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Jaguar S-Type

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  • wcollinswcollins Posts: 45
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  • wcollinswcollins Posts: 45
    That's about the asking price for the mesh grill, however, you can easily install it yourself, saving yourself additional money. To put it in perspective, Jaguar charge $20 for a plastic center cap that only last on average 4 months before it cracks and loses it's legs. On the other hand I owned a 95 Acura NSX who's plastic center cap cost $75. So go figure. Plastic is expensive. It's not based on the product but the car.
  • brucec35brucec35 Posts: 246
    My wife and I were strongly considering buying a used '03 Jag S type to replace her Saab in the next year sometime, since with their rapid depreciation they are a relative used car bargain (upper 20's for a $44,000 car after 1.5 years!)

    But after hearing that they still haven't got their act together in terms of quality, we're gonna pass and stick to reliable brands. My least favorite activity in the world is getting cars to and from the dealer's repair shop and paying for repairs.

    I wonder when they'll wake up and realize that their lousy reliablity costs them money. A great handling and performing car that looks fantastic and it still can't get large volume sales...hmmm, wonder why?
  • merrelmerrel Posts: 45
    Someone, please explain to this dummy why the best trade in value I am offered for a 2003 Jaguar S is $27k from a dealer when I know he is going to sell this between $36-$39k. I paid for every conceivable option which isn't worth $500 more when they come up with the T.I. value. Do they have to make $9-$12$ profit on this used car?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Another good place to ask that question is in our Real-World Trade-In Values discussion. There's a guy hanging out there who is a dealer and an expert on such things.

    You need to tell him your mileage, exact options, general condition, color and your location. Check other posts to be sure you provide all the information necessary.

    Let us know what you find out.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Sorry folks, as explained in the Membership Agreement (link on left) and our Rules of the Road (link at top), the Town Hall may not be used to buy or sell things.

    I had to remove a couple of messages for that reason.
  • merrelmerrel Posts: 45
    My message # 721- Not trying to sell anything. I traded in the Jag on June 19th and took big time lumps. Kind regards-
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    No merrel, I didn't think you were trying to sell anything at all. I was referring to two messages that I had to remove.

    Sorry for your lumps. I see you've picked up a C240 - good luck with it. Take care - see you around the Town Hall. :)
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    He might list it for $39K, but that doesn't mean someone will pay that much even fully loaded.

    I found this one http://www.cars.com/search/used/cc/standard/results/single/ld/det- - ail.jhtml?paId=149199788&aff=sacbee&src=&cid

    listed for less with only 14K miles, but it isn't fully loaded. However that price is only a list price that's subject to further negotiating and discounting.
    If I were going to get a used non-loaded S-Type, I'd see if I could find something nice for under $30K. If I were in the market today and they discounted that car down to $30K, I'd think about buying it. Trading to a dealer at one year old is a money-losing situation.
    I am not selling that car and I am not going to buy that car. It is only an example I found from an internet search to see what late model S-types were being listed for locally.
  • mikeselldmikeselld Posts: 16
    I've had my 04 S type 3.0 for 5 months. Before leasing, I read everything on every board but I first started here. While I now frequent another board (I don't think I'm allowed to state the name) I still check here occasionally. Kind of my first home. Very little has been appearing here so I though I would post my impressions of this car and a few comments.

    I LOVE this car. I have had allot of new cars over the years. This car has been absolutely perfect and has filled all expectations. If you look at JD Powers initial quality, you will see Jag is the top rated European luxury car. This model has been around in variations since 1999. With ongoing improvements, I think you will see a car with "the bugs worked out". Some have comment about lack of quality. Wrong. I might avoid pre 2003 due to reported transmission problem. A lot of cars have some weak point statically but the majority of people don't experience it. Also remember that if you pay 45000 for a car, your tolerance for imperfection is minimal.

    With proper snow tires, the Michigan winter was no problem.

    Compare this to a 530i; you will love the luxury, performance and beauty. I personally also love the lack of iDrive. Check the 6/2004 Road and Track for good comparisons.

    Anyone who buys a car in this price range and then acts surprised that the trade in value after one year is lousy isn’t researching their purchase very well. I remember an old economics professor of mine (in my previous live) saying that the value of an object is what you can sell it on the open market for, not what you may arbitrarily place the value. I used “dream car” like an S losses allot of its dream value just by being used. Just a fact of our live. I personally didn't even look at a one year old fully equiped 2003 4.2 for 35000 initial asking price for the same reason.

    The current Jaguar is not the old Jaguar from 15 years ago. Thank you Ford. Try it, you’ll like it.
  • kellynkellyn Posts: 1
    I started reading your complaints about the Jag S-Type and for a moment I thought my wife had beat me to the message board. Now I know what the "S" stands for! It has been in for repairs 24 TIMES since she bought it new from Momentum in Houston. 3 time the past 60 days. It's there right now! And they want another $400 to get it out. The last time we went to pick it up AFTER BEING THERE A MONTH, and after forking over another 430.00 it WOULD NOT EVEN START! A week later we picked it up and It ran for 4 days before the dashboard lit up again and the temp meter pegged out. Jaguar USA Customer service supervisor was good enough to offer to call the service department and AUTHORIZE THEM TO REPAIR IS RIGHT AT OUR EXPENSE! Buyer Beware!!!
  • qsmithqsmith Posts: 1
    I'm deciding on buying a new car , my options are AUDI A6, WITH THE 4.2 V8 FOR AROUND 44,000 or 2004 S TYPE , for around $40,000.00......or I just may wait for the 2005 A6 and go with the v6....what would you do ??
  • mikeselldmikeselld Posts: 16
    No question, the Jag. I felt the Audi was very nice but had no eloquence.
  • Through six model year's the Jaguar S-Type is still the most elegant midsize luxury sport sedan out there, bar none! OH! The New Audi A6 is a looker and the Mercedes E-Class is by no mean's a slouch. We now have our 2000 S-Type 4-year's and 4-month's. One major problem and many minor issue's, but our Jaguar dealer has always been excellent about fixing everyone of them. We still love this car just as much as the day we took delivery. Just had the tire's rotated and Hi-speed re-balanced, cost a nip up $75.00, but coming home from our dealer on the freeway at 70-75 mph, it was like a hot knife going through butter! It cost's a lot to maintain a car like this, but when we are out on a long road trip, it is well worth it. We got our S-Type from Jaguar of Troy, owned and operated by one Irma Elder and her Son's in Troy, Michigan. They truly run a class act in selling and servicing Jaguar and Saab car's. We have always been treated well on each and every visit. Actually the Service Dept is much better than the Showroom Sales Staff! In 30-year's of purchasing new vehicle's, I have never come across both good sale's and good service from the same dealership. It has always been one or the other, or both were terrible. Well, Just wanted to drop in and say hello! to all you lucky S-Type owner's out there.
  • Are you for real? Are you talking brand new or used or a demo? A 2004 S-Type 4.2 V8 for only $40,000. That's not a deal, that's a downright steal! If you're talking brand new, you must be talking Ford Motor Co employee purchase plan. WOW! What I would give to come across a deal like that! We paid $41,600 for our 3.0 V6 back in 2000 brand new.
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    I just priced a 2004 S-Type V8 with no options on Carsdirect.com for zip 90210 and it came out to $41,900, which is still very low, but not as low as $40,000.
  • jules1jules1 Posts: 1
    I was horrified but not surprised to read your message. I have a 200 S type V6 that was 4 years old in March. My car has 24,500 miles on the clock. Of course just after the warranty is up all hell has let loose. Everything that goes wrong costs a fortune to fix. First a passenger electric window, then the steering column and then the passenger seat is stuck in the forward position. I have had the run around with Head Office too and they finally offered to pay for labor on the last two items (the car has been in two Jag shops for 2 weeks) at a cost to me of $3000. I don't see any reason to keep this car once it is fixed to wait for the next shoe to drop. I just hope I can sell it privately and not be ripped off any further by Jaguar. Are you keeping yours?
  • wcollinswcollins Posts: 45
    After 4.5 years of ownership of my 4.0 S-Type,and over 150 days in service, and lots of money out of pocket for repairs, I do not suggest anyone to keep a Jag past warranty unless you have deep pockets and love the vehicle. Also, resale sucks! Jag customer service sucks! What more can I say but purchase a Lexus....trade in awaiting 05 SC430.
  • ray hray h Posts: 120
    Sorry to hear about the S-Type's service history. I was looking to go upscale from my 2003 Hyundai Sonata now that I've come into a bit of discretionary income*, but may have to wait or keep looking. (If it's any consolation to those of you who've had horrific post-warranty expenses in your S-Types, E-Class Mercedes don't seem to fair any better.)

    Thank goodness for Indian casinos in California...
  • bob550kbob550k Posts: 148
    Seems like a fun car, the two year lease turn backs are coming up so I can buy one and extend the factory warranty out to 7 years. Any comments?

    What is the tow capacity of the S type R? I want to tow a Sea Doo (or two)...

    I've had a Lincoln LS for the past 7 months, I like and the V8 has good power, just not enough for me.

    I know a number of people that have the S type 4.0, they love the cars and have few if any complaints. I don't know anyone with the R package.
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