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Pontiac Bonneville

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  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    Hope you Bonneville owners making your way to the "Big Easy" for the Superbowl will have a great trip.

    They've been talking about all the added security but I doubt it will compare to the Olympics. I heard the the security in Utah is costing $300 million. Of course, that's 2 weeks vs. 1 day.

    Anyway, if any of you are going to New Orleans, hope your experience is a good one!!

    Stacy
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    Roger - My memory is obviously better than yours. I remembered you mentioning that Kurt Warner drives a Bonnie, you forget that the Patriots basically gave the week 10 game to the Rams. Not even diehard St. Louis fans can say that the Rams humiliated the Pats in that game. It was even closer than the 24-17 score indicates. Enjoy the game!
    Stephen
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Nice to see you again! How's that Grand Prix doing these days? A woman in my office just bought a 2002 GT and loves it.

    No plans for travelling farther than my sofa to watch the game on Sunday for me!

    Thanks for stopping by. Take care.

    Ken
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    The car is doing great but it really needs to be washed. It's embarrassing, it's so dirty! If it's warm enough today, I may wash it.

    I was reading over the posts and saw where your car got scratched. That's a shame. I'm still waiting for my first car scratch. (Just because I said this, I've jinxed myself!!) It seems like yours was probably an accident, but the person with the "8" scratch was definitely vandalism. I don't know why people do that.

    Anyway, good luck with the Patriots!

    Stacy
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    Yes Stacy, cars get absolutely filthy this time of year - especially in these northern climates where we cope with road salt in addition to the mud and general grime. You have to be so careful not to touch your jacket or pants against the car and get a white smear on your clothing - it's just plain GROSS!
  • stnelstnel Posts: 338
    I've never heard of road salt before. I imagine it's much harder keeping a car clean up north because you never have a warm day to wash it until spring. I don't really know anything about snow but I imagine constantly getting into the car with wet clothing will ruin a cloth interior as well. What can I say--you northerners pay your dues in the winter and we southerners pay ours in the summer! I think I'd rather do a little damage to the paint job/interior than burn an engine out in a car--which I've done before when I was young.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    My grandma's got a '92 Bonneville with the Series I 3.8. I know, I know, I'm evil to want to hop up grandma's car...
    But my question is this- Can the Series II heads be bolted onto a Series I block with no trouble, or will the computer need to be updated to work with the newer heads? Will intakes, throttle bodies, ect carry over from the S I to the S II, or do I need an entire SII top end?
    And now for the $64,000 question....
    How much will all this cost?
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    Now that the Chicago area is getting hit with snow for the first time this year, I took out the SSEi for the first time ever in snow. The car is almost two years old but I basically parked it last winter and drove the beater van. With the tires that are standard on the SSEi, it was your basic grossly understeering front driver(read, I almost kissed a bridge on a curve). Time to be a little more careful.
    To set the record straight, I basically grew up in St. Louis rooting for the St. Louis CARDINALS. The Rams were just some interlopers that came along when there was more money to be had than in Los Angeles.. Of course, if I still lived there, I'm sure I'd be on the Rams bandwagon too.
  • You'll run into trouble trying to interchange parts. Your best bet is to find a L36 (3800SII) or L67 (3800SII supercharged). You'll also need a 4T65-E to handle the power, the older 4T60-E won't take it for long. Come over to http://www.bonnevilleclub.com, we've got some interesting discussion on this going on.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Thanks for the link & advice. I'll check it out.
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    It seems the superbowl has added some fresh life into this forum! Too bad there is not the 2 week period to prepare, we would have more time to carry on. I fear that the Rams will lose only if Kurt is hurt or throws too many interceptions. Otherwise the Boston folks are doomed to relive their Cublike sport's failure once again (never should have traded the Babe or started Buckner). As for the first game, the rams put over 400 yards on the pats and took a knee when they easily could have scored another touch down late in the game. The pats only scored one offensive TD. Since that fateful day (notice, Stephen, I didn't use the word humiliation) both teams have improved. The most improvement, however, has been on the rams defense. They are number one in the NFC. So on paper the pats don't stand a chance. But I suppose they will go ahead and play the game anyway just to make sure. Either way, I like the pats. They came very close to being the St. Louis Patriots a while back. Steve Grogan played in one of the best Monday night games I have ever seen. I'd rather lose to the Pats than the Ravens Titans Steelers or Raiders. Good luck Bean Town! As for my SSEi, the 180 thermostat I installed last summer is paying dividends with this cold weather... It runs cooler and keeps that early morning umph all day.
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    I found a new way to avoid any possibility of getting speeding tickets. I got a little carried away playing tennis this week and am now the proud wearer of a foot immobilizing boot on my right foot which doesn't let you bend your ankle to press on the gas. I can barely drive the car around town because it's a strain to get it up to 35mph.
    It's much better than a couple years ago trying to drive my 5 speed Taurus with a cast up to my left knee(softball). You definitely can't shift too smoothly with your right operating the clutch.
    On the philosophy of everyone loves to root for the underdog, go Patriots.

    Mark
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    You restated your position very nicely. The only error in your post was that the Babe was sold; not traded! The Patriots appear to be a team of destiny. They are mostly a collection of players that no other team wanted. Us New Englanders deserve a break after (I'm sorry to admit) many humiliating and disapointing situations. If we can force Warner in to throwing a couple of interceptions or stop Faulk somehow, we could actually have a chance. Stranger things have happened!
    As far as my SSEi is concerned, my driver's side seat warmer won't stay on. I only use it to warm it up for a minute or two on very cold mornings, but it clicks right off in a second or two.
    Enjoy the game everyone.
    Stephen
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    my seat warmer went out the exact same way. Light would come on for a second then click off. Had to replace the entire seat cushion (twice). The leather did not match the first time, then it had defects in the leather, looked like the cow rubbed up against barbed wire before they made a seat out of him. Finally both seats were replaced, still not grade A leather, but I grew weary of fighting AS WILL THE PATS when they fold up like a cheap suit under the Rams onslaught. I still pine for the Mchale/Larry Bird glory days. Until the Pats pick a city instead of a region, they can't be taken seriously...The Mid-West Rams??? I wonder if I can still buy an extended warranty for this car.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    On the philosophy that everyone loves to root for the underdog, GO RAMS!
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    I don't think so! This team has too much fight in it to give up at any time. They proved that all season long. It should be a great game.

    Remember that New England is about the same size geographically as Missouri. I'm not sure about population though. Also, don't forget that Missouri has two teams just in case one bandwagon is full!

    I did go for the 100,000 mile warranty and wouldn't mind taking my chances with a new leather seat. I remember how firm it was before I had been sitting in it now for 50,000 miles. With each Bonneville I've had (5), my wife has reminded me just how cheap the leather is in these cars. I think they could provide better quality.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    The Bonneville now uses Connolly leather, the same one found in Jaguar and Rolls Royce. This is as good as it gets...
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    They only replace the covers, I guess that is where the elements are. Mine replacements had 2 or 3 obvious defects (pits and deep cracks). The service people said that is just the way leather is now days even in new cars. I said, " show me one new car in your lot with seats like this and I will not say another word." They are a Cadilac dealer and only higher end Pontiacs. They didnt need to look at any other seats because they were caught. They ordered 2 new ones on the spot. The passenger is still not perfect. They must use factory seconds for replacements... speaking of seconds, look for my I TOLD YOU SO TONIGHT!!!! GO RAMS!!!!
  • Aren't you doubters alittle ashamed?
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    Its easy to say what a great game when you win. When thr Rams beat the Titans 2 years ago in a fantastic finish, I said what a great game. This time we lost, but I can still say, what a great nail biting game. No trash talking, no fights, just hard hitting football by two class teams. The rams are still probably the better team, but the Pats are a team of destiny (remember the horrible call in the Oakland game). I guess we have to count the first half dont we?
  • They do not replace the seat covers any more. GM now has a replacement element kit that goes under the leather trim to repair problems. Way to go PATS, was not as musch fun as standing in the snow for 5 hours to watch the PATS beat theRaiders but we love it any way.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    That was just the best S.B. ever - a real cliff hanger at the end. Now I don't pretend to be a real football fan - oh I'll watch playoffs and SB - but that game was just pure sports entertainment. Too many of these big hype games turn out to be lopsided mismatches. Not so this time. Nice to see the hometown team pull it off -we haven't been treated to that recently in these parts!

    Now if only the Red Sox.........

    Best wishes to all

    Ken
  • Ken,

    Nice to see the super bowl live up to its name and for the NE Pats to take home the trophy!

    How about a Phillies vs Red Sox World Series...one has to win?!

    Two months till spring so everyone up north hold out just a little bit more.

    Bonnie is running fine and closing in on 4000 miles. Gave the car a bath on Sunday. Will be available for inclusion for any Patriots Parade!!
    All that is needed for a Pontiac display is a white and blue Bonnie!!!

    Take care everyone ....

    Steve
  • If you thought the game was good on TV, the local sports radio station is playing the National & Local radio feeds of the highlights, and it is much more exciting then the TV broadcast. To stay near topic: too bad no Bonneville commercials during the Pontiac Postgame Show.
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    First of all, the Patriots are not a team of destiny. The call in the Oakland game was the right call according to the rule. Nobody disputes that. It's the rule that should be changed. Second, the Patriots proved that they are the better team. Your Rams may have more individual talent, but that doesn't always win games. The Patriots played harder and wanted to win more.
    I hope Kurt enjoyed driving home in his Bonneville in that "cheap suit"!
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    My kids absolutely fell on the floor laughing at the Focus 'Fart' commercial.

    The Budweiser bird theives were great - and the kneeling clydesdales in respect for WTC was touching.

    Ken
  • ezraponezrapon Posts: 348
    If you go to www.stltoday.com and click on the story, "Rams return to small group of loyal fans," you might recognize the roofline of a 2000 bronzemist Bonneville. Why would a multi-millionaire choose a SSEi? He later in the day tried to comit suicide, but the bullet was intercepted.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    I don't see the story. Perhaps it was on the prior day's site. What's the suicide reference about???

    Ken
  • smfransmfran Posts: 432
    He through 2 interceptions which led to the Pats victory.
  • mfahey1mfahey1 Posts: 419
    Inadvertently posted this same message over on the M&R board.
    Maybe Pontiac should spend more effort pushing the Bonneville rather than the Grand Prix in the Super Bowl. In February's Consumer Reports, the Grand Prix GT came in last against the Camry, Altima and Intrepid(?).
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