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Kia Optima 2006 and earlier

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    Hey, serpentki! You used to come here and praise your 2001 Kia Optima. Is it still sitting in your driveway? It is......I'd like to hear an update on how your Optima is performing now. Still digging it?

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    The June issue of the Brit mag CAR has a nice write-up on the Optima, called the Magentis in England. It is only a short take but they mention the excellent Shiftronic tranny, the smooth and quiet engine (the Brit Sonata V-6 has 160Hp and 170lb-ft of torque while the Magentis has 166Hp and 169lb-ft). The top speed of the Magentis with these specs is listed at 131mph but there was no 0-60mph offered. Their listed test data on the Sonata V-6 auto is 124mph top speed, 0-60mph 9.1 sec.

    They much prefer it (the Magentis) to the '99+ Sonata which bodes well for both the Optima and the '02 Sonata, from which most of the current Optima is derived. It will be nice to see what the coming 2.7L V-6 will do for overall responsiveness and drivability in both cars in the N.A. market.
  • giowagiowa Posts: 599
    But what do they say about handling and ride? Esp. when pushed hard? Handling capability, or lack there of, has been a big area sport-oriented car magazines have taken the Sonata to task for. Is there any acceleration figure? 1/4 mile? 0-100 kph? Anything? What did they say about the Shiftronic?
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    Seems to me what I've read has been really full of praise for Optima. The low price gets mentioned as do the smooth acceleration and quiet ride. A great flagship car for Kia, etc. Finish work inside generally is well-liked as is exterior details with the headlights being praised. The taillights seem to be getting the brush-off as having been seen on Chevy's Corsica already, etc. No biggie. I can't recall 0-60 speed figures or top speed figures thrown in though they would be interesting. Giowa-try this review out. http://www.nctd.com/01/mid/01optima.cfm

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • giowagiowa Posts: 599
    So far there haven't been many in major US magazines. One page short take in R&T. Haven't seen any detailed reviews in R&T, C&D, MT, AutoWeek, etc.

    The review you posted seems pretty fair and balanced. Spends most time talking about features, price, and walkaround. Not too much time spent discussing driving. Points out that the car provides decent value. The driving experience isn't much to write home about. Soft setup designed for comfort that doesn't like to be driven hard. The acceleration times with the automatic are leisurely in the V-6 class, more due to the smallish 2.5L V-6 in a 3.0L competitive world. Moving to a 2.7L V-6 will help, but to be truly competitive, 3.0L necessary.

    Optima seems to be pretty much like my '00 Sonata. I prefer my GLS V-6 w/5-speed manual. Just needs a sport package so she'd be fun to drive on twisting roads.
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  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    Giowa,

    Like I said, the review was strictly a short take. It was no more than a few small columns. I relayed the relevant high points of interest provided in it. Whenever a more thorough review becomes available, I won't hesitate to share it.
  • sedanman2sedanman2 Posts: 26
    HELLO,I KNOW I COULD HAVE SAVED 611 BUCKS BY GETTING SONATA GLS WITH EVERY OPTION,AS COMPARED TO OPTIMA SEV6 ALL OPTIONS.MY QUESTION IS DID I MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION , WAITING FOR DELIVERY ANY DAY NOW ON MY OPTIMA.I USED TMV FOR ALL MY FIGURES.OPTIMA OWNERS PLEASE REPLY,THANKS
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    Hindsight is always 20/20. Just because another Optima owner (and I am not one) might have gotten a better deal does not mean you could have gotten the same deal. Not even if you lived in the same town and went to the same dealer as they did.

    And you definitely cannot compare the Sonata with the Optima. They may be the same car under the skin, but the skin is different and that could account for the price difference.

    Just enjoy your new car.
  • giowagiowa Posts: 599
    Am writing this while on vacation in the Adirondack Mtns of Upstate NY. Drove 1,300 miles in my '96 Impala SS. While in Lake Placid the other day I noticed two new Optimas. Didn't recognize them from a distance. Then dawned on me the closer they got. Both looked very sharp. Maybe a bit too much like a Galant, but still quite pretty in a dignified, classy sort of way. Maybe it was the sharp alloy wheels, but I think the Optima is a nicer looking car than my '00 Sonata GLS. And you get the space the saving trunk hinges, plus the shiftronic. No, I wouldn't buy one since you can't get a manual tranny with the V-6, but the Optima just comes across as being more fully thought out than the Sonata. Can't wait to see the '02 Sonatas. Then Hyundai will level the playing field. Hope they keep the manual with V-6 as an option and add a sport suspension/package.
  • astrolastrol Posts: 312
    And let's hope we get the 2.7L V-6 to go with the manual and shiftronic. From what I hear, we should. More Hp and torque never hurt, no matter the tranny.

    I know what you mean about the Optima. It has a kind of formality to it's design...a very classy look. Seeing any car in certain colors may improve the impression but can also have the opposite effect. The Optima grill is a little too overdone for my taste. I also feel the same about the Leganza grill. The '02 Sonata grill is more to my liking and will finally blend with the latest Hyundai family look.

    Enjoy the vacation time. Don't overheat those SS brakes on the downhills. You know what warped rotors cost me.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    of just how tasteful the Optima looks. Kinda Galant-like in the rear but all Kia Optima up front. I, too, think Kia's done a great job of designing this car. Whenever I've seen one on the road I've HAD to do a couple of double-takes and steer the Sephia carefully to avoid collision. I like the Optima in Pearl White but I'd love to see one in black out on the road. I can't wait to see the 2002 Sonata either. Online it looks pretty cool.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • baldguybaldguy Posts: 2
    I think the Optima looks fantastic!! And I love the front grille just the way it is. Of course, I own a Leganza, and that's one of the reasons I bought it, was the looks of the front end. If the Optima was available when I bought my Leganza, it would have been a much tougher choice.
    It does seem they are charging a pretty penny for it, though, if the 6 cyl is ending up at $23,000.
    Anyone here have any 'real life" prices that they care to divulge? It looks like Kia beat Daewoo to the punch with a 6 cyl (the Leganza gets one for 2002, provided they are still here).
  • sedanman2sedanman2 Posts: 26
    ANYONE ELSE HAVE TO WAIT FOREVER FOR DELIVERY OF THEIR OPTIMA.DEALER DIDNT HAVE WHAT I WANTED SO I ORDERED.KIA OPTIMA SE V6 BLACK (LEATHER PACKAGE ABS FLOORMATS)THEY SAID 2-3 WEEKS, IT IS NOW 5 WEEKS AND NOT EVEN A VIN#.WHATS GOING ON.COULD IT BE THEY ARE SELLING MY CAR TO HIGHER BIDDERS?IS THERE ANY DELAYS AT THE KIA FACTORIES.WHERE ARE ALL THE OPTIMAS?? PLEASE HELP,SHOULD I CANCEL?
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    This applies to all cars and not just Kias, but from what I have read "underestimating" how long it will take for a special order to arrive seems par for the course.

    If it is an actual factory order, you might have something of a much longer wait.

    Sorry.
  • serpentkiserpentki Posts: 20
    Greetings! Yes, my Optima is still treating me just fine. I really love this car and spend a good deal of time driving and admiring it - perhaps the reason I have been away from the boards.

    I now have over 6K miles on the Optima. I had to take it in for the side airbag recall. There was no problem with mine but they did make whatever adjustment they deemed necessary. It took about an hour and was painless, got a free car wash in the process.

    Anyone considering an Optima I say "Go for it!" I'm really happy with mine.

    Been busy selling my condo on the coast and it's closing escrow in about a week or so. I will receive a fairly substantial windfall, maybe put in a new pool and remodel my kitchen, I may even buy a new pickup but I intend to drive my Optima for quite a while yet - really love it. -SK
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    I figured you were OK and your Optima was OK just hadn't heard anything from you in several weeks. Yes, selling a place is a very busy task. I understand now why you've been away from here. The recalls (2) on my '99 Sephia were also of precautionary mode and very painless to wait for. They seem to average about an hour and there's plenty of cars to look at, TV to watch,etc. The treatment with my Sephia from my dealer has always been very helpful. Sounds like your Optima is a great car. I love the looks of Kia's flagship car and your input has been very helpful. Enjoy and hope all goes well with your sale and then shopping afterwards. That's always fun!

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • schaeffzschaeffz Posts: 18
    Bought it yesterday, celebrated with fireworks!
    Crisswell Kia, Gaitherburg MD, supposedly the #2 Kia dealer in the US, only had seven on the lot!
    My local Kia dealer, Don Phillips, Frederick MD had two, upscale models.
    Other local dealers in Hagerstown and Westminster only have a few upscalers also.
    I lucked out at Criswell with an LX, 4-cyl, auto, in beautiful shimmering Gold!
    I'm having them put on a cruise control.
    The minimum model is fine, but seems hard to get.
    Got a couple hundred off because my wife really wanted Steel Blue, but she settled on the Gold.
    My test drives of the V6 vs. I4...the V6 runs smoother and quieter in city stops&gos. But the I4 is plenty peppy. On the Interstate, I noticed very little difference, even in passing pick-up. I didn't play with the V6's "+/-" shifter.
    On the road price, $16100 (plus MD 5% tax-ugh!).
    Comfy, quiet on the road, smooth over the bridge seams, and I think my wife is quickly getting over her Steel-Blue-fixation, and is taking all the comments about how nice the Gold looks to heart.
    So...I like it for all the manly reasons, my wife likes it for all the womanly reasons, and my 15-year-old daughter even likes it and can't wait to start her Driver Training so she can be seen driving around town in it!
    I'll be watching here for comments about maintenance and performance and will add my 2-cents as time goes on.
  • schaeffzschaeffz Posts: 18
    I really love my Optima.
    But...there is a problem.
    The trunk "floor" is made of a flimsy thin pressboard.
    I noticed this when I checked out the car on the lot, but it didn't concern me then.
    Since, I have used the trunk several times to cart stuff around.
    When I placed a small but heavy object in the trunk, at a relatively unsupported spot, the "floor" bowed. If I had dropped the object, it may well have broken thru.
    I intend on reinforcing the floor with a sub-floor of 1/4-inch pressboard or plywood.
    Meanwhile, I parked it one day beside a Gold Lexus, and the Optima gleams much more than the Lexus!
  • giowagiowa Posts: 599
    Edmunds has finally published their road test. Mostly good things to say. I don't remember seeing anything in the article about the Optima being the Sonata's sister. Maybe I just missed it, but it should've been clearly and specifically pointed out. Writer lost credibility with me.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    That road test giowa mentions is now linked in the Additional Resources box on the left sidebar of this page - check it out and let us know what you think.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    and the review leaves a Kia enthusiast feeling confirmation of the fact that this midsize entry from Kia merits serious further consideration. It would definitely be the step up I would take if I decide to go bigger in size next new car. The review if very favorable(I'd recommend reading it)and the negatives either wouldn't apply or I could live with them. I'd rather have an honest review though than a sugar-coated one. The upper picture of the silver Optima was a definite printout for me to go in my collection of car pictures. A handsome new car it is. Giowa-it's true no mention was made of the platform sharing with Sonata. We can't just assume everyone knows, either, judging by what I've read on Optima from other reviews and sites. Kia's done a fine job and should be proud of this good looking well performing new midsize car.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • schaeffzschaeffz Posts: 18
    Still enjoying driving the Optima!
    We bought it as a third car, to begin putting fewer miles on my aging minvan.
    Still, my wife seems to be putting excess miles on the Optima!
    She seems to enjoy it too much!!!
    Frankly, if I wanted to spend $23K on a car, I would have gone with a Honda or Toyota and put in a few more $K's, for proven reliability and resale value.
    But...I bought a lower-end Optima. Knowing that the basic mechanical diferrences between the LX and SE are small, I opted for a car with some comfy "luxuries", yet inexpensive compared to what I could get in a base Hon or Toy, or even Taurus. Optima has filled this niche for me.
    Now it seems that Edmond's, and probably other reviewers, will opt for an up-scale Optima to review. Most reviews I think will end up the same as my statement above. Why not throw in a few extra $$ and get a Hon and Toy.
    If Kia is smart and wants to sell lots of Optima's, they should target guys like me, basically poor yet smart, and ship more lower-end versions. Most Optimas on the lots now are high-end equiped.
    Just my two cents.
  • sedanman2sedanman2 Posts: 26
    hello all ,just got my new optima, and i luv it,SE V6 BLACK W BEIGE LEATHER PACKAGE AND ABS,COST 22,314-GOT FOR 20,900 +TAX MV FEES.TRADED IN CONTOUR.GETTING LOTS OF COMPLIMENTS AND DOUBLE LOOKS.LOOKS AWESOME IN BLACK WITH THE LEATHER , SEATS VERY COMFY(FROM XG 300)VERY HAPPY WITH MY CHOICE AND ITS LIKE THE COMMERCIAL,I REALLY CANT STOP LOOKING AT IT!TALK TO YOU SOON
  • I am currently looking at buying a brand new 2001 Kia Optima LX. I am just looking for other opinions from people about the car that I am seriously considering purchasing. My dealer is in NY and believe it or not, i have had a hard time finding a dealer that comes close to matching my current offer.

    It is a 4Dr, Automatic transmission, Passive alarm installed, AM/FM Stereo Cassette/CD player, Cruise Control, Carpeted Floor Mats,Dual Front Air bags, Side airbags, first aid kit, air conditioning, 60/40 rear seat, Power locks/mirrors/windows, dual front/rear cupholders, tilt steering wheel,etc

    Price being offered is $14,595. I just want opinions on if I am being taken for a ride or if I am getting a good deal. First impression is that its a steal but want to know first hand from people that are currently driving one. Its a 4 Cylinder also.
  • ronald15ronald15 Posts: 21
    Kia dealers in the Boston zone are discounting over $3500 off MSRP. Ex: MSRP $15,829. Discount $3580, Selling price $12,249.
  • fangio2fangio2 Posts: 214
    Is that with the same equip as nycjokester mentioned?If so,I say hop a plane to Boston jokester.
  • ronald15ronald15 Posts: 21
    The price I quoted was for a base model. With the equipment nycjokester listed, the price is around the high 13's not including the alarm system.
  • schaeffzschaeffz Posts: 18
    1) Dealers in the Baltimore/DC area are advertising $14595, about "invoice", for the base LX with 5-speed. But... they don't have any on their lots! They are baiting people in. In my checks with dealers throughout the area, few had lower-end LX models with automatic and 4-cyl. I think I lucked out when I found one at about 5% over "invoice". Using autopedia.com you can get a list of dealers near you. Most have web-sites and some allow you to look at their inventory. Saves driving all over creation looking on lots. Also, phone calls don't always get you accurate info on what is in inventory.
    2) Anyway, after 1000 miles, my Optima is doing nicely. Since my wife insists on always driving, I prefer to sit in the back seat on jaunts around town, letting my 15-year-old daughter sit in the front seat. Its one way to get points with her that I can hopefully cash in when Algebra homework comes due.
    3) Another complaint though. The trunk lid opens nicely out of the way to let you get big things in. But, when it is raining and there is water nicely beaded on the trunk lid, it rolls down over the back edge of the lid into the trunk getting thingsa little wet.
    4) The dealer-installed cruise control works nicely. The only issue here is that it is the same off-the-shelf cruise control that I installed myself on my Dodge Caravan several years ago. My initial look in the crowded Optima engine compartment intimidated me to the point where I agreed to pay the dealer to install it. But looking at the job now, I think I could have done it, since the parts fit nicely in the engine compartment. But I'm older and not as nimble crawling under the dashboard and maybe the extra money was worth it.
  • I'm lookin at an Optima SE 4cyl...no leather...what is a fair price? I'm in North Carolina. Is 16K fair?
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