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Pontiac Bonneville



  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    GM's most recent sales analysis: "Bonneville sales were up 10 percent vs. 2000." Hooray! The bad news: the Orion plant is down all week, 3200 workers idled. Not making more cars this week...
  • that no one missed me ! LOL

    Hi Again - I'm likely making my last post here -

    I have taken a mistress . . . . I bought a 1980 Z28 and am starting the restore / mod program that wont leave me much time for the SSEi anymore.

    Here's the Bonne update - it has about 45,000 miles, running strong as ever, the smaller pulley and open air intake helps that - but the rest of the car is still something to be proud of. I have had that ISS clunk for about 6 months now - maybe more, just didnt want to have no car while they fixed it.

    Now that I have the Z - im not too concerned about the bonne - ( a shame really, considering how good she was to me) and Im goinf to spend the winter with my head inside the engine bay of the project.
    I just want to say thanks to everyone here - you have proven to be a helpful, friendly bunch of folks, and I wish you all the best for the holiday season - no matter which holiday you recognize.

    Peace to all. . . . .

    Dennis aka Homer
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    Sorry to see you go but to quote Arnold Schwartzneger(sp), you'll be back.

    If you need lots of good information about your 80 Camaro, go to "http://" for as much information as you could ever want. There is a wonderful seach function there that has helped me immensely with the restoration of my 1970RS. In fact, the Bonneville is sitting outside while the axle for the Camaro takes up its spot in the garage.
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    what is the rear end doing in the garage. I remember many junk yard trips and parts bin head aches trying to get the ratios changed back in the 70's. Some ratios were not available due to different carriers 2:41/2:73 had one, for low end trans am and camaro automatics. The 4 speed cars had a different carrier that would take 3:08/4:11.
    Then there was the 10 bolt/ 12 bolt dilema... good luck. My 79 trans am has a 3:73 or 3:90... I hate it and wish I had the factory 3:23. SSEi is running great. The 180 thermostat is showing itself with the colder air. I believe it will smoke my old T/A.
  • Thanks - someone in the local f-body club tipped me off to that site when they heard about the project. I have been there lots - taking notes - making plans - contacting parts sources - etc etc

    Im Homer2 there -

    you are right - I'll maybe pop back once in a while , but the time frames will keep getting longer - until the lease co takes her back next November . .
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I haven't really written in to say goodbye to the people at the Pontiac forums (Grand Prix/Bonneville) because I may still stop by with a question here and there.

    I got started posting at Edmunds when I was car shopping last spring and just kept it up because the Pontiac people I posted with were a nice group.

    But the truth is, I know very little about cars. Eight or nine months is a long time to post on a topic that one knows little about so I've simply run out of things to discuss.

    You've all been very helpful with any questions I've had and I thank you for your help!

  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    I'm doing a total restoration on the car, something I started, believe it or not, nearly 19 years ago when I told my wife I was just going to overhaul the engine, it would only take a month, we didn't need a second car for a month. New job, graduate school, two kids, lots of work travel and not a lot got done although I did completely redo the engine, frame and undercarriage. I've now replaced the panels and finished painting it last month. To your question about the axle, I took everything back apart(springs, gas tank, sway bar, axle) and applied a few things I've learned over the years. It is now back in the car but my wife has claimed dibs on the other spot in the garage. Actually, she's been a saint about the whole thing over the years and giving up the Bonneville's spot is the least I could do.

  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Merry Christmas to all you Pontiac fans! And best wishes for a happy and healthy New Year.

    Stacy - we'll miss your posts here. Hopefully in this past year you've learned a bit more about what is a favorite topic for many of us - our cars! It's been a pleasure to see you here and in Grand Prix land. Best wishes for many enjoyable miles and years with your Pontiac.

    Everyone else - enjoy the holidays, especially the family times and events. Please remember to be careful on the roads - especially the evening hours as partiers are driving home full of holiday 'cheer'!

    Best wishes to all.

  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Best wishes to all! Remember to keep in mind what is most important; Family and safety.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Did anyone receive any automotive presents for Christmas? I found in my stocking a new Accutire pressure gauge - backlit for night use - a very handy little gadget. Santa must have seen the Sears sale last week!

    No white Christmas right here in south coastal Maine - but I see that Buffalo had 2 feet of snow yesterday! My kids will be disappointed of none falls here during vacation.

    Best wishes to all

  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    Santa brought me A Pictorial History of Chevrolet 1958-1960, which is a collection of photographs from the GM archives. Very cool book! I also recommend 75 Years of Pontiac, which I bought several months ago, for all Pontiac enthusiasts who didn't find it under the tree this year. ;-)
  • I recieved a great book with pictures of abandoned cars. Brings a tear to your eye when you see some of these old cars left to rust away.

    Hard to believe that another year has gone by. Only a few days left in 01.
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    First let me say that I hope that all of you were able to enjoy the holidays as much as we did. I guess as we get older, we are able to enjoy the time that our kids are able to spend with us considering that they both live an hour away in Chicago.
    Now that I have your attention with my title, the Chicago Tribune had an abbreviated review this Sunday of the 2002 Bonneville SE. So as not to violate any copyright laws, I'll put what they said in quotes.
    "Exceptional ride, superb handling, outstanding performance. The '02 Pontiac Bonniville delivers on all counts.
    You also enjoy quick steering response and the ability to go in the direction pointed, thanks to traction control that helps you get-and keep-going when rain or snow covers the pavement.
    Four-wheel ABS, front and side air bags and such amenities as air conditioning and power doors/windows/mirrors.
    What more could you ask for?
    What we would ask for is a major styling overhaul. Bonneville was last given a fresh look for the 2000 model year, but the car has not aged gracefully.
    Bonnevelle looks a little saggy and baggy and needs to sport a more muscular design in keeping with its performance character. Pontiac excitement is supposed to start when you take your first look, not after you take your first drive."
    Gee, you think we look "saggy and baggy"?
    I guess that, as always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    Considering that the reviewer mentioned "superb handling", did the '02 SE add a rear stabilizer bar that the earlier SE's didn't have?

  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    It would be too much to ask for any auto manufacturer to update styling after only three model years. With the investment made for the change between 1999 and the "fresh look" of 2000, I doubt any major changes would occur before the 2004 comes out.
  • ehaaseehaase Posts: 328
    The Bonneville is supposed to be discontinued by 2004 or 2005, so there will probably no more significant changes. The Bonneville does not sell well.
  • Sales up over 10% this year from last year for the Bonneville. Might been a good sign for the future of the Bonneville.
  • Automotive News Data Center has the numbers as : 2001 thru November 46,087, 2000 thru November 62,383.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Mark - It's interesting that the reviewer did not mention the SLE and SSEi models have more aggressive looks than the SE model. One would almost wonder if the reviewer was aware of the differences. And the handling remarks sure sound better than others had said of the SE in pst years. I don't think the sway bar is std yet either - perhaps his car had one installed anyway.

    Can't argue with his summary of the ride and handling. Mine is just the way I like it. BTW, my Aquatreads have been on for almost 2 weeks now - had one rain storm to try them out in - very grippy. Dry handling seems ok too but at 80-85mph you can just barely hear a bit of tire whine as Tirerack suggested. No snow here to try out that handling yet.

    Happy New Year to all.

  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    It does make you wonder sometimes about the car review process. I know it isn't practical for the reviewers to actually drive and review every variation of a particular model but it would seem that they could at least mention what else is available in a given model they are reviewing. I was looking at Motor Trend today and they have a table of all the cars they have reviewed over the last several years and what performance specs they were able to run. The 2000 SSEi is listed at 0-60 in 7.5 seconds while the GTP with the same engine although a lighter body is listed at 6.8 seconds. Maybe axle ratio has something to do with it but I simply don't believe there is that much difference between the two models or that the SSEi is that slow.
    Saggy and baggy indeed. Cancel my subscription.
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