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Cadillac DeVille

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  • 04cad04cad Posts: 131
    They must be busy over at caddyinfo, I tried to register yesterday and still haven't receive my conf so I can ask a question over there. :(
  • 04cad04cad Posts: 131
    Okay so today the service air bag light isn't on. It was supposedly a module when we took it in the last time. Anyone have any insight? thanks
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    04............If you go back over to caddyinfo.com
    do a search for the procedure to do a code reading.
    It involves pushing 2 buttons on your heater/ac
    controller in a certain sequence and the codes (if any)
    will be displayed on your DIC................

    This will tell you which code and what to look for.

    If you post over there Scotty or one of the Caddy wrench
    heads can possibly help ya !

    BTW: Your 86 Caddy may have another fuse center in the trunk. May be under the back window like my 03 as well
    as under the hood and under the dash..............
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    You have a 2 year old car. Unless you have a ton of miles on it (and I think a Caddy warranty covers up to 50,000 miles), why aren't you letting a dealer solve this problem under warranty?????
  • 04cad04cad Posts: 131
    I have had it back once for the service air bag message probably two months ago, they said they replaced the module under warranty. I just wondered if this was a chronic problem for the 2005 model year and if so was there an underlying cause? Seems like the air bag system shouldn't need to be serviced this often unless..... they really couldn't identify the problem the first time and either threw a module at it hoping to fix it or the message went away without leaving a code (the service guy told me yesterday that was possible) and they couldn't get it to replicate so they could troubleshoot it properly? I registered at caddyinfo but so far haven't received the conf email so I can't post or do an auto search yet. thanks
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    My 03 DeVille has used 1 gallon of antifreeze in a month.
    But not really sweating it because its still under the new car warranty. I didn't notice any leaks, exaust smoke, or
    interior window fogging. I figured a bad head gasket from
    some of the horror stories I note at other Caddy forums.

    Local Caddy dealer was quite helpful and had it in and out in 1 day. The cause of the coolant/antifreeze loss was a
    waterpump seal (not the pump). This the first and only issue with this car in under 4 years and 45k miles............. :shades:
  • sls002sls002 Posts: 2,788
    The water pump leaking is the most likely cause. If you had let it go long enough, the pump might have been damaged too. My 2002 is still on the original water pump bearings/seal. The coolant is still full since the transmission work was done. I now have a bit under 60,000 miles. I am thinking about getting a new car, but need to talk to dealer about that.

    Someone I know with an older (1999) DeVille had not noticed the water pump failing, and so when the engine got hot, that was the problem. He had it towed in after the engine got hot. After that the coolant level gradually dropped, and coolant was added. Then a several months later it needed more.... The head gasket had failed, probably due to the engine getting hot, but may also have been faulty anyway. The coolant leak had go on long enough so the engine was total loss.
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    I figured I would talk turkey with the salesguy just
    in case............

    They appraised my 03 Deville 45k miles base w/ bose, roof, bun warmers,chromies at a generous $10,000 trade !!!!!

    OUCH!!!!!!!! But I figured the lowball since I note 06
    DTS ex rentals w/25k miles are fetching $24k at another
    Caddy dealer..........

    Heck...I am getting $21,500 trade for my 04 Chevy 2500
    x-cab 4x4 20k miles on the purchase of a new 07 one.
    The truck msrp $33k new..the caddy $47k
    I paid far less with my GM employee deal. But the
    difference in which one held its value better is nothing new to me.
  • sls002sls002 Posts: 2,788
    My local dealer gave me $11,000+ today for my 2002 Seville. They did not have what I wanted in stock, but were able to trade with a remote dealer (~$500 to ship). The shipping cost was subtracted from my trade in, so they may have given me $11,700 for it.
  • bremertongbremertong Posts: 436
    Always enjoy your posts. as you may remember I own a 2004 Deville now with 37,000 miles on it. Base model with no extras except a 12 disk CD stacker in the trunk. A local dealer has a new 2006 DTS and has offered to do a trade giving me $17,000 in trade and $ 21,500 out the door. While tempted, the essentials in both these cars are similar and am not sure spending an additional $ 21,500 just to update two model years for a new 2006. The new car does have a sun roof and in dash 6 disk CD stacker. I asked why the car was still on their lot and a new 2006. Response was that it just never sold. Would enjoy knowing your opinion, many thanks.
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    A 'new' 2006 for $21,500 plus your car valued at $17,000? Is this the deal?

    $48,500 for a car that would be 2 years old when you get it off the lot?

    $48,500 for a 2006 when you can find tons of rental/lease returns with 18,000 miles for $20,000 and even less?

    Why, why, why would you want to do this?
  • 04cad04cad Posts: 131
    I have been trading for a two year old program car for a couple of years now and receiving a fairly good deal (I think). I think you might be better off trading for a low mileage year or two old car than paying the $21,000.00 difference for the almost two year old new one. If you work with the dealer a bit or maybe try another dealer to try. Watch for their sales or another dealer's and take the paper with you. There should be a lot of 2006 program cars coming off lease and maybe even some 2007's coming off lease soon too. Good luck.
  • 04cad04cad Posts: 131
    Hi, I have enjoyed the savings on two year old rental/lease return cars for a couple of years now, but haven't been able to find any low mileage 2006's (if that is what you were saying) this year yet for anything near $20,000. Could you give me a couple of dealer's names that are offering DTS's with low mileage in the low to middle $20's? My usual dealer hasn't had anything this year so far that meets my needs. Thanks in advance.
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    In my neck of the woods Syracuse NY 04 CTS are just under
    $20k, 05 Deville $19,995, 06 DTS (base)$24,xxx @ at Crest
    Caddy. 06 DTS sez loaded out $28k 22k miles @ Stafford
    auto group Auburn NY. 05 DHS $19,995 Wilber-Duck GM dealer
    Oneida NY............

    Thats all the big Caddies in todays paper:
    http://www.syracuse.com
  • bremertongbremertong Posts: 436
    The actual total, the trade at $17,000 and the cash of $21,500 would come out to a total of $38,500. The car is a 2006 but is new and according to the dealership just never sold. I agree with the idea of finding either a lease return or fleet car with low miles in that if certified it
    would carry in addition to the original warranty an added warranty under the certified program. I am on the west coast where prices are for some reason a little higher than for Cadillac on the east coast. There are more used Cadillacs available in the east and at lower prices.
  • bremertongbremertong Posts: 436
    The actual total, the trade at $17,000 and the cash of $21,500 would come out to a total of $38,500. The car is a 2006 but is new and according to the dealership just never sold. I agree with the idea of finding either a lease return or fleet car with low miles in that if certified it
    would carry in addition to the original warranty an added warranty under the certified program. I am on the west coast where prices are for some reason a little higher than for Cadillac on the east coast. There are more used Cadillacs available in the east and at lower prices.
  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    Keystone Chevrolet in Sand Spring, Ok (near Tulsa) a few months ago had several 'base' 2006 DTS (Deville)'s. We drove by because my wife wants another Cadillac. I was scared to death to offer $19,500 for one, because I know I would have bought a car. These cars had 18,000 to 24,000 miles and sure looked like rental vehicles. White, blue, silver colors, base [isn't that a Level I] DTS's.

    Since this wasn't a Caddy dealer, you couldn't have gotten a certified warranty. I would think Caddy dealers out there are going with a certified warranty for one like these for about $22,000.

    And, yes, $17,000 plus 21,500 is $38,500, not $48,500. Sometimes I can't add correctly.
  • sls002sls002 Posts: 2,788
    The DTS has 4 trim levels. The base level was called Luxury I in 2006 I think, but for 2007 the Luxury level I is one level up from base. The top level is the Performance package. The 2007's come in base, Lux I and II, with Performance at the top. The Performance package is really a quasi-sport sedan trim.
  • 04cad04cad Posts: 131
    Those are some decent prices, I wish our local dealers were that reasonable. I like keeping a fairly new, under warranty Deville. Thanks for the reply. It will give us a baseline when we do start talking to our dealer for a trade.
  • bremertongbremertong Posts: 436
    I did a national search for used 2006 DTS on both Auto Trader and Cars.Com, Could not find anything close to the price you refer to in your post. Closest was around $ 29,000
    for cars with around 28,000 miles. It may be that the prices you saw were only being offered at the dealership and not posted on the internet. I would of course be interested in a 2006 Deville at the price range you mentioned. If you are able to find anything like this perhaps you could post name and location of dealership so if any of the forum members are interested they could follow up. Many thanks for the post in that it indicates that there are bargains out there if one shops around.
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