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Pontiac Bonneville

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  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    I've had many cars with posi trac, safety track, limited slip, or whatever the factory chose to call it. It gave decent traction on marginal traction surfaces and left really cool twin stipes on the concrete, but it is stone-age technology compared to the SSEi traction control. It will pull you through where posi would leave you on the shoulder. It is not a performance item, but for what is designed for, it is one of the most impressive items on the car. Now a Posi combined with a traction control would really be nice. Yes, it snowed in St. Louis today... thus the rant!
  • teuobkteuobk Posts: 1
    Greetings everybody,


    I've been looking for a website dedicated to the Pontiac Bonneville, but haven't found one that really "fit" me (no offense to Edmunds). Therefore, I decided to make my own. If you're interested, check out http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/


    Cheers,

    Jeff

  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Interesting site - I'll look more closely at it when I have a few minutes. It's always a pleasure to meet fellow Bonnevillians

    Ken
  • theicemantheiceman Posts: 736
    I was doing some research for a friend that brought me here & I thought I'd "pop by" and wish you all the best for '02. Still driving the '00 SLE and still thinking about an SSEi. Problem is, I like the SLE too much and the 0% deal up here didn't include the '02s.

    At 20k miles now and have yet to do any of the mods I once was considering. Maybe next summer...

    All the best gang! Cheers!

    ice
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Nice to see you - thanks for saying 'Hi'. Hope you and the MTC gang are enjoying yourselves wherever you disappeared to. Sure do miss your inputs here.

    Have a great year.

    Ken
  • I just noticed that someone hit my rear passenger door on my 98 SE, enough to slightly crease the metal. Should I be brave and try and knock this out (without cracking the paint)? If so, how do I get the interior door panel off? Thanks in advance.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    The new method of taking out dings and minor dent without having to remove body panels is really great. Dent Wizard is the name of one such franchised repair establishments in the North East - there are certainly others around the country. I've not had to deal with that yet but have heard some good reports about the effectiveness and low cost of these procedures.

    Good luck

    Ken
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Good to hear from Dan. I wish he would stop by more often!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Looks like more changes in store for us here at TH according to the hosts. I see over on the Impala board that the host has indicated we may have to include the car name of the board - in this case the word "Bonneville" in each post. There is apparantly a notice coming out on this later today. More advertising as seen on the top of this page and to the left here, and changes in the chats are already announced. Stay tuned I guess.

    Ken
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    That was a tongue-in-cheek response to an earlier poster who had suggested somehow that was now going to be a requirement - I think his message was tongue-in-cheek as well.

    You have already noted the "change" which is the addition of the banners at the top of the page and the additional links on the left sidebar. There is a link on the front page to a letter from our Community Manager, Jonah Brown, explaining what's up. I believe it was posted Wednesday evening. http://townhall.edmunds.com/

    I made that post earlier Wednesday before the announcement was posted.

    Sorry for any misunderstanding, I was just kidding around.

    :-)

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • jeffbogjeffbog Posts: 63
    I remember a while back that there was some discussion of the Bonneville being discontinued. For what it is worth, I just read in the Chicago Tribune, dated 01/17/02, that "new Pontiac designs are coming out in the next 18 to 24 months. New Grand Prix in '03, Grand Am in '04 and Bonneville replacement in '05." Now they didn't say new Bonneville, but rather Bonneville replacement. I guess we'll wait and see.
  • Hi.. My '98 Bonneville has developed a "creak" coming from the rear suspension (I suspect). Only does it when I am exiting the car and it sounds like something is rubbing -- almost sounds like metal to metal. Its not the rear struts -- does not do it when I go over a bump, but its driving me nuts. Any ideas?? Thanks
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    I've been pretty quiet here of late. Been in Maine for a week playing electrician, working on the old Camaro and finally, tons of computer issues. Downloaded new OS and Netscape 6 whereupon the computer would freeze every 15 seconds or so. Back to normal after trashing Netscape 6.
    Anyway, we've all read ads touting the latest miracle device or additive that will increase your fuel economy beyond your wildest dreams and that if Detroit wasn't involved in such a conspiracy to get us all to use the maximum amount of fuel, we would all be using these items on our cars right out of the factory.
    Well, my car seems to be working in reverse in that it uses fuel overnight. Whenever I fill up the tank and only have a relatively few miles on it, the average fuel economy per the DIC goes down 2-3 tenths of a MPG from the time I pull into the driveway and when I start it back up the next day. Must be some type of averaging computation the computer uses but it sure is baffling.
    The same Tribune article also said that the new Pontiac redesigns will be cleaner and without the ribbed body panels.
    Last Sunday, the Tribune had an article that was quoting GM's president as saying that they have made great strides in the hard type quality issues as in the ones that can be measured. He said, however, that GM needs to make much bigger strides in improving perceived quality, especially in the interior area. Since I rarely, if ever, am in a luxury imported car, I don't have much of a frame of reference except for the Bonneville and I find it just fine. However, it would seem that there is a perception out there, at least with some buyers, that the GM interiors are a bit cheesy and needs to improve before they'll even consider a purchase.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Any snow up your way at the camp? We've got a few inches - major disappointment to the kids so far this winter!

    What exactly was the problem you had with starting on your Bonneville? I noticed the other day that I turned the key and there was nothing at all the first attempt. Fine on the second.

    Ken
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    A week ago yesterday, we got about 6". The Ford Focus I had as a rental was pretty decent in the snow but certainly could have used traction control.
    Both times my car has failed to start, the problem has been the ignition switch. I know that was the problem the first time since it was diagnosed and fixed by the local(Illinois) dealer. That's what the dealer in Maine also told me but then, I don't have much faith in anything they said, considering it would start in neutral but not park. No problems since.
  • timfarntimfarn Posts: 289
    Chevydude: My guess would be that the rear control arm ball joints are dry. Grease the ball joints and the links - two zerks on each side.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    I see that Pontiac sold 48,000 units of Bonneville last year compared to 65K the prior year. Doesn't look encouraging to see numbers drop like that.

    LeSabre sold 145K units. I guess people prefer the softer ride in this class.

    Ken
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    The other day I received a mailer describing a new owner's web site for my Chevy Tahoe, so I checked it out. GM has created a site where you can get info about your car including "service history," recall information, download owner's manuals, and more. It's actually pretty nice, although it seems to be in it's infant stages; I expect that it will improve with time. I was disappointed that the service history is not what I thought it was -- it is only a place for you to enter stuff like when you got your oil changed and it will remind you when to get another oil change. They claim that beginning in the spring warranty service will automatically appear there; I was hoping all my dealer's service records would be there too.

    So far only select Chevrolet and Pontiac vehicles are available (including 1993-present Bonneville), but I guess soon all the carlines will be participating. Anyway, I was able to enter my Tahoe and Bonneville, so we'll see how it works.

    http://www.mygmlink.com
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Michael - the GM site looks interesting. I guess one of the benefits would be for anyone that is travelling and gets into trouble - all the repair history would be available to the servicing dealer right away.

    BTW - I finally got to check out Jeff's site mentioned above in #2342. Looks like he's attracted a good assortment of teens and other young guys driving prior generation Bonnevilles. Nice to see that someone younger than most of us here can appreciate these vehicles. Makes me feel pretty darn old at 46 though!

    My wife and I took the Bonneville into Boston last night to go to a concert at Symphony Hall. I was driving in my usual assertive city manner and enjoying the handling of the S curves getting into and out of town and the smooth new tires. What a great car!
  • Hi, I read this board everyday, however, I haven't posted in a long, long time.
    My occupation has taken me from home (Chicago) to Hadley, MA. I've been here since Aug 1st, I've seen some 2k+ Bonnevilles and waved, but no response.
    Ken, I guess I haven't seen your ride yet.
    The GM site: As far as it being a benefit to a to someone who moves around quite abit, maybe I missed something. The site thinks my primary service center is Tom Wood Pontiac in Indianaopolis, IN, where I bought the car.
    My work took me to Chicago within an oil change of purchase, and I've been to two dealer service centers in the two years that I spent there.
    Now, I have had four oil changes (tire rotate)since in MA. BTW the car has been completely trouble free at 53k.
    One would think that GM would have a database of the of service performed on the VIN. But, maybe I missed something. Do you really have to enter your own maintenance info? That's no fun.
    I have an Excel spreadsheet of every inch that my car has rolled since purchase, in my PocketPC. If any form of info has to be derived, it can be, with the mileage, gallons, services, cost, etc. that I keep a records of. But, I'm a surveyor. and sort of a nerd as far as records are concerned.
    If I had a few minutes of free time, I'd do the pulley trick. However. the quickness of the car still hasn't become boring. I haven't gone out of my way to do any mods except for a K&N filter and Mobile 1.
    What a great ride.
    2000 SSEi
    Rick
  • mlm4mlm4 Posts: 401
    Interesting that when I registered my Bonnie the MyGMLink web site also automatically selected the dealership I purchased the car from as my "preferred" dealership. When I registered the Tahoe no dealer was selected (maybe their records don't go back to 1998 for that sort of thing, I dunno). So if they know where I got my car, how come they don't know what has been done to it? (They probably do, but haven't yet figured out how to link it to this database.)
    Still love the car, but I am increasingly disappointed about the vibration problem, which improved when they rebalanced the wheels (no more shake in the steering wheel) but still feels like I'm driving on a washboard at certain speeds on smooth roads. I really believe that it is not an easy thing to fix and I don't have patience for dealing with it, especially on a "new" car that cost well over $30 grand. I continue to live with it primarily because the Bonnie is not my daily ride, and when I do take it out I have much fun with it.
    All you New England guys are making me homesick. I know I'm an oddball here in Florida, but I think there is something seriously wrong when it is 85 degrees and the mosquitoes are out in late January. Where's my cold weather?
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Didn't someone on this board (Ezrapon?) mention that Curt Warner drove an SSEi? Even if that is the case..... GO PATRIOTS!!!!
  • GM has no service records for our Bonnevilles, other then warranty repairs. Warranty repairs will be rolled into the system later, I beleive I read somewhere. I second the GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Rick - welcome to New England. Contrary to your present situation here, January is not typically 60-70 degrees with a first place football team! BTW - I know someone who grew up in Hadley - nice litle town I hear.

    Micheal - sorry bud - no snow, no cold, no solid ice on the ponds and lakes. The dirt roads are muddy and if it doesn't change soon the crocuses and tulips will be up! It feels and looks like late March around here. Really weird!!!

    PATS in the Super Bowl?? But where's the wonder man - former coach Bill P??? How did this happen?

    Seriously - it was great to see Bledsoe have an awesome game coming back as he did to take over from Brady after not playing since Sep. He's a great quarterback and apparantly a real gentleman too.

    Best wishes to all

    Ken
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    A 60-70 degree day in New England in January or the Patriots in the Super Bowl? For what it's worth, ever since the St. Louis Cardinals pulled up stakes and moved west to Arizona, I just can't warm up to the St. Louis Rams so I'm pulling for the Patriots.
    I see where Mercury is bringing back the Marauder ala the Impala SS. Supposed to have a very impressive 300+ hp. Hmmm. Could I be tempted? Maybe at the reported list price of around $30,000.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Having owned 2 GMs I'd like to see how this one turns out. I'm not tempted to go buy one but I'd sure like to drive it.

    BTW I stopped at my local Pontiac GMC Cadillac dealer today and saw the new CTS - and was unimpressed. The Envoy, OTOH, is VERY impressive and I'd love to drive one to compare to the Trail Blazer I tried recently.

    There were NO new Bonnies in sight! You'd think it was an orphan! OH well - I got the 2002 catalogue anyway.

    Take care all

    Ken
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Have you seen the recent posts over on the Bonneville Problems board regarding 95-98 3800 engines?? Absolutely scary! Hope this is not a problem for 2000 on.

    Ken
  • fantascpfantascp Posts: 175
    I'm still here- i'm not really worried about it yet- obviously it could be something to be VERY concerned over- but with only 8 or 9 posts out of all the car owners of 1995 to 1998 bonnevilles- (imho) i'm not jumping the gun on anything yet.-
    i can only relate right now to my own vehicles and so far no intake problems as a matter of fact, no problems with either car- both are running GREAT!!!! Thanks for the heads up and your concern- I'm really sorry for those that have had problems with this and can only hope that these are isolated cases.

    Regards,

    Chuck
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    As i stated before, Curt Warner is a neighbor. He drives a 2000 bronzemist SSEi. Winners drive Bonnevilles. The Rams will humiliate the pats again as they did in week 10... shame on you mfahey... using the cardinals and the rams in the same thought tch tch tch.
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