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Toyota Camry 2006 and earlier

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  • I just thought I would give my opionion of the extended warranty.
    I have been the owner of several used car lots over the years and I have found out first hand of the importance of an extended warranty.
    Let me start off by saying that the majority of both new and used company employee's who plan on keeping their vehicles for 100,000 miles do end up buying the extended warranty and the best way to purchase a new toyota is to bye only the Platinum 0 deductable original mfg. warranty and from that point on only do all the mfg. required maintanance and pass on all the dealer suggested maintance and by doing so the savings on these unneccessary services will pay for your warranry as well as put over 1000 dollars cash in your pocket and still have a vehicle which is coverered for almost all non maintenance defects for 100,000 miles....along with a free loaner car whenever your car needs warranty repair.
    I have never owned a new personal car without the extended warranty and believe me I ended up way ahead each and every time.
    I paid under $1000.00 dollars for the 100,000 mile 6 years platinum 0 deductable warranty.
  • rubicon52rubicon52 Posts: 191
    It's pretty widely known that most manufacturers (except for some luxury cars) fit their new cars with cheap tires. A few dollars saved per tire multiplied by 4 multiplied by a large number of cars adds up to a big dollar number. Also, when was the last time you heard someone say that their new car purchase was influenced by the OEM tires? The original tires on my Tacoma were so bad that I didn't have to wait for winter to lose traction. Rain in July would cause the drive wheels to break loose accelerating away from a stop sign. One good thing about crappy tires is that they tend to wear out fast and then you can get something decent.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    I realize they are not great tires, but they are not total crap either. Bridgestone is a fairly middle-of-the-road brand. Certainly, if you live in a snowy place, you should have a separate set of winter tires for best traction.

    All-season M+S tires just means that 25% of the tread space is open so that they can plow through more snow, mud, rain, whatever.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • rutger3rutger3 Posts: 361
    IMO extended warranties are usually not worth the money you pay for them,but if I was a car mfg I would love this item. The Mfg's make a ton of money on these items as most people will not use them,it is merely an insurance policy. I wish Toyota and all others would release data showing the percentage of owners actually using the warranty. Now if you are unlucky enough to have to use it then it will be worth it,especially if the engine/tran goes. If you purchase certain cars like a KIA or some American makes then the chances of using it are greater then if you bought a Honda or Toyota.Keep this in mind, the most expensive items are already covered for 60,000 miles. Many people sell their vehicles before the warranty kicks in, and most dealers are not going to give you much more for your car on trade just because you have the EW. Yes there are some people who will benefit from these but not many. If Toyota were to sell 500,000 warranties at $700 each they would bring in $350 million dollars. They could then pay for new transmissions on 100,000 of them at$3000 each and still come out way ahead.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    I too wish the manufacturers would release that data. The last training meeting I was at, they claimed it was over 80% had some type of claim. Without counting extended warranties, our dealership did over $1 million in warranty claims last year.

    You are correct that it is a value judgment. Just because somebody makes money on it, does not mean it is not worth the price. Also, there are HUGE differences in warranty programs. Ask anybody who has owned an aftermarket warranty and you will generally get negative feedback. Ask the same question to a person who bought a factory warranty and the response is VERY different.
  • I have a '96 Camry (4 cyl), and my dealer wants to charge $600 for the 60,000 scheduled maintenance, which includes replacing the timing bels. I have always had the dealer maintain it, but since I am out of warranty anyway, I am tempted to go to a private repair facility.

    Any advice from those of you who have face a similar dilema would be appreciated.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Perhaps this is old news- but Toyota's website now indicates that a power drivers seat is standard on LE models and a power moonroof is now standard on SE and XLE V6 iterations. Wow. Since we purchased our 2002 Camry LE, pwr drivers seat and keyless have both become standard (we opted for them both anyway). Even more impressive, Toyota has added the pwr moonroof, 6 disc in dash CD changer, and fog lights to the XLE V6. Ahh, the benefits of stiff competition... but can they frekin make ABS standard across the board already?
    ~alpha
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    I think the XLE should have had those things from the get-go...I think Toyota is trying to make keyless standard across the board, only base corollas and echos don't have it now....I love that moonroof on the SE/XLE though! Is that just the SE V-6, or is it the 4-cyl as well?

    ndboomer - you can leave the timing belt to 90K if you prefer...this is a non-interference engine, so the worst that can happen is you will need to be towed if it breaks, and Toyota dealers always needlessly recommend replacement at 60K, because it makes them some money. I don't think you would be able to save a ton of money going with a private repair shop though - the dealer should be doing this for about $200 or so (California rates).

    rutger - remember, Honda's powertrain warranty is not 60K, it is only 36K, same as their bumper to bumper. I wonder if they are contemplating raising this to meet the current industry standard? They are beginning to look like VW did back when it had that 2 yr/24K bumper to bumper warranty a couple of years ago.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • johnxyzjohnxyz Posts: 94
    Also posted under 'Camry Problems'

    My 95 Camry LE w/ 129k miles is leaking coolant. Its at an independent shop now be diagnosed with a $450 estimate to replace radiator, hoses and thermostat. Does this seem in the ballpark as being reasonable? The mechanic said the leak was on a seam of the radiator, not at the hoses or clamps.

    I called a Toyota dealer svc dept and the svc mgr stated it is extremely rare for a Camry radiator to rust out and go bad.
    Am I getting ripped off?

    Thanks for any comments. John
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,367
    ...rust is not the primary risk factor. While it may be unusual at your miles, cracks and splits can occur in the composite radiators of these cars simply from heat and road shock over enough months and miles.
  • drivers seat was an option - one that I paid for -is this something new or just a rumor?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    As standard is brand new, probably just added to cars which are now being shipped. You can check out www.toyota.com for the official word, if you so choose- just click on models then Camry. It says it right there on the first Camry page.
    ~alpha
  • I normally like to get my cars basic service at the dealer. Trouble is the Camry dealer where I purchased the car is about 25 miles away and charges about 20% more than the dealer by my house for an oil change and tire rotation. The dealer by my house (where our used RAV has been serviced for years) used to have a great service dept but the dealership is going down hill and I no longer have great confidence in them. We have a reliable tire place by us that we have frequented for tires, brakes and on other cars oil changes. Any reason why I should not let them do the 2002 Camry. They do not use Toyota bran filters...they say they are certified though. I plan on changing the oil every 3K miles. Maybe I am worrying about nothing but that sludge issue keep coming to mind...I know it does not affect the 2002 Camry...yet. What do you think?
  • looking at used 4cyl Camry's, had an older 1989 that ran great with great mpg. What are the newer 4cyl camry's getting for gas mileage?
    Also test drove a 1994 and experienced an annoying bang from the right rear. My mechanic's told me he has gone crazy trying to find that noise on customer's cars. Anyone else experience this problem?
    Thanks
  • Which is more accurate when buying a used camry? Kelly Bluebook or Edmunds Customized Appraisal. KBB is always higher than Edmunds....which is more accurate?
  • I would normally use Armorall but wasn't sure if that could be used on the dash board, etc.

    One more thing. Does anyone know why the mud guards come in every color except Catallina Blue(my car's color)?
  • Could someone please fill me in on what this sludge issue is? And does it affect the 4cyl,
    6cyl or both? Thanks
  • Last Saturday afternoon, I was backing out of another person's driveway in the middle of a snowstorm, and then heard a scraping sound. My 2002 Camry had just discovered a rock formation that protruded about 6-12 in. above the ground, just off the driveway. The rock left a couple of small dents and some scrapes in the paint in the strip of molding that is just below the passenger-side front door. Obviously, I'd like to repair the damage.

    I can take the car to a local auto body shop that is authorized by my insurance company, or I can take it to an auto body shop that is a "Toyota certified collision center" and which is owned by the dealership where I bought my car. The "Toyota certified" shop is a bit further away. They are an authorized repair shop for several insurance companies (but not mine), but my insurance company would ultimately have no objections if I went there.

    My question is: would it be better for me to have the work done by the "Toyota certified" place, or would it really matter? What would the benefits be? Thanks for your help!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    any place is fine, but you should be aware of whether or not they use genuine parts for anything they have to replace...this can affect the value of your car after completion of the work. Also compare warranties on the work - parts and labor.

    sludge issues: all 2.2L 4-cylinder and 3.0L 6-cylinder engines in Toyotas between 1997 and 2001. If you have one of the affected engines Toyota has warranted it for eight years and unlimited miles against failure due to sludge. These engines were in camrys, the last of the previous celicas, some of the first Highlanders. If you think you might have an affected engine, you can stop by your local dealer and ask them whether or not, but the bottom line is change theoil reuglarly.

    As far as where to have the oil changed, I am pretty sure the warranty will allow you to change the oil any professional place, including Jiffy Lube and the like, but if you want to be sure, you should ask your dealer. Call them up! The only rule to follow with oil changes is that if you change it yourself, you are supposed to use Toyota oil filters, and keep the receipts when you do so.

    letsride: current mpg for 4-cyl is 23/32, or 24/33 with the very rare manual transmission.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    In the newest issue of Car and Driver, the Camry came in 4th place (of 10) in the most recent family sedan comparison test. Predictably, the eminently capable Accord won. I am satisfied by the text and respect with which they treated the Camry (an SE 4cyl with manual), and as usual, the article is a good read.

    However, the comparison tests that they run are becoming more bizzare. In the past, for family comparos, they realistically tested automatic trans. cars, within a certain price bracket, and with min interior volume constraints. This month's comparison spans nearly $7000 MSRP, the cars have a 100hp plus spread, some of the cars have ABS, two are automatic cars even though C&D eliminated the Mitsu Galant and Ford Taurus b/c they are auto only. What gives? Can we eliminate some variables, please?

    In trying to please the enthusiasts AND the realistic car purchasers, C&D is losing its way in some of its comparisons, IMO.
    ~alpha
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