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Hyundai Sonata 2005 and earlier

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  • This is just amazing: the dealership refuses responsibility for the misdiagnosed window regulator at this point. AND Hyundai Corporate cannot get their hands on the Hatfield Hyundai (Columbus, OH) to get an appointment to inspect this cracked wheel well.

    Lemme tell ya, my rose-colored glasses are off . . . and the color is much more brown and the smell more foul.

    I'm pretty darn angry!

    *sigh*

    Well, count me in as a supporter of fast, high-quality light rail because the consumer never deals with the maintenance!

    Hope y'all have a good weekend . . . .
  • drimpledrimple Posts: 47
    Sonatabean,
    Sorry to hear of the problems you are having. I bought a 2000 GLS in March of 2000 and absolutely love it.

    I just took it in for the 60,000 mile service two days ago with 59,000+ on the odometer. The dealership was out of loaners, so they called Enterprise and I got a rental 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT for the day, paid for by the dealership.

    I told them in addition to the 60,000 mile service I would like to have the rotors machined since I was getting a bit of pulsing in the pedal under moderate braking. They said no problem.

    I received a few update calls from the dealership during the day. In addition to the 60,000 mile service they: machined the rotors under warranty, replaced the fuel pressure regulator under warranty, replaced the ignition wire set under warranty, replaced the timing belt auto tensioner under warranty and replaced the radiator cap under warranty. The service manager told me that none of these parts were in big time danger of failing, but they were looking slightly symptomatic so he decided to replace them under warranty since my warranty is about ready to expire.

    I guess it all depends on the service department at the dealership. I count myself lucky to have a good service department nearby.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    While you do have some issues worth complaining about, the wheel well liner is not one of them. It is not a "structural member". It's simply a plastic shroud that helps cut road noise and looks cleaner than looking at bare metal. Seeing as how this shroud can be broke by road debris, you better believe no warranty will cover it. Do you expect Hyundai to replace your windshield when it gets wacked by a rock?? A crack in the shroud is not a problem. It's not going to harm anything and essentially the dealer is right when they said it's cosmetic.
  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    My 2000 Sonata GLS V6 5-speed manual with Pkg 13 has passed 49,000 miles. Had her for 2 1/2 years. She is holding up very well. Other than the brake rotor issue, I'm a very happy camper. Fantastically reliable car that runs like a top. Heck, even the leather is wearing nicely. Seats look better now than when I bought them. (In their original state, they looked a bit too much like vinyl.)

    Ingtonge18... Think I've had my window repaired 6 times due to rock chips. She is a bit cratered in middle, but the repairs are keeping her together. USAA, my insurance company covers repairs for free.
  • Sonatabean, I'm sorry to hear of your problems. My 2003 has been great so far and the dealership has been wonderful. When I took the car in for the engine light problem, I had intended on waiting for the car because I figured it wasn't going to take too long to fix but the service rep told me that it would be better if they got me a loaner-car. I didn't even ask for it, they simply gave it to me. They called Enterprise and got me a Malibu. I had it for two days, no charge. Drimple is right, I guess it all depends on the dealers service department. Anyway, I hope everything works out for you in the end.

    Drimple, off topic note: I'm curious, what was your impression of the Grand Prix?
  • Can anyone tell me if the key slot on the driver's door is supposed to illuminate on my new 2003 Sonata? There appears to be a ring around the slot on the driver's door, similar to the one that lights up on the steering column. The dealer doesn't know if it's supposed to light or not.
  • drimpledrimple Posts: 47
    Bloodclot,
    I liked the giddyup of the 3.8 liter V6 in the Grand Prix and the car handled well. However, the interior speaks too much of testosterone and is too aggressively styled for my tastes.
  • ray_h71ray_h71 Posts: 212
    According to the owner's manual, if your car is equipped with that feature, it's activated for 10 seconds when you lift up the door opener.
  • Hey drimple, I to have a 2000 gls with 54000 miles I love the car but not the service dept. Please say you are in the central New Jersey area. so in could use the same dealer. I had the plusating brake but they would not cover it.
  • The dealer is Sansone RT 1 Hyundai in Avenel,New Jersey.
  • drimpledrimple Posts: 47
    Sorry, but I am in Madison, Wisconsin. Bit too far of a drive for a New Jerseyer, methinks.
  • My dealer is Circle Hyundai in Shrewsbury. They have been great for me.
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    break down of situation - Mom needs a car SOON. she did last year, but she inherited a car that would "do" for the time being. it is now getting ready to die. so:

    she is soon to be in the market again, and is convinced that she wants a Sonata. the reasons are: the warranty and price.

    she requires a V6. so, she could get a V6 in the Sonata, for the same price as a 4 cylinder Honda Accord or Toyota Camry. seriously, her current car has almost 300k miles. she drives a lot. at least 65 miles a day. that is just to work and back. not counting errands. the warranty helps in this regard, since it is nice and long. but a warranty only helps so much. it doesn't PREVENT problems, only pays for them.

    would all of you be comfortable letting a loved one buy a Sonata, for the long haul? my Mom does not know a thing about cars. all she knows it how it feels when she steps on the gas. i worry about what happens when she is driving through the mountains at 100k miles. i know that in a Camry or Honda, if maintained, there is a good chance that she won't break down. do you really feel as comfortable in the Hyundai at that point?

    anyone got their V6 Hyundai's up to that mileage yet? 100k miles or higher?

    thanks!
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    First of all, the Sonata has been rated by actual Sonata owners in Consumer Reports as having "above average" reliability. That is to say, its reliability is above the ever-improving reliability of all cars averaged over the past three years. That is pretty good for a company most of us wrote off five or more years ago.

    Second, you are right that maintenance has plenty to do with the longevity of any car, Honda-durable or not. A car I bought brand new in 1987 was kept in good condition through proper maintenance (following the normal schedule, NOT the "severe usage" schedule) and lasted me more than 10 years before I sold it. It had 227K miles on it and the first major repair occurred at 191K miles (head gasket). Was it a Honda? No, a low-tech Mercury Lynx (Escort twin) with a 5-speed. Sold with original exhaust, original starter, original alternator, original radiator and original clutch.

    My 2001 Elantra has been wonderful these past two years, and is well-maintained. I encourage you to trust Mom's choice, because this company has worked very hard to overcome their past bad reputation. If only every company worked this hard to improve their products. Keep us posted!
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    thanks. Mom actually had a 1983 Mercury Lynx automatic, no a/c, back in the day. got to about 200k miles. i thought she was the only one that bought the Lynx instead of Escort.

    i know that Hyundai has improved. but i am wondering if the improvement is for short term quality, vs. long term quality. not bashing Hyundai at all, just trying to find anyone that has good 100k miles and over experiences. hard to find.....why aren't people keeping their Hyundai's?
  • jimbeaumijimbeaumi Posts: 620
    Wow, I also had an '83 Lynx, but it only lasted me to 33K before I traded it. The opposite experience from my '87's long life.

    I can only speculate that people don't keep their Hyundais for VERY long (if that is so) perhaps because they still fear that the old reputation may come back to bite them. I'm not like that. My '01 Elantra will be with me at least as long as my good Lynx, because I did alot of research that pointed to a strong effort by the company to do better. The effort is indeed showing up in far superior cars than they made in the past, and in my opinion, far superior cars than most domestic products. I am convinced that mine will last for the long haul. Now let's hear from people who have crossed the 100K mark!
  • I currently have a 2000 Honda Accord EX V6 Coupe that I leased that I am now turning in, in a month. I am looking to buy this time, and have had to test drive cars because of what Honda did to the Accord. I think they did a MAJOR disservice to themselves with the new body style, but that's just my opinion. I test drove a '03 Tiburon GT V6, and a '04 Sonata GLS V6. I was pleasently surprised with both cars, but I'm leaning more towards the Sonata. The sticker price on this particular Sonata was $19,333. The only option on it was the sunroof. If I wanted the ABS with TC, the sticker went up to $20,033. I don't like the fact that all I really wanted was the ABS, but it seems like I can't just get that, in order to get the ABS, I have to take the sunroof as well. I've looked up the true market value here on Edmund's, but what have some of you guys and gals paid for a Sonata GLS V6? Or what do you think would be a fair price to pay, cause lord knows I'm not paying $20,033!! And also, if you had a choice between the Tiburon GT V6 or the Sonata GLS V6, which one would you choose, and why? Thank you very much for your responses.
  • I have a new 2003 Sonata GLS V6 with the ABS and no sunroof and i love the car . This car is just such a nice driveing car and for the money you can't buy a car like this for around $17k . I like the car and everytime i drive it i like it even more . The V6 is great it will get up and go i'm up to 95 MPH befor i know it on i4 .I try not to drive fast but in this Sonata V6 it's hard to keep the speed below 90MPH on the highway . I did have new mag wheels put on it last week and wow do they make the car hug the road .I tell all my friends that Hyundai has come along way and there right up there with honda and toyota.I love the way the Sonata looks i get ask all the time if i drive a Jag S-Type the Sonata and the Jag Stype look so much alike .I would tell everyone to buy a Hyundai there great cars .
  • I bought my 03 GLS back in December 02 for invoice price, around 17K and the only options it had was ABS and mudguards, no sunroof. I haven't priced the 04's but you should be able to get something similar for around the same price.
  • Thank you lakelandfl and bloodclot for your responses. I'm getty antsy trying to negotiate a deal here. The dealership I was at last night told me that since I didn't want the sunroof, that they would "deal" on it. I said that I wanted it for free. They said that the most they could do was come down some, but not give it to me for free. It is only $700!! Not to mention that we didn't even start to talk about the sticker price. The guy must have thought I was a real sucker, and that he had me reeled right in, but when I walked out, I knew he was quite shocked. What really made me mad was when he said that there was a tiny markup on the Sonata, or any Hyundai for that matter. And that we all know is BS! I just hate being lied to. But thank you for your responses, at least I know now realistically what people are paying for the '03 Sonata GLS V6.
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