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Acura RL

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    You guys must have some awfully big garages! :surprise:
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    I don't have one of those sophisticated back-up sensors like Acuraphile... :(
  • larry6larry6 Posts: 26
    We have owned an Acura 05RL since early December and have clocked about 9,000 miles. Except for some relatively minor issues -- I love the car... especially on long drives (11 hours) to visit family. Like anything else that I have experienced that is largely wonderful... it has some quirks... but reliablity and the secure feeling on a variety of roads is steady. All those quirks were minor problems... and Acura has been pro-active in taking care of them. Yes, given our experience to date, I would buy another one in an eye-blink.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Larry ...thanks for getting us back on track and it's good to read your posts again. Yep I would agree...it was a major purchase...about 2 times as much as it cost to build our first home including the land in '73. (Only difference is... that little ranch is worth 12 times as much today!) But you gotta love the RL. We just returned from a mini trip to Libertyville, Illinois (a cute little suburban town Northwest of the Windy City). The car performed extremely well on the crazy busy roads we were on during a busy drive time. Whew...glad we don't have to be on those roads everyday.
  • bmgpebmgpe Posts: 62
    I just picked up my meteor silver RL last week. Powerful, comfortable, quiet, fun. It's truly a starship. Flawless.

    I let my son drive it while I sat in the back seat. At 6' 1", 235 lbs. I had plenty of room. Special recessed area in the roof interior gave me 2" to 3" of head room.

    The automatic headlight off system worked properly, starting the timer only after the car's system confirmed I was finished using the vehicle, ie. ignition off and driver's door closed.

    I would advise anyone considering an RL to ignore posts in the forum written by people who own many opinions, but do not actually own an RL.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    I would advise anyone considering an RL to ignore posts in the forum written by people who own many opinions, but do not actually own an RL.

    Of course you would, Jim, er, David, er, bmgpe. :-))

    Heads up, though. Spamming the boards is frowned upon.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    " I would advise anyone considering an RL to ignore posts in the forum written by people who own many opinions, but do not actually own an RL."

    Not a fair comment. You don't always need to own something to have a constructive opinion on it. In fact, some of the more meaningful comments have come from unbiased "third party" observations.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,134
    Only read my posts... ;)

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  • bmgpebmgpe Posts: 62
    Continously posting opinions not supported by a factual basis is probably the definition of spam, isn't it?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,134
    Opinions don't have to be supported by facts...

    That is why they are opinions...

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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Opinions are just that - and facts are objective. Opinions are not necessarily objective, but they all are welcome whether from an owner or an interested observer.

    On the other hand, posting a message in more than one place is defined as spam and your terms of use ask you not to do that. :)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Neither kyfdx nor I intend to be "piling on", we just had a similar reaction at the same time.

    Enjoy your new ride.
  • bmgpebmgpe Posts: 62
    Like any other design, a car is a final product of many ideas, systems, considerations and mechanisms. Understanding the thought process and application of engineering features requires more than just a 10 minute test drive, or reading articles written by others. Only after driving the vehicle for an extended time and under various circumstances can one begin to understand the vehicle as a unified system. Without this extended time period to understand the car, spot observations and comments are often miopic. I base this assessment on the fact that I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a Professional Engineering license in the State of New Jersey, and have designed mechanical and electronic systems since 1977. I rebuild cars and motorcycles as a hobby.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Maybe you are misunderstanding what we are about here -- we're here to discuss cars and car-related issues and how we feel about those things. The things you itemize in your message are not required for folks to participate.

    How about we just move on now?

    Enjoy your new RL - it's a fine vehicle, I don't think anyone here will question that.
  • msu79gt82msu79gt82 Posts: 541
    I would advise anyone considering an RL to ignore posts in the forum written by people who own many opinions, but do not actually own an RL.

    Not meaning to pile it on here; but a couple of comments are in order. First one need not be a rocket scientist to formulate a useful opinion about a vehicle. I am here to help make a purchase decision between an RL, a GS, or an M. Therefore I value opinions from owners of each one (as well as others). Second, many (most?) posts do not even indicate ownership in them; and even those who do claim to own a particular car may not in fact own one.

    Opinions are just that - opinions and long time internet forum users usually have pretty good spam and BS sensors.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I guess it's true --- great minds think alike! ;)
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Well, I have a master degree in quantum physics, a PHD in aeronautic engineering. I have been working for NASA for the past 20 years. And as a hobby in my spare time, when I'm not dispensing sage advice on Townhall, I do brain and organ transplant surgeries! :P

    And I built my TL in my own garage using a blueprint pirated from Honda by hacking into their secured website! :P :P

    On top of that, I grow my own vegetables and raise cattle for meat, in my backyard! :P :P :blush:
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    bmgpe....We as owners have invested much time and money on this vehicle and like most owners I feel the need to defend the RL from some of the "MIOPIC" opinions that we read in this forum, and do, but I do feel that there are sincere, credible opinions that reach this forum from people that know what they are talking about and don't own the car. Some opions are not subjective and can be refuted easily and it might take an owner to recognize that...but maybe not. The hard thing for some of us is to keep our comments from getting too personal...guess I'm guilty there and Pat will keep the forum from getting out of line. Hope you enjoy the new RL. (You have just experienced BODBLE2'S sense of humor in the post ahead of mine and I guess...that's allowable too.) :surprise:
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    jj, you know me too well! :)

    Have a good weekend. I know you'll be out cruising in your RL. :shades:
  • aggie76aggie76 Posts: 265
    Didn't you stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night?

    ;) ;)
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm...Bodble....(Somebody recognized you ... :P
  • satiresatire Posts: 71
    Lease offered to me today from Prestige Acura in Santa Rosa, CA. $3,300 down plus title/license. Still didn't take one home. Not sure why.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,134
    48 months is a long time to commit to a lease...

    $500-$600 per month is still a lot of money...

    A lot of cars to choose from in the $40K-$50K price range...

    Feel free to use any of the above....

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    LOL. As a matter of fact..... :blush:
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    Leasing has been around for a very long time and I know that for business reasons many business people find ways to write off the expense but it appears that maybe in the last 15 years or so leasing has become common place. Most of the ads show lease rates instead of leader prices. Buying it seems has been replaced by a lease and that monthly rate allows the potential Accord buyer to step up to a TL lease for the same monthly nut. Somebody explain to me the advantages (Besides the upgrade) of leasing if you can't write off the expense for business. :confuse: (Old fashioned thinking?)
  • mvc_jonesmvc_jones Posts: 88
    A few advantages of leasing:

    If done properly, never have a car out of warranty.

    Having been in several accidents (knock on wood none lately (others fault), never own a car that has been damaged and doesn't run perfectly right (this got me out of two cars that never drove right again)

    When leasing is done properly with no down payment, use your capital for better purposes (this takes a responsible person to handle)

    With safety features being upgraded often, always own the safest car without having to constantly trade cars.

    I have leased 3 vehicles and plan to go back to owning because I drive very little these days (9000 miles per year) so I can deal with a 5 year old car with 45k on it. But leasing has served me very well, although I have chosen cars that offered great lease deals (i.e. Nissan, SAAB, VW) where I had no money out of pocket and paid about $325/month of a 3 yr 12k lease.

    This adds up to an expense of about $12,000 for 3 years. If I bought any of these cars, the break even point of lease vs. buy is around 5-8 years (i.e. lease cost over 6 years is $24k, purchase would be about $30k with interest, maybe car is worth $6-8k at 6 years, about break even). I generally don't think most people own cars that long and the cost of carrying with out of warranty repairs presents some risk.

    That is my perspective.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,134
    Really... Leasing is just an alternative way to finance the purchase of the car..

    The business write-off for tax purposes is just a glitch in the system that favors leasing for expensive vehicles.. and really doesn't have any effect on the average buyer....

    Some manufacturers really load the incentives onto the lease side vs. the purchase side.. When they do, it just makes financial sense to take advantage of them.. If you are the type of owner that trades every three years, you would do yourself a disservice to not explore leasing....

    If you typically buy a car for cash, and keep it for 5-7 years... then leasing is probably never going to work out in your favor..

    There are no absolutes when it comes to leasing vs. purchasing...

    At this time, the lease deals on the RL are nothing special... I'd recommend a purchase... If you wanted a BMW 330ci coupe, then my recommendation would be the complete opposite... You'd be crazy to buy it... The lease incentives are that good....

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • rajabhatrajabhat Posts: 15
    Hi all,
    We've now got 4000 miles on our 2005 RL. Would I buy it now having owned it so far? Absolutely. There were some problems, all resolved:
    1. Awful metallic rattle when going over ruts/bumps. Was a loose brake pad.
    2. Awful loud squealing of the brakes at times. Dealer replaced brake pads and adjusted rotors. Just fine now; even brakes better than before.
    3. Verizon phone on the Onstar system would not accept incoming calls. Dealer replaced the entire unit, which gave it a new phone #. I notice that Onstar gets Verizon to only give easy-to-remember phone numbers! (so the customers will be tempted to keep it after the one year free connect!) For instance this one's phone # is 52 444 52; the previous one was an easy # also.

    Navigation system is superb and voice commands work fine. For example, "Find nearest Chinese restaurant." Some smaller streets are mapped inaccurately here and there but mostly accurate. Handling is outstanding. Suspension is tight, but I'm fully used to it now. Sound system with XM Satellite is the best car stereo I've ever heard.

    I'm not *entirely* sure I'll keep Onstar next year at $15 a month..I'll have to think about it. But the cellphone built into it works just great.

    Yup, I'm certainly pleased with the car!
    Raja :D
  • msu79gt82msu79gt82 Posts: 541
    So OnStar is $15 / month; XM is $12 / month, and NavTraffic is $3 / month - cost of monthy "service" fees in the RL - $30.
  • nebraskaguynebraskaguy Posts: 341
    So OnStar is $15 / month; XM is $12 / month, and NavTraffic is $3 / month - cost of monthy "service" fees in the RL - $30.

    And your point would be? Other than NavTraffic which isn't available on other cars, as far as I know, the other fees are exactly the same as on any other car.
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