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Pontiac Bonneville

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  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    I agree the Bonneville is far sexier looking than the LeSabre, and the SLE model sounds interesting if the seats are that noticeably more comfortable. Have you (or anyone) test driven the Bonne vs LeSabre? I wonder about the ride on the two - my guess is that the Bonne is smooth but more controlled feeling then the Buick. However, I've read that the LeSabre Limited with the perfomance pkg is pretty decent. I have not liked past full sized GM 'floaters' - watch one cross a bridge expansion joint and count/time the front end bounces. Pass the dramamine please!
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    I drive a LeSAbre with the Performance packange and did not care for it at all. Way too much body roll and still an annoyingly firm suspension.

    I bought a 2000 Bonneville SSEi and love it. I touch to much body roll, but I am taking care of that.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    I really need to proof my posts.

    Should say "I drove a LeSabre..."

    and "A touch too much body roll..."

    That the english problems. Grammar?????
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    My wife called. UPS just delivered my Saner rear anti-sway bar and the urethane endlinks for the front. Wonder if I can get them on before this weekend. Intense, How big a job? Any suggestions?
  • Real busy at work and home so haven't posted lately ,2000 SSEi is running strong at 12k with CAI,3.25 pulley and 185 deg. therm . Just started to get a noise in the passenger door , goes away for awhile if you lift up hard on arm rest , also started to notice a slight vibration in drivers side mirror at 75 mph so I will start a list to bring car back to dealer soon .
    We had some cold mournings recently here in upstate N.Y. Last week it was 42 deg. out at 6:00 am and Bon was unbelievably responsive . At a stop a new Audi A6 was a head of me and with no other car's around he really got on it . Sorta got me in the mood so I pulled out and when I saw 24 mph on the heads up I thought I was safe to floor it but she brook the tire loose big time and I had to let up a bit , it must of been heard by the guy in the Audi cause about a half mile away we entered the expressway on ramp he really took off .I was happy to see no other cars any where so I went WOT and Bon had him by the end of the ramp , three big green digits on the windshield . I let off , set the cruise and watched him keep going . I had just filled up with 100 octane the day before so it was a little skewed in my favor . Intercooler is needed here
    Snickle - how is the platinum injection working ?
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    Not sure yet. I had a bad fitting. Just got the replacement. Will let everone know soon. I will try to run some autotaps.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    I haven't been posting; just reading, because I can't make modifications to my leased SSEI. I wish I could because I would love to get the performance you guys are experiencing. I still have fond memories of my '86 Regal Turbo with intercooler. The stock 2000 Bonnie SSEI will have to be good enough for me! I now have 10,000 miles on it and besides the door rattles, same vibration in driver's mirror as dmckeown (except I get it at all speeds, even when idling), and a strange spring like noise from the steering column, I love my Bonnie. I still say the glove box and cup holders are a joke.
    I rented a 2001 Grand Prix while vacationing last month and experienced the same driver's side mirror vibration and steering column noise; must be a 2000/2001 Pontiac thing. My dealer (who is very good) stated that the mirror can't be improved and they aren't going to take apart the steering column unless there is a functional problem. I've learned to live with both.
  • Snickle- did you go with the one inch bar?

    Before you put the new bar on, go out on an empty highway and do a few transient response tests (super quick lane changes). Note how much understeer and body roll you have. Not bad for a four-door.

    Now go home and jack the rear end up plenty high, and set up a couple jack stands.

    The old, small, hollow, wimpy, rubber jointed bar comes out in about five minutes.

    The new large (hope you went with the 1"), solid, polygraphite jointed bar will slide in with some jiggling and wiggling.

    Use pliers to compress the frame mounts together before trying to bolt them on.

    I had to invert the end link bolts to get the nuts started.

    The whole job will only take an hour. In my opinion, this was a GREAT INVESTMENT. Low price, easy installation, serious performance enhancement, and no side effects.

    Go back out and redo the transient response tests. You won't believe the difference. Mine feels like a different car!
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    Yes I got the 1" bar. I thought about trying to put it on after dinner, but I only had an hour of light left. I'll do it tomorrow after work.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    I also got replacement front end-links. I'll drive with just the rear-bar for a while, then put on the front links. I also have front poly frame bushings on order but Saner is having trouble finding them to fit a 30 mil bar. He said should be a week or two. Maybe they will come in before I do the front links.
  • Hi, was the car you rented an SE, GT, or GTP? did you like the dual zone manual temperature controls? (whew! That was a mouthful) How was the interior sound? Quietness that is.
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    Interesting press release about a nearly stock 2000 Bonneville SSEi that reached 195 mph at Bonneville Salt Flats. Unique paint job too. http://media.gm.com/pontiac/index.html

    I've had my 2000 Midnight Blue SSEi since March and love it. No real problems yet other than slight door panel squeaks that don't seem to happen in the Florida summer heat, but will probably be worse when (if it ever) gets cold. Also noticed that the side mirrors don't always return to the programmed position when unlocking with the remote of Driver 1, but will when the door switch is pressed. Still a blast to drive, although I think there is too much torque steer off the line. Can't get enough of that great Bose sound system.
  • Hey rich folks who drive Bonnevilles...My li'l ol' '99 Sable GS has no rear anti-roll bar. The LS comes with one, but thanks to brilliant Ford engineers, it won't fit the GS! Since I'd been unable to locate an aftermarket unit, the thought of "movin' on up" to a used '00 Bonneville pointed me toward this pew of the Edmund's church. Man! My first run-through of posts and BLAM! Saner Performance Fabrication! Thanks, guys. I'll ask if they can do anything for me. If not, I'll be back to peruse the rest of your posts re: '00 Bonnevilles! What the heck...I'll be back even if I do keep mine. I can live vicariously through reading your experiences. Thanks snickle for the post I saw containing Saner's URL. Later, gang.
  • Where did you guys get the sway bars? I would love to do that on my Bonneville. About how much should I expect to pay? Is it a problem that I only have an SE. I know I have a front sway bar but I'm not sure of the rear. I'm only seventeen so I couldn't afford the SSEi but I can still dream.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    www.sanerperfab.com or email sanerperffab@cs.com.

    Sway bars for a SE should not be a problem. Still a G body. Just don't go with a 1" as with you smaller front, you would get oversteer. Unless you swap both.

    You do not have a rear. Your front is 20 mill I think.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    The Grand Prix I rented was a base SE. I did not pay too much attention to the two zone temp controls because I have them in my SSEI. The car was quiet and I enjoyed driving it.
  • snicklesnickle Posts: 147
    Shoot me I am an idiot. Got the old bar off, without too much problem. The biggest problem was spreading the clamps.

    The new one took some work to get in place, would be alot easier with a lift.

    Got the 1st clamp on no problem, left it loose.

    Manage to cross thread the clamp bolt on the other one and mess up the bolt and the socket. Tried to switch the bolts between side an force. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!!!!!!

    No both bolts and both sockets are messed up. And I do no have a tap and die set the right size. I will call the dealer tomorrow to see if the have the bolts and then try to track down a tap.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Thanks for the link to the press release.

    My 2000 SSEI is also Midnight Blue (with dual thin gray pinstripes). I also have the door panel squeaks and the same occasional non return of the driver's mirror. You are right that it will return with a touch of the switch on the door. It is a blast to drive but does have torque steer off the line (lots of power for stock front wheel drive). I agree, The Bose sound system is awesome!
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    I had an after market system in my previous car. Sony head, rockford fosgate amps and speakers, sounded outstanding! I was rather disappointed with the bose sound. The only highs are from the small upper door panel tweeters. The 6x9's in the back are woofers only no tweeters. I feel a little high end reflected off the rear window would be nice. I wanted to put my old stuff back in but nothing was compatible. The bose is a weird 1 ohm system. You can not even add a cd changer. I added the 6x9's sub woofers and amps thus making it a 8 ohm system the only draw back was 500 watts of door and key chimes and a lot of hiss. went back to the old bose... left the subs in, they round it out a bit on the low end, but I miss the highs and the cd changer. Compass laid an egg, passenger door panel rattles most of the time and the power window lights stay on sometimes... go figure. It is black and beautiful.
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