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Toyota Halts Sales of Popular Models - Accelerator Stuck Problem Recall

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  • Got a specific request for a Toyota owner in Minnesota. If you're in that state, give me a holler!

    karen@edmunds.com

    Karen-Edmunds Community Manager

  • yh2009yh2009 Posts: 2
    toyota should give us money to rent a car. It is only 20-30 dollars/day for every owner and the only way to save its reputation.
  • toyota should give us money to rent a car. It is only 20-30 dollars/day for every owner and the only way to save its reputation.

    I agree, but I don't see that happening.

    The Sales Manager at my dealer said to just drive the car and not worry about it. As soon as they have a fix they will notify the owners.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    are on the list of models with sales suspended, except for Tacoma. How long can Toyota and Toyota dealers afford to just not sell these models?

    My thinking would be not for long, especially for the dealers.

    The reason Lexus isn't included is because they are still built in Japan, except the RX. Why isn't the RX on the list? I would be curious to know.

    I'm also curious regarding a news article on my morning news today that NUMMI here in the Bay Area is not included in the voluntary stoppage, and will continue to produce Corollas and Tacomas....

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • halwickhalwick Posts: 45
    "How long can Toyota afford to just not sell these models?" Are you kidding? Toyota will sell more Prius, 4Runner, Yaris, Sienna, Tacomas, Scions and Lexus. I can see people buying the Prius instead of the Camry and the dealers happily selling them for $40K or more because of the increased demand. Instead of RAV4s, they'll buy 4Runners and the dealer will hike those prices up to $50K.

    You'll probably see Accords selling at higher prices too. Toyota and the dealers will survive on selling the different models at substantially higher prices.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,931
    Why Lexus and Scion Vehicles Aren't Affected (Straightline)

    Good question about the RX.

    Going to hurt Indiana jobs:

    "Vehicles affected are equipped with an accelerator mechanism produced by an Elkhart, Indiana-based supplier, CTS Corp. Others equipped with a mechanism made by Japanese supplier Denso are not affected."

    Toyota Details Pedal Problem to Dealers; New Supplier Sought (AutoObserver)
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    I hear what you are saying in principle, but there is no way Toyota could import anywhere NEAR enough of the Japanese models to replace the existing Camry and Corolla sales, and that's before we even start talking about the other 6 models.

    And dealers won't be jacking up prices of the remaining models, because they are not operating in a vacuum. Customers are not prisoners on the Toyota lot and when/if dealers jack up prices they will go elsewhere.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Does anyone know if there is a similar problem on tthe 2004 car ? I only had one experience when I started the car and put it in drive it started to race and I had to keep my foot on the brake and put it in park and shut it off. I haven't had any more problems in over 2 years.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    If a sticking/binding accelerator were really the problem why wouldn't there have been numerous driver complaints to the dealers. Not many accelerator pedals are going to go from NO sticking/binding directly into FULL THROTTLE sticking/stuck.

    How many of us would not notice, pay attention to, the fact that the accelerator pedal is sticking from time to time, occassionally... where are those complaints...ignored by the dealers..??

    Sorry Toyota, the accelerator pedals may be binding up, but you need to keep looking.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    You could ask your dealer. but I would suspect an '04 was still drive by linkage, not drive by wire. In which case you wouldn't have the problem I believe. The dealer is the most reliable source of info here (or you could contact Toyota USA directly).

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sharonklsharonkl Posts: 660
    I have 2006 RAV$ and am concerned issue may exist with my vehicle also. I have not had acceleration problem, but have recently noticed issues with sudden engine acceleration when braking and then go to put in park occasionally. Engine acceleration will return to normal shortly, but is definitely delayed. So far this has only occurred when I am pulling into my driveway to park and/or when I was going to park in space at a parking center. I have checked the locked in place floormats, and they are definitely not causing issues with accelerator I just spoke with my friend's husband who has 2008 RAV4 and he states he started having problems with a delay for accelerator not backing off when braking. while he was actually driving on roads. He states problem started about six months ago. So far the accelerator eventually backs off, and has not had any increase in acceleration. He has reviewed problem over the six months, and could not find he is inadvertantly causing. He is concerned now since recall. Is anyone else with models earlier than 2009 having problems??
  • This car was initially tagged for what they called a floor mat problem with no resolution. I was told to take out the mats until a recall notice was sent. Does anyone know if this latest problem with the stuck accelerator is related to this vehicle. I am totally confused !!!
  • Several sites on the net discuss the ability of dealers, etc. to identify the Denso or CTS assemblies that are on a particular vehicle. One site stated "check the pedal manufacturer, it's the 1st line on side facing driver's door. Its difficult but it can be done". It appears that only CTS assemblies have a possible problem.

    I haven't tried this yet, will post any info I get.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Camry began using DBW with the 2002 MY, the same year they switched to the U140E transaxle.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,696
    It's not in the list of cars at the top of the page for this forum, so it's not included in the second big recall here for unintended acceleration problems. Drive on and enjoy.

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    Prius isn't included in this recall, as it is built in Japan.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,159
    Check the VIN number. If it starts with "JT" then it was manufatured in Japan and has a Denso japanese made accelerator pedal.

    If it has a "J' only then it most surely will contain the affected CTS pedal which was made in Indiana.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    Good to know.

    The '04 Highlander, of course, was still the 2000 design, so it may not have been updated under the hood until they revised the model for 2006 (2007?).

    It may be that eventually older models are included in the recall, but for now I don't believe the '04 HL is. Again, the dealer or TMSUSA would be the best source of information.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,002
    This really crosses the line from "spin" into outright lying:

    DetNews

    Federal auto safety regulators said today that Toyota was legally required to stop selling the eight models it recalled last week.
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