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2011-12 Optima



  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,039
    You're welcome. Keep us up to speed so to speak. Interested in how your butt adjusts to those "hard" seats and what kind of fuel economy you get with the turbo and other tidbits of likes and dislikes.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    Hey Dash what part of the country do you live? Kind of reminds me of Pittsburgh with the everything built on the side of a hill so it's terraced. Just wondering. My family moved there in 1973 and most of them still live there. My wife is from there as well. Nice car by the way.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,769
    Beautiful car! Except for the wheels. :P Why do they remind me of the Hot Wheels cars I played with many, many years ago??

    I love the color. I always liked a "cranberry" red.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    m6user: I did a write up of sorts on my initial impressions here: -Friday

    more in depth write up on page 2 here: -Friday&p=70750616&viewfull=1#post70750616

    mtnman1: I live in NJ, but I did get the car in PA ironically. Pictures are in NJ though =)

    backy: lol I hear you on the wheels, I was a hater early on and I know I was kvetching about them here more than once. I agree it looks like Hot Wheels or someone said like a concept car in the 90's. I've embraced that though! They're fun! Funky, and distinctive. So yeah total 180 for me.

    I love the color as well, thanks! The blue, while not for me personally, is very striking as well.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,713
    your car is gorgeous and as a driver of a Rally Red Mitsubishi I must say I am a sucker for a shiny red car. Do you find the 2011 Kia Optima's seats hard to sit on for an extendo-period of time? Or even for just an...hour?

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    Thanks this is my first shiny red car and I'm really loving it. Nope seats are fine, I was concerned about them too because of some reviewers mentioning they were stiff. Drove the car an hour and a half back from the dealer and I was still perfectly comfortable. They are on the firm side, not super plush or anything, but I would not have thought twice about them had I not read those reviews.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    In following this vehicle from the start and reading all the reviews, etc you will find that this so-called seat problem started by the initial reviews on vehicles that were basically pre-production as the vehicle was not available at dealers or to the general public at that time.

    It seems to me that Kia took note of these initial comments and took corrective action, which bares this out in actual owners comments when the vehicles started arriving at dealerships.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,713
    from all world-class carmakers, that of rectifying potential problem areas before they might become real problems in production. That's what mockups are for, anyway.

    It seems to me that Kia took note of these initial comments and took corrective action, which bares this out in actual owners comments when the vehicles started arriving at dealerships.

    Good to hear they fixed what may have needed fixing.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    edited April 2011
    Saw my first Optima outside of a dealership here in Columbus on the road. We pulled up next to it at a traffic light. Was an EX in the red like yours. It was beautiful. I really liked the wheels that were on this trim. Wish I was in the market for a new vehicle because the Optima would defintely be on my short list.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    I havent seen many here by me. There is a Black EX here at work but beyond that havent seen them at all really and I've been looking. So many people have asked me about it, just random strangers and guys from work, neighbors etc. I saw a woman right behind me yesterday in my rearview mirror looking down from her SUV at the car and asking the person in the passenger seat "Optima; is that new?".

    The car is really good advertising for them. This is similar to what happened with the Sonata I would imagine.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    We have a 2011 Sorento EX V6 and a couple of weeks ago a guy in a Sorento SX was stopped at a light as we pulled up to the intersection on the road to his left. He turned and when he saw us he honked and waved to us like we were in some exclusive Sorento club. I am seeing more and more of them, but not a lot yet. See an awful lot of Santa Fe's nowadays. I imagine you will get a lot of stares. Probably not from Honda owners. I notice they tend to look away because they seem to be very close minded about other brands. Though the Hondas are really some of the most bland cars and suvs on the road. Nothing in their fleet comes close to the Optima in appearance. At least IMHO.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,713
    Probably not from Honda owners. I notice they tend to look away because they seem to be very close minded about other brands. Though the Hondas are really some of the most bland cars and suvs on the road. Nothing in their fleet comes close to the Optima in appearance. At least IMHO.

    I can honestly tell you that there has never been a Honda made that I would spend money on and attempt to purchase. Can't stand the bland-dom!

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • The red looks great! Wow! Great color choice.
  • mihmih Posts: 10
    What is the difference between LX and EX ?
    Yes, I have seen the homepage that lists all the differences in the list.
    But i want to know a compact answer.

    Could anyone tell me what is the big difference of EX ? (apart from all small misc. things)

    How is EX compared with LX ? or LX+Convenience package ?

    I would like to know the overall impression, compact answers... please
    I appreciate it.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,039
    edited April 2011
    Leather and sunroof.
  • snowallergysnowallergy Posts: 130
    I would as well. The seats are one thing I can't get past. It really is a good looking car. An LX wouldn't be bad since I hate all that extra nonsense. The car is fast and supposed to be good on gas. Love to know real world MPG.
  • snowallergysnowallergy Posts: 130
    Yea, left handed people really shouldn't buy cars.
  • snowallergysnowallergy Posts: 130
    Being able to read lips also helps when you go into dealerships.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    You are right Honda cars are the most bland looking cars on the road. Also, that being said they are among the most reliable, highest resale value on the road. Take $5,000.00 and see what it will buy you in a used Honda.

    I own a Honda and am not closed minded when it comes to other makes. The Kia Optima is a beautiful car. However, the "firmness" of the front seats make it a "deal killer" for me. Sit in one of YOUR favorite cars such as the Suzuki Kazashi and compare. Or, even a Toyota Camry, or a Ford Fusion, or even a Chevy Malibu and compare the comfort of the front seats. The Optima is the worse in class.
  • LOL! I wondered when you would make a comment.
  • trainer1366trainer1366 Posts: 24
    edited April 2011
    A another review...

    All-New Midsize Sedan's Upscale Interior Impresses Editors

    -- Optima lauded for luxurious interior look and feel, along with well-priced packaging options

    -- Kia midsize sedan offers the complete package of design, quality, convenience, comfort, safety features and overall value

    IRVINE, Calif., April 11, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Continually praised for its head-turning exterior design, fun-to-drive performance, and long list of standard safety features, the all-new 2011 Kia Optima has been included as part of "Ward's 10 Best Interiors" list. Kia's midsize sedan was picked for being able to connect with midsize buyers in the U.S. with its upscale and aesthetically pleasing interior packaging, features and overall value. This prestigious accolade follows a slew of awards, including earning an overall five-star crash safety rating from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), being named a Consumer Guide® Automotive "Best Buy," a "Top Safety Pick" by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), an Edmunds' "Editors' Most Wanted" and "Best New Model" by Kiplinger's Personal Finance.

    "This award is a direct reflection of Optima's unbeatable combination of stunning design inside and out, as well as advanced technologies, comfort, convenience and overall value," said Michael Sprague, vice president, marketing & communications, Kia Motors America (KMA). "The Optima introduced stunning new design language to the Kia lineup, which will continue to evolve as Kia maintains its focus on world-class styling while also delivering outstanding performance and fuel efficiency in response to consumers' needs and rising fuel prices."

    Ward's editors evaluated a field of 51 vehicles that are either all-new or featured significantly upgraded interiors, ranging from utility vehicles, minivans and small cars to high-end premium sedans. Scores were tallied for each competing vehicle based on materials, ergonomics, safety, the human-machine interface, comfort, fit and finish, overall value and aesthetics, with a final list of 10 winners chosen. - st-interiors-list-119592424.html

    From Fox News
    I love this review!!!!!! It perfectly summarizes my facination (obsession)with the 2011 Optima.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    Zero issue with the seats. The power ones are so customizable I cant imagine people having trouble with them unless they like a lot of very soft cushion or something. Like the old Buicks that felt like driving a couch :) Hey that has it's merits! Optima SX seats are comfortable and on the firm side. Feels like the Accord seats to me. No problems.

    Gas mileage, well it's been what I'd call decent. Between 20 and 23 mpg on mostly back roads. Engine isnt broken in yet (500 miles so far) and I drive it "spirited" from time to time. I dont use Eco mode, but still not earth shattering MPG. Not bad, but not great. This is the turbo though, might do better with the 2.4.
  • snowallergysnowallergy Posts: 130
    For the recent Optima buyers, there's a TSB from KIA on the vehicle pull. Also there have been recalls on some tires as well. YMMV.
  • snowallergysnowallergy Posts: 130
    You missed me? So nice to be loved. :blush:

    My car pulls to the right, but I thought it was b/c I'm a republican, so I ignored it.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    3 weeks into ownership and still loving the car every time I get in it. Took it on the highway last night in some serious rain and I was struck by how stable I felt compared to my old Jetta. This is mostly a function of the Optima being a bigger car I suppose but it was a nice feeling.

    Also in comparison to our 2004 G35 I felt much more planted on the road and not afraid the rear would slip out from under me on a curve.

    NAV also performed well but the voice recognition is inferior to my Droid phones.

    Overall I'm very pleased.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,713
    was your 2005 G35 RWD?

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • jkobty2jkobty2 Posts: 210
    Went to check it out on the weekend. Gorgeous car, wish I am in the market. Salesperson offered to trade my car in, but it is too early, maybe in a couple of years.
    2 pet peeves. I agree seats are not comfy. and the seat bottoms are short, not enough thigh support. Also I do not like the trunk hinges portruding into the trunk space.
    But if you are comparing to a Honda, Honda seats are just as bad. I have back problems and cannot sit in a Honda for more than one hr drive. Common KIA, better supportive seats and hydraulic trunk hinges and I am in. Hope someone is listening.
  • samm43samm43 Posts: 195
    edited April 2011
    It is interesting to see people's priorities.

    While I agree, a poor seat is a deal breaker no matter how much the rest of the car entices, but I think there isn't anyone who isn't aware of the technique needed in loading a trunk to make room for exposed hinges. It is really but a small compromise for reduced cost, both to manufacture originally and later on down the road. I have never had a hinge or spring break, but I have had the considerable expense of having to replace the gas charged struts used throughout a vehicle. Many of which are inconsistently strong depending on the temperature out. Even if they work in the extreme cold when new, they often don't once a year or two old. So my point is, I'll take the old type hinges and have them spend the money saved on not short changing me in the seats. Life is full of compromises. But if they double-dip on nickel-counting, (the hinge and an iffy seat) then I consider that an insult to our intelligence and they had better wise up. Some people might consider a 1st model year as a freebie and if they get it right the next year, then they are off the hook, but I must admit that I am not that forgiving with a new generation model as significant as the new Optima is assumed to be for Kia. Hinges get the pass, the seats should be flawless for that price category, and shorted thigh seat bottoms seems to come up in conversation more often lately than in years past.

  • smalltownsmalltown Posts: 72
    2 pet peeves. I agree seats are not comfy. and the seat bottoms are short, not enough thigh support.

    Keep in mind there are short people. For me, it's just about right. In most medium and full-size cars, the seat bottom is too long for me. I have to put a cushion behind me. That's why I only buy compacts or sub-compacts because of the seats.
  • smalltownsmalltown Posts: 72
    What would really be nice is for manufacturers to offer different sizes of seats, at least for the driver. My ideal seat bottom is 18" front to back. Anything longer, I would have a hard time bending my lower leg to reach the pedals. Why not have the front couple of inches on seats fold down. Then those of you who are bigger can have the front fold up for proper thigh support. When shorter people drive, they can just fold the front down.
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