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Cadillac DeVille

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  • pdc4pdc4 Posts: 2
    Just bought a '97 Deville. I want to add a CD player/changer, as it only has a cassette player.
    I really enjoy the volume and select controls on the steering column. Anybody added a CD player that would allow continued use of these controls?
    Any advice on sound system upgrades on this model car would be appreciated.
  • DimaDima Posts: 14
    Hi everyone,

    Looking for Silver/Shale or Oatmeal DTS in New England. Could anybody recommend a Dealer who would talk invoice?

    Thanks!
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    I've got a dealer installed trunk mounted
    10 disc changer in the trunk. It's a Delco
    unit installed by the dealer. It works off
    the indash radio and steering wheel controls
    too. Try a stereo store ..they are a heck of
    a lot cheaper and it still hooks into the
    radio anyway...Good luck.............Geo
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    You should always realize that because the platform on which Town Hall spent about three years required stopping and restarting a discussion after about 500 posts, that number means absolutely nothing. What was transferred here to the active boards were all active topics on the old platform at the time. You'd have to research all the archives to find out how many posts have really been made on a particular topic.

    (Besides, having spent a year in Maintenance and Repair myself, I gotta tell you that numbers of posts really have very little value to determining reliability of any particular make.)

    One more thing - please be careful with your acronymns, implied profanities should not be used here.

    Pat
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  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Of little value to whom ? Simply my observation
    on complaints on certain cars in the m & r thread.
    SO in my opinion some makes seem to have more
    REAL WORLD PROBLEMS...
    ALSO i have not implied anything to anyone
    Or tried not to.
    You must own one of those cars i mentioned...HAHA
    Scribble me or whatever I could care less.....
    Have a nice day.................Geo
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I am simply observing that after reading all of the posts on the Maintenance and Repair Board through December 2000, that simply counting the numbers of posts in any one topic (without further analysis) does not provide any useful data. You are free to disagree with my conclusion. And no, as a matter of fact, I do not have a vehicle in your fight.

    And I also want to point out to you and anyone else interested that because of the history of Town Hall, the numbers of posts you see in a current discussion today do not necessarily represent the numbers of posts on the particular topic - the archives must be researched to obtain that information.

    Pat
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  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Where in New England are you? My father got his '99 STS at Stephens (Stevens?) Cadillac {Stephens World of Wheels} in Bristol, CT. I can get the name of his salesman, from whom my Dad has purchased several cars. Maybe a personal referral will help with the price incentives.

    rob
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    I have read thru most if the 1394 posts on
    honda, and 314 lexus 400 posts. Would you like
    me to tell you how many were complaints or
    compliments.....Just sick of those american
    car bashers..That think the imports are so
    great. Those m &r thread posts are REAL WORLD
    usage not some magazine test jockey stuff.
    Just my .02 Geo
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Check out the accord quality control issues.
    Posts 185 thru 213. Now they are fighting
    among themselves. Instead of a gm guy posting
    lies about their flawless hondas now its a
    couple of anti honda guys. Hondas have no
    problems ask the honda salesman that has
    his head in the sand.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    let's return to the regularly scheduled topic about the Cadillac DeVille.

    Thanks!

    Pat
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  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    I agree with you, but lets not turn this into a US versus foriegn debate. Those debates are so futile as there is no clear winner. If a glorified Honda(i.e. Acura) rocks someone's boat, let them enjoy their ride. Like I've said before, have you ever seen any car dealership(foriegn or domestic) that doesn't have a service department?
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    At least these guys are talking about cars. The folks over on the LS430 topic are talking more about cameras than anything else.
  • Are Cadillac Program Cars with warrantee good deals from dealers? A 2001 devilled program car with 25k will sell for around 32,000 in central Texas.

    How many years and miles ( 15,000/yr) should one of these cars last if properly maintained?
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Lots of miles for a program car..Ask the Cadillac dealer to run a history on the car and let you read the printout.. it will give all warranty repair data and dates/mileage.. 25k miles is not a program car..Sounds like a rental deal..

    $32k is too much for a plain Deville.. My son bought a 01 SLS in March, 7500 miles w/STS wheels, diamond white and sunroof for 36k including 6% sales tax.. The car was an Enterprise rental car and was purchased by the Caddy dealer at auction/sale..The dealer gave my son a story about its first life which was all baloney..You can buy used 01 STS for 36k w/9k miles..

    Buy an extended warranty just before the original warranty expires because the Caddys really don't grow old gracefully.. Buy the warranty through the dealer and dicker the price because it is flexible..

    I am a three Caddy owner, no big dealer, all bought new, not leased..Keep 5 yrs, wife's car and receives excellent care..The northstar system looks great on paper but it has some odd problems which out of warranty are costly..

    The resale sucks so going into the deal; beat up the dealer or the private party..I live in Michigan..the home of the beasts...Good Luck..
  • I just posted a picture of the next DeVille on my car page.

    Not an all new car. But new front and back, and revised interior to match the new CTS.

    http://thehollywoodextra.com
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    Wow, great shot of the '03 Deville. Looks like either chrome, or brushed aluminum sideview mirrors! Suprised but happy to see Cadillac make such a relatively drastic design change to the car only three years into the current model design. They usually have taken designs through a five year cycle.

    Are you sure that this is slated for release in '03, as in, one year from now? (the '02's are on the lot already).

    The front of the CTS looks taller than it does in other photos I've seen.
  • If the DTS is the only series in '03, look forward to seeing the super DTS as another trim with advance high tech. and greater performance.

    Some issues back of Car and Driver, there was talk about future forecast of the Deville of being the super Deville (DTS) with S-class like features with 400 horsepower. I don't know how true it is but something that similar of what Cadillac is planning out should be a threat to the competition. I could see the DTS and another higher performance DTS coming out in a year and a half.

    J "CaddyLac"
  • nick01nick01 Posts: 84
    Please tell me what is 'implied profanities'???
    I spent several years in the far east with my family. I am a 100% American car person. Problem is, where do you find a 100% American car these days? :*)

    Nick
  • dunesdunes Posts: 1
    I have a 2000 Deville at certain speeds and wind conditions has a howling windshield. This is a very rare occurance with all conditions being right. Very difficult for Cadillac service to troubleshoot. Anybody experiencing similar problems or have answers to the problem? Thanks in Advance
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Feel free to email me if you'd like - pat@edmunds.com.

    Pat
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  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    100% American car is a Cadillac..It may have some offshore parts but it's a USAer..Trust me, I sell the OEM..

    Foreign car companies producing cars in our country and Canada are foreign owned--follow so far--they buy approx 85% of their parts from domestic car suppliers/manufacturers which are based in the US or Canada but are also foreign owned..The traditional Big 3 suppliers do very little business with the Pacific Rim names in the USA or Canada. The offshore guys have their own "good old boy network" which operates very well within our country..

    They operate in the small towns mainly in the Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee..

    I could go on; but my explanation is not appreciated by Edmunds..however I have said nothing out of line or questionable..

    I am 67 yrs old; so I can recognize where the auto names started..I think the media and the advertising tend to distort the real picture..I see where Toyota uses the language in their full page Auto ads, stating that they purchase domestically $8 billion worth of parts annually..It's true; Asian owned American suppliers..

    The regular Big 3 supplier is in deep trouble and in ten years will be gone..You figure out the rest of the story!!!

    Sorry, Pat, but I had to explain a very important side of our hertiage and where it is headed..
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    My recently purchased Oldsmobile Intrigue had a sticker which said it was 96% US or Canadian in content. Thats pretty American by today's standards.
  • nick01nick01 Posts: 84
    Yes I know about the American, japanese, and the german car market. I lived it every day for 35 years with General Motors. They were trying to unload all their 'inhouse' suppliers. The big problem was the 'just in time' inventory they were trying to maintain and still produce car and car parts like they did 20-30 years ago. They have to control the suppliers completely to make the 'just -in-time' work.
    My first cadillac was a 1949 back in 1953. The last new cadillac was a 1990 deville. I liked that '90 better than any car I've ever owned. Except the front end bounce like the lasebre buick. But I liked the Buick 2nd best. I've had a lot of cars to compare the cadillac to. I've bought a new car or truck every year for the last 25 yrs. Some years a new car and a new truck.
    However, the cadillac is now over 40 grand even with my GM discount. In my opinion,no car is worth 40,000 plus. But who knows, maybe some day......
    Nick
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Sounds like you live in the Motor City area..Cadillacs only cost 40k+ because some people are willing to pay the price..Leasing luxury has provided a way to move mass volumes of cars..Overbuilding to meet financial goals dilutes the resale value; so that's where the value lies..

    There are tons of used values with low miles and that great GM warranty which really works with the Cadillac guys..I have bought my last new one for it is foolish to take a 15k hit the first yr..

    The 01 DTSs will be plugging up the used car market in 18/24 months so it will make more fun for me in the senior years..

    Chasing a 99 Concurs now with under 12k miles..Own a 96 Deville with 57k and the wife will not part with it and my Intrigue is too much fun; so may buy and sell it my daughter in Fla..or just have three beauties in the garage.
  • cadburycadbury Posts: 6
    Appears to be $1,180 higher, BUT the leather seats are now standard equip., so that eliminates a $785.00 option, which makes the 02 only $400 more than the 01. This is on the base Deville.

    It's about time that leather is now standard, since the only way you could get fabric seats in the past was to special order it.

    I would like to see the telescoping steering wheel as part of the comfort & convenience pkg, and make that standard equipment also. After all, this IS a luxury car, isn't it?

    Maybe this is the plan for the 03 DTS. Anyone agree?
  • nick01nick01 Posts: 84
    for 8 days. This will at least get us back to the top of the list :*)
    Nick
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Any owners of 99s that would care to comment on any issue presenting a quirky problem..As a current owner of a 96 Deville which has performed well and at 57k miles is in pristine condition the chance to pick up another Caddy has arrived..

    My 96 is the wifes car; diamond white, chromes and sunroof..Never seen snow and always garaged..

    The performance level and handling of the Concurs would be an improvement over the std Deville; not a real fan of a console n the Caddy..The only intriguing thing about the car is the 11k miles and it is dent/ding free..

    Any real complaints--fire away..I guess I would have to drive the car for my wife is happy with hers..Spin the 99 Intrigue..
  • My mothers 98 Devill Concourse got to 30k miles problem free and now after a 3,000 mile trip from the Bay Area to Pheonix to vegas and back, the oil level low warning came on. We took it to a gas station and found that it was 2 1/2 quarts low. We put in some 10w 30 and thought everything was ok. Now today, when starting the car, the engine started very rough, so she turned off the car and tryed restarting, now the car wont start at all, but something is really screwed up. When she hit the nob to turn on the lights(thinking the battery may be dying)the lights went on, but the trunk opened and the gas cap did as well(all with the light button). So what could be the problem, if its electrical, why wont the engine start? Secondly, do you guys think its just coincidence that this all happened 3,000 miles after our $800 dollar 30,000 mile servicing? As I speak, Cadillac roadside assistance is towing it in. Thank god the car is still under warranty. Would appreciate your input.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    I don't think 2 1/2 qts. low on oil would
    make the car not start. You did fill it with
    oil right ?? . My woman never has the oil
    checked. About 2 qts low the low oil light
    comes on anyway. Remember the northstar holds
    8 qts. of oil. Just don't tell the dealer the
    oil was low. They might say something like
    owner neglect....WARRANTY VOID !!!!!!!
    Could be something simple like a fuel pump, or
    crank sensor etc...GOOD LUCK.............Geo
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    I really don't know what one would do to spend $800 on the 30000 miles service..Change oil, rotate tires, and new air filter would be a ton of work on a 30k car..It's called dealer rip.rip.rip..There isn't a darn thing to do to a Cadillac, but gas and oil..

    Sounds like fuel pump or crank sensor..Fuel pump would be more apt to start trouble with cold engine..sonjaab has a good handle on it...

    Stop reading the maintenance BS in the back of the owners manual..
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