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Jaguar S-Type

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  • 2003 S-type.....groans when I come to a complete stop..doesn't groan when I apply the brakes untill I stop. Any Ideas of what this is or how to fix it. I would like to know before I take it in.
  • mylemon2mylemon2 Posts: 21
    I can't sell or trade a car that I don't own. Jaguar Credit owns it. I only lease it. That's why I can't understand why They are so stubborn about just exchanging it for another car, and then they can sell it or lease it to someone else if they believe it is so safe!
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    You can indeed sell or trade a car you have a lease on.
  • mylemon2mylemon2 Posts: 21
    Yes, you can sell the LEASE, however, I am not familiar with the process. How does it work? Do they buyout your lease at the same price that you owe on the lease? Or, would they want it at a substantial discount? Then, the loss would be to me, not Jaguar! I would have to pay Jaguar the difference. Also, I would have lost all the money I was paying monthly on the lease while I was not driving the car during my claim with Jaguar Cars. I felt like Jag Cars was trying to drag out this claim so I would continue to pay the lease, while not putting any mileage or wear or tear on car.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Unfamiliar with the process? So you haven't even asked the dealer about getting out of the lease?

    Do you _want_ to be angry and upset?

    If your car is so low in mileage, you can sell it and use the proceeds to pay off the lease. You may well have money left over.

    A friend of mine had a leased BMW with low miles, and he did this exactly. He ended up with money in his pocket.
  • mylemon2mylemon2 Posts: 21
    Of course I asked the Dealer about getting out of the lease!!! The dealer will NOT do it Jag Credit will NOT do it, and Jag Cars says they "can't" do it. Jag Credit OWNS the car, and has the Title to it, not me. Maybe your friend got his lease through a bank who loaned him the money, using the car for collatoral, but not taking title to it. Did your friend own the Title on the car? How could I sell this car if I don't hold the title to it?
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    You just said you're not familiar with the process.

    You don't seem to have interest in solving your problem.
  • mylemon2mylemon2 Posts: 21
    If you are familiar with the process, then why don't you educate me and spell it out for me. Of course I am interested in solving the problem!! Obviously, I just don't know HOW to solve it! You seem more interested in badgering me then in trying to help me! Thus, I am beginning to suspect that you work for Jaguar!
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    There are lease forums here on this site. You can go and explain your problem of wanting to get out of your low-mileage s-type lease. There are several ways to do it.

    Car dealers will take a leased car as a trade in. Say they appraise the car at 40K and the lease buyout is $35K. They use the 5K difference as the payment on your new car.

    You can also find a private buyer. If it's like the above case, you and the buyer agree to $40K as the price. You go with the buyer to the dealer, the buyer cuts you a 40K check and you cut the dealer a 35K check. The dealer signs the car to you, you sign the car to the buyer. The dealer can also sign it right over to the buyer in some cases.

    There are other ways as well, such as swaplease.com Again, i suggest you ask on the leasing forums here.

    I think many on these forums would find the idea of my being a jag employee highly amusing.

    Good luck!
  • mylemon2mylemon2 Posts: 21
    Thanks. I will check it out.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    You should scroll back, i edited my post after you responded. Sorry about that.
  • mylemon2mylemon2 Posts: 21
    I tried doing this lease-swap with my Jag Dealer. He refused to do it the way you described. He quoted me on a new Jag and then added on the balance I would owe on my old Lease to the quote he had given me! My new monthly payment would then be double the amount that someone walking in off the street would pay for that same new Jag! That's when I decided enough was enough! Time to sue!
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    That doesn't make any sense. He would stand to make a profit in the scenario i proposed.

    Did you ask what your current buyout is?

    Did you talk to another salesman? The manager? Another delaer?
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,206
    The scenario you proposed assumed that the vehicle was worth more (by far) than it actually was when you wanted to get rid of it.

    The reality is that as soon as the vehicle is driven off the lot (with a signed contract), the value drops by, oh say, 30%. Drive it around the block and try to sell it back to the same dealer you bought it (if you were buying) from & see what happens.

    Two words -- GAP INSURANCE.

    If none of this makes sense, that could be why you're leasing, or want to.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Not really. There's downpayments, and he indicated that's he's had the car for awhile but put almost no miles on it. He ought to be right-side up.
  • Any luck yet on this? I am taking my 2003 s type in tomorrow for the dealer to look at it. I just bought mine 5 days ago....
  • tb4metb4me Posts: 41
    Hey Ray,

    Don't know your age but in the late 70's early 80's there were conversion kits for a chevy small block into the jags. Many were done here in NJ. Was a trip to hear 350 horses of fresh SB in a Jag--ran like the dickens too!!!!!!!! and almost maintenance free.
  • tb4metb4me Posts: 41
    I'm new to this forum. I own a 2002 Trailblazer with over 160,000 on it and the TB forum here has been most helpfull. Truck runs well still..... knock on wood!

    I'm possibly looking to by a used S-Type in the 2002-2005 year range. Is there any thing that should worry me about doing so--as in inhert problems that continue to repeat? I understand that you can luck out and have no problems or get a lemon right from the start--been there already. But , I never owned a Jag before. Bunch of Toyos and Chevys and a couple of nissans.

    Any kind word would be extremely helpfull. Thanks.
  • wshflwshfl Posts: 24
    Back in July, I posted a message asking whether or not anyone had put 150,000 miles or so, on a Jaguar S type. Given the many responses as to the problems most people seem to be having, and no one having put 150,000 trouble-free miles on the "S",I must conclude that it is nothing but a "piece of junk" -- over-priced, and under-engineered. It is a "money-pit" that I'll avoid.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Well, many people buy or lease them and rid themselves of them before the warranty expires. So, what the car will be like at 150,000 miles is not something they need to think about.
    It is not car for driving 150,000 miles. If you can afford to buy one, you should be able to afford to dump it a 50,000 miles or earlier and get another new car at that time.
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