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Volvo S60

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  • junkitjunkit Posts: 3
    Hi!
    I need to know how does the OverSea Delivery process go...I need deep details.
    I've read that you have to put down a $2,000 deposit, they told me that it's for making sure that i'm buying the car....but if i'm already financing the car, i'm sure I want the car. You know...in my own opinion..the free trip to Sweden and one night in Sweden, is a joke. The $2,000 deposit is just to cover the cost of the airplane tickets and the hotel. But still, I don't know much about this OSD. Really, how cheap is it to buy it oversea.

    Yesterday, I went to a Volvo dealer in Jamaica, NY, I ask them about Oversea Delivery Program(to get more info on it)...the sales man thought I was gonna buy the car and export out of the country...:-D.

    Again...I would like to know more details..Step by Step.

    Thank you.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    It's not that hard, you spec out your car.
    The prices are set by Volvo Overseas. Typically you get a price that is 8-10% off US MSRP.
    They need about 3 months to build you a car to suit, otherwise they do maintain a pool of cars if you need one sooner. You get the airfare and hotel stay in Sweden. The deposit goes with the order. 30 days prior to your arrival in Sweden the balance is due.
    15 days of insurance and registration is included with your price. You can purchase up to 6 months of insurance and registration if you like.
    Once you drop the car off at the port and fly home your car will take anywhere fom 1-2.5 months to reach your dealer in the US.

    Now, it is not always cheapest to buy the car overseas. In many cases, if price is your sole consideration the US incentives are better. These incentives can't be used on Overseas cars.
    Most everyone who takes advantage of the program do so because they want the experience, and want a vacation.
  • junkitjunkit Posts: 3
    It's true, that the price in US is much better. Yesterday I went to that dealer in Jamica...they were willing to take off $5,000 for the S60 2.5T AWD that include the premium package. But still, I want to fish around for any lower price...maybe I should go to NJ...there could be lower.

    But thanks for the info.
  • Nicely put, Max,

    One question:

    How does the OSD price for the 2005 S40/V50 compare to the US?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    TDS base price for an S40 2.4i $21,610
    US Base $21900 + 685 freight.

    Not much difference.
  • s60 2.4s60 2.4 Posts: 24
    As I was looking at Depreciation of a 5 year ownership of my 2004 2.4 I was truly amazed to see how much I will lose. I am very pleased to be a new Volvo owner and would not drive anything else, but it amazed me to see that a 2004 Chevrolet Impala LS had a lesser deprecation value then my Volvo. Even though I considered the Impala LS it amazes me to see the (tco) of the 2.4.
  • 84v24084v240 Posts: 1
    I've been reading all these posts that claim that Volvo's (some or all?) lack reliability. I find this hard to believe after seeing all these old Volvos out there that are still running fine. I don't see many Toyota's, Honda's, or Nissan's from the early '80's or late 70's still running around like I do Volvo's... Especially after comparing the number of Volvo's that are actually sold in the US to the numbers of Nissans, Hondas, etc... I believe reliability is closely linked with durability. If a Volvo is still running after 400,000 miles and 15-20 years, how can we not say it's reliable? It's obviously durable... So, what are the reliability concerns people are having these days? ( I have four Volvos with well over 100,000 miles each and never had a reliability concern)
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,736
    I'll disagree. Reliability and durability are not related. Reliability is how often things break - durability is how long the entire thing will last. IMHO, poeple associate reliability with maintenance and repair costs. Sitting in my office parking lot is an early 90's Volvo 940 wagon with over 300K miles on it. It has been a durable vehicle but things were constantly breaking on it from day 1. It never left anyone stranded but little nagging things like power seat switches that were maybe used twice per month should not break.

    Picking it up one time for my boss from the dealer, the bill was over $2,000. The service advisor said that was very common on older Volvos as their owners loved them and felt they were worth spending that kind of money on. As long as you are willing to pay to ensure reliability, most vehicles will have durability.
  • cmnottcmnott Posts: 200
    ...that they will sink in ridiculous amounts to keep them? It really is a phenomenon that you don't typically see with other manufacturers. What is it about Volvos and their owners? It is almost security blanket-like in terms of keeping their Volvo.

    My 2002 T5 has been excellent aside from a niggling brake problem with the rears, otherwise it is as tight as the day I picked it up. i typically do not get the same car after my lease is up, but this is the first time in my whole driving career (16 years) that I do not fidget in my seat. i don't know if I can leave Volvos just for their seats! That is why an S60R is in my cards...
  • I am glad that this thread has resurface again.

    Yes, the reliability and durability are two different things and are driven by the different intrinsic characteristics.

    However, only the Volvo owners can really understand what does the durability mean.

    What makes Volvo a phenomenon is the choices that company makes in the design. The body structure is very solid, the suspension is built to last, the engines (with the known exceptions of some turbo models)will outlast the end of the world.

    10-15 old Volvo just drives like a tank, it provides, an very justifiable so, a strong sense of safety and a piece of mind.

    And because of some reasonable conservatism in the exterior design, it does not look like a piece of ancient history, because it's already 5 body styles behind.

    We, Volvo owner, are well aware that Volvo has an average reliability, but the average level today is high enough to provide a reasonably trouble less ownership, which, in combination with the rather upscale service (at least in some parts of the LA suburbs), ensures pretty much that high level of brand loyalty and retention, that surprises many of the non-Volvo drivers.

    It gets even better now, when Volvo is a fun to drive.

    We own three Volvo - 1990 740 - as solid as the car could be after 15 years and 150K miles, and by the way - pretty much all the little gadgets works, and I never have a second thought when my 16 years old daughter is out there on a road.

    2000 S80 - great cruiser, good looker, we have a lot of fun on our family trips, and I like my comfortable short business trips so much, that never use a company car (Chevy Cavalier), even if I can. DSTC is fantastic, I have stopped using snow chains on my trips to the ski resorts ever since we bought an S80.

    And we just bought an XC90 through OSD. We spent 21 day and 2600 miles on the European roads.
    It's a great vehicle - versatile, roomy, comfortable, as safe as it could be, fun to drive,
    and with the 7 seats (or huge cargo space with 5), AWD, high clearance and even more sophisticated stability system than S80, can accomodate all the demands of our life style.

    Now,
    I want to disagree with one of the statements

    "As long as you are willing to pay to ensure reliability, most vehicles will have durability"

    It's not true at all. No matter how much money you will put to ensure that all the components are working - and that is reliability, if the entire body structure of the vehicle is "sagging" or deforming, and the major components like engine, transmission, non-consumable parts of the suspension are deteriorating - your car looks like a junk. Being a first generation immigrant from the former Soviet Union, and driving a whole bunch of old Japanese cars (though extremely reliable when they are new), i think I have enough of personal experience to support my opinion. The mass production Japanese car is built as a consumable unit. It's designed to last some certain time, and then all the major components will reach their predetermined life span and basically "give-up".

    The upscale Japanese one, especially Lexus, which is built on rather more durable Toyota platform, and with a bigger investment into the durabilty of major components, is a different story. But than, they are more or just about as expensive as any Volvo.
  • avolvofanavolvofan Posts: 358
    The seats in Volvos are the best that I have experienced. With the back problems that I have, the seats are key for me.
  • s6025ts6025t Posts: 23
    Lev, Here are the BMW stats "shattering" US sales
    records. http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=18642
  • s6025ts6025t Posts: 23
    I was reading an auto rag at the doctor's office the other day. It happened to have a list of reported problems per 1000 cars sold. I just about choked... Volvo was close to the very bottom (worst).
  • karrmankarrman Posts: 3
    I wonder what magazine that was?

    My Volvo is 7 months old and has had no problems at this point.
  • Yes, it's the well known fact - Volvo is average in it's reliability ratings. Some sources will put it higher and some - lower.

    And your point is...

    I do not think that anybody here argues that Volvo has a relatively high reliability. The point, at least for me, was that it's reliability is high enough - but that is subjective, and all we can do is just exchange our stories and let other people to decide for them self.

    I am perfectly happy with the reliability of my two cars that were in commission for 15 and 4 years, and have no worries about my new XC90.
  • avolvofanavolvofan Posts: 358
    The only problem that I have had with my S60AWD in 27 months of ownership was a slowly leaking radiator. The radiator was replaced under warranty at the 15,000 mile service interval; I was not stranded by the leak. I'm not quite sure of the definition of "relatively high reliability"; I don't plan on deserting Volvo - there are too many good things about the brand and frankly, I am not upset over the radiator leak. Maybe this is the definition of high enough....
  • Relative to the brands that lead in the reliability department. I do not think we need to argue that the new Toyotas are more reliable (have less defects per 1000) than the new Volvos.

    And I am with you, the Volvo's reliability is high enough for me. I am staying (and going to stay) with Volvo.
  • s60 2.4s60 2.4 Posts: 24
    I am owner of a 2004 2.4 base. I was wondering if it is possible to upgrade to 7.5 by 17 TETHYS. Currently, I have the 6.5 by 15 MUSCA'S. Went to the parts department today and was advised that the will not fit the 2.4 as they do not have enough room to turn. Just confused at the moment as the TETHYS are an option with the sport package of the 2.5T. If I can go with the TETHYS will it effect my over all performance and or economy on my car. Many Thanks!!!!!
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  • Anyone know anything about the possibility of an R version of the new V50 wagon? Thanks.
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