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Pontiac Bonneville



  • trucker50trucker50 Posts: 148
    Looking at a 2001 SSEi with 27,000 miles on it with sunroof....what did these cost new and what would be a fair price for one?
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    Value depends a bit on whether or not it has any other options (slider, chrome wheels, etc.) and mostly on regional demand. Still, it should fetch around $19k for that kind of mileage. I think they went for around $32-33k back in '01.

    Hope that helps.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,476
    "One interesting bit of news from the sales manager was that the '05 Grand Prix GTP will have a 5.3L V8--still FWD. "


    Has anyone else heard this?
    - Ray
    Cross posting to GP board . . .
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    I called the Pontiac Cust Service # today- 1-800-620-7668. the Service Rep claims my VIN# is not being re-called- I guess not ALL cars made from 3/1/97 to 8/31/98 with the L36 engine have a bad Delphi Fuel Pressure Regulator- at least not according to the Pontiac Rep that I spoke to.I hope this guy wasn't giving me a BS Line! I'll still be watching out for anything in the mail from GM in the next few months!
    Anyway- just thought I'd pass this on to any other members who have a Bonneville built between those dates with the N/A L36 Engine.- Give Pontiac a call and give them your VIN#
    they'll let you know if your car is on the recall list and needs a Service Request # or if your car
    is OK.
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    It's only talk right now - I've not seen any official announcement on it. Originally called the "Grand Prix Autocross", some are dubbing it the "Grand Prix GXP" and are talking about it coming to market for March '05.

    This fits with the strategy to make '05 as the final MY for the Bonneville by presenting the Grand Prix as a good alternative for Bonnie buyers (which aren't exactly legion). The thinking is that SE buyers might opt for the redesigned Buicks (the all-new LaCrosse or the refreshed-for-2005 LeSabre) and Bonneville SSEi/GXP buyers will opt for the Grand Prix GXP with SLE buyers shaking out somewhere between the two - and being the most likely to jump to the competition (e.g. Acura TL).

    I suspect that GM would want to be coy on this announcement: it would seriously harm sales of current GP Comp Gs and Bonneville GXPs if buyers thought that a 350 hp GP was just a year away.

    Here's all I could find on the GP Autocross: GM Media: Pontiac Grand Prix Autocross - SEMA 2003.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    The main reason that you could have got the answer that your can is not recalled, is that GM hasn't recalled them yet. Therefore no vin listing is available to customer service or dealers. Once GM issues the recall, the vins will be available. Once a manufacturer makes a decission to recall a car, they have to notify the NHTSA, which lists the info. It still can be months before the actual dealer/customer notification takes place.
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175

     If GM issued a recall # -03054B does that mean they already know what vehicles to recall?

    I'll just keep aware of it over the next few months.
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    When GM issues the recall it will be numbered 03054B. As of now they know the cars that will be recalled, they just haven't made it known. If I recall reading that associated documentation at the NHTSA site, it showed a draft copy of the GM to dealer bulletin but didn't include the vin ranges.
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    Thanks again!!!
  • montanafanmontanafan Posts: 945
    Another thought has come to me. I have read that people who register with GM at , get notified as soon as GM puts the recall info in their systems, and well before the letters go out.
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    I,m already registered at with my cars VIN etc. -no recalls according to GM, so i'll just wait and see what happens.
    Thanks again for all of your info.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Hello all! The trip to Fla was fantastic and the weather ideal in the low 80s. Back to the daily grind now!

    On the way to work this morning I passed a car carryer loaded up with new 300s. Very impressive looking at first sight and definitely better in person than in the photos I've seen to date. However the toothy grille is certainly an attention grabber - and it's so odd now to see such a throw-back to the big chrome grills of a few decades ago.

    I do prefer the classy front styling of the GXP to the 300. GXP is just so elegant from every angle.
  • bunky36bunky36 Posts: 94
    The doctor's black GXP that I mentioned earlier (without the sunroof) arrived at the dealership yesterday. They called me so I could go take a look. It had just rolled off the truck and it was an overcast day with rain forecast so it was very grey out. The car was filthy from the trip, and had the white protective plastic all over it, so all in all it was hard to gauge its beauty as a black car. The seats and carpeting were all pretty much covered in plastic, but the dash was uncovered. The black chiclets and the carbon fibre touches looked pretty good against the silver-faced instrument cluster and the dark pewter interior, as did the brushed aluminum touches on the shifter, pedals and elsewhere. I think it will really look sharp all cleaned up with the black exterior. I couldn't drive it, of course, but the keys were in it and they started it for me. The Northstar V8 sound through the performance exhaust system was clearly V8-sounding, but rather unique I thought. Not as throaty as the GTO (they have a couple GTO's in stock which I have heard running), but nice at idle, and aggressive-sounding when goosed a little. Ought to sound great at WOT. Just right for a performance sport sedan. They have 5 more GXP's coming--all on speculation--no firm sales/orders--another black one, a white one, a greystone one, and two others.
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    welcome back !- Hope you brought some of that warm Florida Temps with you!!!!!- looking forward to a nice WARM FRONT (over 75) ASAP!!!

    I have not seen either the new 300's or GXP'S in person-
     But just on pictures- I also like the front of the GXP and the overall style of the GXP over the Chrysler.

    I'll admit, as a present Bonneville owner, I'd favor the GXP, but if that front grille were different, I would give the Chrysler serious consideration.
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    I can't believe that I have to still wait till the end of this next month before a GXP arrives and your local dealer will have had 6 already in!!!

    Thanks for the info- I think i'll be giving my local dealer another call this week and try and find out what's causing the delay.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    The local cable company will draw 3 GXPs to new subscribers...
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,682
    cable company price gouges, it'd be cheaper
    just to go out and buy one myself!!!
    Time-Warner... for those who wonder.

    This message has been approved.

  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    Three GXPs? Wow, usually a company will only give away one car if any. I guess Time-Warner has some extra spending money? Here they changed their name to Bright House Networks, but nothing else changed (at least they didn't raise the rates any more than usual).

    Well, despite dreaming about upgrading my SSEi to a GXP, I went and got a new Avalanche to replace my Tahoe instead. I think if the GXP had come out last fall when it was orginally promised I might have gone for it by now, but the fact is that the Tahoe is six years old and needs more maintenance than the Bonnie, which only has 14K miles on it, so I'm keeping the Bonnie and selling the Tahoe. If I ever see a GXP I'll probably look longingly at it like a puppy, but no regrets, I still love the SSEi.

    BTW, the vibration problem is still there but it seems that since the Intermediate Steering Shaft was replaced the shaking is less evident through the steering wheel. I can tolerate it again. Otherwise, very smooth riding. The Avalanche is wonderful, the seats are amazingly comfortable and easily my favorite feature of the whole truck. It's also super smooth and quiet, rides like a Cadillac (a very, very big Cadillac). XM, OnStar, sunroof, Bose, power-fold mirrors, adjustable pedals, auto dual-zone climate, very luxurious. Not looking forward to filling the 31 gallon tank, but with a 20-mile round trip commute I only have to fill the Tahoe twice a month if I don't stray too far from home, so this one shouldn't be any worse.
  • hammen2hammen2 Posts: 1,313
    mlm, when are you having vibration? All of the time, or just at certain speeds? If the latter, and you haven't had your tires road-force balanced, go to and find a shop that has a Hunter GSP 9700 machine. This is a new way of balancing tires which applies a counter-force to the tire when it's spinning, to help find the high and low spots of the tire and rim. They are then matched, and this tends to reduce at-speed vibrations, particularly noticeable on cars like the GM G (Aurora, Seville, Park Avenue, Riviera) and H (Bonneville, LeSabre) which have a fairly stiff body structure.

    (No I don't work for Hunter, I'm just an Aurora owner who's had this done a few times. I peruse this forum because of my interest in the GXP)...

    Hope this helps,

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