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Acura RL



  • jrock65jrock65 Posts: 1,371
    Acura sold 1310 RLs in October.
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    Honda Legend and Nissan Fuga (250GT & 350GT) are both released in Japan mid Oct. Within two weeks, Nissan sold 6500 units of Fuga. Honda sold 1500 units. Granted, 250GT is at a lower price point. No separate data on 250GT and 350GT available to me. 250GT is driven by 2.5L V6 with 210hp. 350GT would be our Infiniti M35. M45 is not yet released in Japan. It would be announced simultaneously in Japan and US in Feb/March 2005.

    1310 units of RLs are mostly pre-sold, I believe. I am sure Nov's sales would be even better to digest the waiting list. March 2005 would be a real test when Infiniti M and Lexus GS come out together. Right now, RL is only facing Audi A6.
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197
    It sounds like there are still some problems that need to be worked out on the 05 RL. Just browsing on another forum, I heard about the following...

    Verizon bluetooth phone isn't fully compatible with the 05 RL. Currently in the works to fix this problem.

    SH-AWD locking up.

    XM TrafficNAV randomly stopped working and XM claims its not a problem on their side. (DC Metro area)

    The XM and Bluetooth problem isn't too bad, but the SH-AWD locking up is disturbing.
  • larry6larry6 Posts: 26
    It sounds like there are still some problems that need to be worked out on the 05 RL. Just browsing on another forum, I heard about the following...
    SH-AWD locking up.

    I was hoping that you would inform us about that other forum and message number regarding the 05 RL problem of the SH-AWD locking up...

    Have any others been aware of or experienced the problem first hand..?
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197
    Unfortunately, I can't list the other forum on this Edmunds site. I got a warning message from the host the last time I did this.

    If you search Google for other Acura forums, you may be able to find this. There are other RL forums that are very good in terms of finding out real RL owner experiences.

    If there is a technical service bulletin for the locking up, I'll be sure to post it here.
  • The person who said that XM TrafficNaV stopped working came back and said he had inadvertently turned it off by turning off the Traffic icon. He said that once he turned it on the problem went away.
  • >>Verizon bluetooth phone isn't fully compatible with the 05 RL. Currently in the works to fix this problem.

    My understanding is that there will be no fix. Verizon required Motorola to disable certain features that would make it totally compatible with the RL and they did it because they intend to charge extra for those features. As I understand it, if you buy the Motorola from any other wireless service, it will work fine, but not from Verizon. Unfortunately, Verizon is the best overall service for me, so I guess I'm just going to tolerate not having full functionality.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    I'm 24 years old(turning 25 years old soon) I have an 2002 Acura CL with 22,800 miles on it and problem free so I am a little bit younger than the average RL buyer so here is my take.

    Exterior Styling: I defintely dig the 05 RL. It has more of a distintinct appearence than the previous RL. The 05 RL may not look better than A8 but to me looks better than the 5 Series. I did like the previous RL styling(99-04) but it was looking a little dated of late.

    Interior: From what I have seen pretty good except for the fake wood. Whats up with that?

    50K price tag is definately less than the German Competition but when Acura annonced the 50K price tag I was shocked. I was thinking they would price it at 45K.

    In Conclusion: I think Acura wins out here based on reliability and value. The new 5 Series the I-Drive is a diasaster and to me the exterior of the 5 is overstyled. The A8: this maybe the one to beat with classic exterior styling, and state of the art interior but Audi's reliability record is not that good. What competes from Lexus with the RL anyway? Is it the GS or the LS?
  • l943973l943973 Posts: 197
    "Interior: From what I have seen pretty good except for the fake wood. Whats up with that?"

    The RL uses real wood just like in the previous generation RL. Its the only Acura model that uses real wood.
  • jrock65jrock65 Posts: 1,371
    The upcoming GS300 AWD will compete with the RL. The A8 is way above the RL's class. The direct competition is A6 3.2 Quattro.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    "Unfortunately, I can't list the other forum on this Edmunds site. I got a warning message from the host the last time I did this."..1943973

    This problem with the locking of the SH-AWD is hopefully very isolated! It's also understandable why Edmunds would not want the other forum mentioned but there must be some way to at least get the whole story out to us. (like cut and paste maybe)
  • monet5monet5 Posts: 32
    Don't forget besides the GS300 AWD coming the Infiniti M35/45 (AWD on 35) and Chrysler 300C AWD are arriving in Feb-Mar timeframe. In 4-5 months the market for AWD Sedans in the $40-$50K range will have no shortage of selections. I also read that BMW is coming out next year with a 5 series AWD (ex: 530ix), but I'm not certain about that.

    If you can wait for 4 months its might help. The Audi A6, Cadi STS and Acura will have time to settle down and the next cars (Infiniti and Lexus) will hit the market. Deals will be had.
  • I just took delivery on my '05 RL last night, and am quite pleased... light years ahead of my '02 RL. Anyway, I am plodding my way through the various set-ups and have a question about the CD/DVD player display screen. The manual shows picture diagrams of the CD player showing each CD title as well as the titles of each track on the screen. Isn't the CD player supposed to extract title information from CD's and DVD-A's and display it whilst playing? The sales guy (still trying to learn the RL systems... I seem to know more about the car than he does) said they think it will only display "when the cd is recorded in MP3 format," which doesn't sound right to me. Any new RL owners (or technically brilliant minds) have an answer to this? TIA.
  • The official response I got from Verizon regarding their Bluetooth phone and Acura was:

    "At present, the Motorola T710 phone Bluetooth technology and the Acura RL are being tested for functionality and reliability with our network. Verizon Wireless will not offer a product or service unless it meets the high standards our customers have come to expect. Currently, we are unable to provide information regarding which equipment is being considered or approximate release dates, as this may raise expectations that may not be met."
  • bobb1bobb1 Posts: 22
    RE: Verison and Bluetooth - with combining of Cingular and AT&T networks (probably 6 months) Verison may have a real challenge to their top spot. I just got a Sony/Ericsson T616 because others in my office are using Bluetooth in the LS430 without problem. Maybe a couple of months from now you can switch and get advantage of AT&T/Cingular network and a phone that works a little better....
  • I've tried all of the formats and the CD i burned (of MP3's) shows the titles and artist.

    But amazingly, the expensive DVD-Audio disk shows nothing. Go figure.

    Good luck with your car.

    PS - to the other posting regarding Bluetooth and Verizon. I had the Verizon Motorola V710, which did work handsfree with the RL. Automatically linked when you got into the car. Unfortunately, the V710's camera sucks, and the phone was recalled.

    So, as of today, you can not buy a Bluetooth enabled Verizon phone to work with the RL.
  • jjacurajjacura Posts: 808
    It's out now. Picked up a copy at Barnes & Noble.
    This test drive report is excellant.
  • hendjazhendjaz Posts: 155
    I haven't tried the MP3 CD yet but will give it a try. My experience is the same on the DVD-A in that no information is displayed, which is pretty amazing if MP3's burned on to a CD do display information.

    The Motorola v710 is again available at VZW's website and perhaps at their stores again. I have had this phone paired to my 05 RL for about 3 weeks without problems. Receive and send calls using the RL phone buttons on the steering wheel and the overhead microphone. The only limitation is that the phone numbers saved in the phone do not automatically transfer to the RL. Pretty easy to add the names/numbers to the RL memory.

    The V710 camera was apparently off center on some units and that was corrected in the few affected units; it had nothing to do with the quality of the camera. I have no problems with the quality of the camera given the fact that it is an accessory to a cell phone and not a standalone digital camera. The RL, V710 and VZW combination can't be beat, at least in my experience. They are all winners.
  • The T710 Bluetooth Verizon phone will pair with the RL for normal phone use. However it is currently incompatible with the data transfer mode of diagnostic information from the RL to the dealer and return.
  • I haven't experienced any problems with my RL and I picked it up on October 19th. l943973],I would be careful saying that there are problems with a particular item until you've seen many people confirming one person's opinion and hopefully this would be confirmed by "actual" owners of the vehicle.

    The gentleman that mentioned XM Nav had chalked his problem up to user error by the 2nd of Novemeber, 48 hours before your most recent post.

    The bluetooth connectivity relates to each phone/service provider and has little to do with the Acura or the RL.

    SH-AWD locking up...I have no idea about this one, all I can tell you is WOW, what a car I"m amazed with the ride.

    For those that haven't had the opportunity to drive an RL, believe me, it stacks up extremely well with any car in this segment.
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