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  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    Just seeing if anyone followed teh new link. I got the platinum injector today and hooked it up. I'll let you know the results.
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    I read the web site sounds almost 2 good to be true. I expect some low 6 0-60 times from you. I live a few miles from Boeing... they build F-15's and F-18's. Trying to boost one of those nasty GE 7000 HP jet engines to mount on the trunk... still a few bugs in this plan... I'll keep you posted.
  • ruskiruski Posts: 1,566
    fuggetabout thoswe engines, just get yourself a JATO (jet assisted take off) engine or two.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    It does sound to good to be true. But with a 120 day money back guarantee. We shall see.
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    I just read in the performance trend section of Motor Trend, that Midas has a new low restriction muffler series. They are black and look just like an SSEi muffler. H.P. gains are said to be around 10, and a nice tone is said to be present. In ST. Louis we have a lot of hoosiers. Most of them buy new Dodge or GM pick ups and immediately install loud nast sounding sounding dual exhaust. I can't believe all these guys are voiding their warranties. There must be some factory lee way here on exhaust issues.
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    we are missing a few guys here... never leave a man behind!
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    What issue of motor trend?

    Intense and dmckeown are both mia. I'll shoot them an email and see what is up.
  • I'm still here. Just frustrated by working too many hours to get under the hood and play...

    Let's see - I've been driving my new SSEi about four months now, and I have 23,000 miles on it. The new Michelins already have 20,000, believe it or not.

    So, who's going to be the SSEi exhaust guinea pig?
    I laid under the car and did the rough sketch. I was hoping someone else would have reworked his exhaust by now...

    I've got an idea on Cold Air. I saw a Mustang the other day with a cold air inlet scoop tucked right in front of the front air dam. We could do something like that, starting right under the left driving light. The oval or rectanglar shaped hose could go back about a foot (maybe less, can't remember) and then take a 90 degree turn and go straight up. From there it could go through a low restriction airbox of some kind (maybe from an LS1 T/A), and then take another 90 into the Throttle Body/Mass Airflow Sensor. I think the results would be simple to construct, and produce very cold, unrestricted airflow. What do you folks think of this concept?
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    I had thought of the scoop underneath, but I was concerned with the extra dust that would pick up. You would have to wash the filter weekly.

    Headed away for vacation in a week. Hopefully when I get back I can finish my CAI.
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    The performance trends section on page 116, has 2 or 3 viable muffler combos... the Midas struck me as the best deal for the $$$. Oct. 2000 issue.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    By law, the automaker can't void your warranty for exhaust mods unless they can prove the mods screwed something up.
    "Nope, we're not replacing the alternator under warranty because this exhaust system isn't stock."

    The modified exhaust system won't be under warranty, and anything (emissions control, ect,) it messes up won't be, but everything else should still be covered.

    Just FYI
  • L8_ApexL8_Apex Posts: 187
    In the winter, I had to pick the "packed" snow from my cold air intake on my '87 Mustang. This is something for those of you in Northern climates to consider...
  • I'm new to this site so I don't know if you have talked about this before. I was on the Borla web page and I noticed they had a exhaust kit for the Grand Prix. I wonder if it would fit our Bonnevilles. Is the under body the same or similar?
  • Wife and I love this car, Yrs after 94 they changed the rear spoiler yuk,and Burns Pontiac mechanics in South NJ tried to use it as a their track car as well as their money pit but I put a stop to it by eating some minor repairs during my extnd wrrnty and not takin it in -anywhere- and what do ya know barley a problem since 1995. 72K and no alternater-transmission all the above hd-aches I've read about. Moral-Blame the five course technicians who quite frankly could care less about you coming back every 5 months before calling the car names. There Burns Pontiac Bite Me. Adam:)
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Has anyone recently compared the new Bonneville SE or SLE to a new LeSabre? Both cars interest me, as a turnpike cruiser, and I wonder how the ride, comfort, sound level, power, etc compare. I own a '90 Grand Marquis and hope to trade next year - will consider both of these as well as another Gr Marquis and possibly a Maxima or ideally an I-30 (quite an assortment - can't wait to start driving them). Will probably look for a model 2000 year lease turn-in late next year.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    Sorry the borla exhaust won't fit. Need to do a custom job.
  • I have, I saw a Lesabre in a parking lot the other day and I think it's too round and looks like an old peoples car. The Lesabre has a boat like ride because of it's soft tuned suspension. Now the SE Bonneville, has a tighter suspension and sportier styling, better looking cloth interior,(well I think so anyways :) And still the same roomy interior dimensions as Lesabre. Leather is also available on the SE. If you want an SLE Bonneville, those are even nicer, they have pretty much the same interior content as the SSEI Bonneville, but are a little cheaper, $28,000 (base Price) compared to the SSEI's $32,000 (also base price). Also the seats on the SLE, are a little more cushiony than the SE's, Oh they're comfy :) I sat in an SLE and I noticed the difference between the two's seats immediately. Both Bonneville and Lesabre are well built, and have very low interior sound levels. Hope this helps.
  • If you'd like to know, there are 2 Lesabre trim levels, custom and Limited. Limited is available with leather and standard other goodies like the power drivers seat and such. I don't know what's standard on the Custom, perhaps a trip to Buick.com is in order :)
  • Has everyone gone away? Or Am I missing some big party? I Got some more information for you Tpken, load leveling is standard on both Lesabre and Bonneville. Bonneville SE standards, Foglights are standard on as well as power mirrors, door locks, and windows,cruise control,systems monitor (coolant, oil pressure, battery voltage and parking brake light) Bucket seats with rear air vents, Delco 100 series Cassette AM/FM, Cd player is optional, pollen filter optional, rear seat pass through, note, that is not available on Lesabre, and power passenger seat is standard.
  • Power DRIVER'S seat that is NOT STANDARD
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    I agree the Bonneville is far sexier looking than the LeSabre, and the SLE model sounds interesting if the seats are that noticeably more comfortable. Have you (or anyone) test driven the Bonne vs LeSabre? I wonder about the ride on the two - my guess is that the Bonne is smooth but more controlled feeling then the Buick. However, I've read that the LeSabre Limited with the perfomance pkg is pretty decent. I have not liked past full sized GM 'floaters' - watch one cross a bridge expansion joint and count/time the front end bounces. Pass the dramamine please!
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    I drive a LeSAbre with the Performance packange and did not care for it at all. Way too much body roll and still an annoyingly firm suspension.

    I bought a 2000 Bonneville SSEi and love it. I touch to much body roll, but I am taking care of that.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    I really need to proof my posts.

    Should say "I drove a LeSabre..."

    and "A touch too much body roll..."

    That the english problems. Grammar?????
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    My wife called. UPS just delivered my Saner rear anti-sway bar and the urethane endlinks for the front. Wonder if I can get them on before this weekend. Intense, How big a job? Any suggestions?
  • Real busy at work and home so haven't posted lately ,2000 SSEi is running strong at 12k with CAI,3.25 pulley and 185 deg. therm . Just started to get a noise in the passenger door , goes away for awhile if you lift up hard on arm rest , also started to notice a slight vibration in drivers side mirror at 75 mph so I will start a list to bring car back to dealer soon .
    We had some cold mournings recently here in upstate N.Y. Last week it was 42 deg. out at 6:00 am and Bon was unbelievably responsive . At a stop a new Audi A6 was a head of me and with no other car's around he really got on it . Sorta got me in the mood so I pulled out and when I saw 24 mph on the heads up I thought I was safe to floor it but she brook the tire loose big time and I had to let up a bit , it must of been heard by the guy in the Audi cause about a half mile away we entered the expressway on ramp he really took off .I was happy to see no other cars any where so I went WOT and Bon had him by the end of the ramp , three big green digits on the windshield . I let off , set the cruise and watched him keep going . I had just filled up with 100 octane the day before so it was a little skewed in my favor . Intercooler is needed here
    Snickle - how is the platinum injection working ?
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    Not sure yet. I had a bad fitting. Just got the replacement. Will let everone know soon. I will try to run some autotaps.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    I haven't been posting; just reading, because I can't make modifications to my leased SSEI. I wish I could because I would love to get the performance you guys are experiencing. I still have fond memories of my '86 Regal Turbo with intercooler. The stock 2000 Bonnie SSEI will have to be good enough for me! I now have 10,000 miles on it and besides the door rattles, same vibration in driver's mirror as dmckeown (except I get it at all speeds, even when idling), and a strange spring like noise from the steering column, I love my Bonnie. I still say the glove box and cup holders are a joke.
    I rented a 2001 Grand Prix while vacationing last month and experienced the same driver's side mirror vibration and steering column noise; must be a 2000/2001 Pontiac thing. My dealer (who is very good) stated that the mirror can't be improved and they aren't going to take apart the steering column unless there is a functional problem. I've learned to live with both.
  • Snickle- did you go with the one inch bar?

    Before you put the new bar on, go out on an empty highway and do a few transient response tests (super quick lane changes). Note how much understeer and body roll you have. Not bad for a four-door.

    Now go home and jack the rear end up plenty high, and set up a couple jack stands.

    The old, small, hollow, wimpy, rubber jointed bar comes out in about five minutes.

    The new large (hope you went with the 1"), solid, polygraphite jointed bar will slide in with some jiggling and wiggling.

    Use pliers to compress the frame mounts together before trying to bolt them on.

    I had to invert the end link bolts to get the nuts started.

    The whole job will only take an hour. In my opinion, this was a GREAT INVESTMENT. Low price, easy installation, serious performance enhancement, and no side effects.

    Go back out and redo the transient response tests. You won't believe the difference. Mine feels like a different car!
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    Yes I got the 1" bar. I thought about trying to put it on after dinner, but I only had an hour of light left. I'll do it tomorrow after work.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    I also got replacement front end-links. I'll drive with just the rear-bar for a while, then put on the front links. I also have front poly frame bushings on order but Saner is having trouble finding them to fit a 30 mil bar. He said should be a week or two. Maybe they will come in before I do the front links.
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