted with Pirelli P6 all-season 235/45HR17 radials.

    The S60 is front-wheel-drive, and torque steer rears its head, especially with the more powerful T5. Stand on the gas and you'll feel a tug on the steering wheel. It's really no big deal, though, as you get used to it. Still, the S60 definitely engages the driver, because you have to pay attention to the steering when you're driving hard. But it's extremely steady at speed if the road isn't too bumpy.

    The T5 produces prodigious thrust from its high-pressure turbocharger, but you need to keep the revs up to keep the engine responsive. The T5 won't impress you until the revs climb to 4000 rpm where the power comes on really strong. At 50 mph in fourth gear the engine is turning 2500 rpm, so you'll generally have to downshift to third gear to pass on a two-lane. Volvo's turbocharged engines get great gas mileage. With the five-speed manual transmission the T5 gets 21/27 mpg.

    The brakes were on the soft side, but the ABS was very smooth. We didn't feel thrown forward in the seat under hard braking, as we have with other sports sedans, including the BMW 330i.

    The steering is slightly heavier in the S60 AWD, because of the weight of the all-wheel-drive system. (Volvo prefers to say it has a more "on-center feel," which is fair enough.) The ride also is firmer on the all-wheel-drive version, using stiffer shocks to handle the weight. We think it's a worthwhile tradeoff to get the AWD's improved traction and handling in the rain and snow.

    We drove over gravel roads in the S60 AWD, and the directional stability on this loose surface was excellent. Power in the S60 AWD is distributed between the front and rear wheels using a wet multi-plate clutch controlled by electronics, and the distribution varies according to conditions. With a steady throttle on dry pavement, about 95 percent of the drive is transmitted to the front wheels; but up to 70 percent can go to the rear wheels when required. The balance changes instantaneously. Of course other automakers say that, too; but the difference in Volvo's Active-On-Demand system is the degree of instantaneous-ness. When one wheel slips 15 degrees, far less than any human can detect, the balance of power shifts away from that wheel, thus replacing the slip with grip. In other words, it's just more secure and better stuck to the road when the weather gets nasty."....

    http://www.automallusa.net/2004/volvo/s60/reviews.html

    Thank you for your reply.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Unless you enjoy torque steer or drive over 100 mph, you are better off w/ the 2.5T, AWD or no.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Find a qualified installer. Most installers are leery of Volvo's because of their complicated electrical systems.
    We had a customer whose wiring harness was fried by an incompetent installer.
  • Good to know, thanks. I'm in Southern California, in Santa Monica to be precise.

    How do I find a qualified installer?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Find a high end stereo store, somewhere where they do European cars on a regular basis.
  • Hello,
    I have a s60 2004 with the body kit, which makes the clearance very low, when i purchased it came with 15" wheels 195/60/15..but was touching everywhere, so i have decided to go for 17" wheels, i know the standard tires are 235/45/17, but the height is only 25.33 inches, But when you look at the S60 with options of 18" wheels, they use 240/40/18 which gives the height of 25.40 inches...So therefore i was thinking was wheather to choose 215/50/17..height 25.46 or 225/50/17 height of 25.86 inches.....WHICH IS MOST RECOMENDED FOR A SMOOTHER RIDE AND ALSO THAT IT WON'T OFFSET THE CAR'S HANDLING? ANY INPUT WILL GREATLY HELP....
    THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.....LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA.
  • I bought the car new (so I am the original owner) and it has 58,600 miles on it. It is in good condition, with only a couple of minor paint scratches. Edmunds TMV says I should get around 10 or 11K as a trade-in value, 12k or 13k for resale.

    I tried to trade it in to get a new car (a Honda) and the dealership said they would only give me $5500 because CarFax says I received frame damage in a wreck I had. I called the autobody shop who did the repairs from that wreck and they said that they had to "pull and align" the unibody to get the new parts in, but there wasn't damage, per se. According to the work order, it took them less than two hours to work on it, so there was not significant damage. Is there anything I can do to get this mark off the CarFax record? If not, any suggestions on how I can get someone to buy my car for more than $5500 with my CarFax report?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,150
    Ouch.

    Have you thought about selling it yourself? Heck, if the work was done well, and I was in the market right now, I'd LOVE to buy a T5 with less than 60k miles for less than $10k.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

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