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Cadillac DeVille



  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    I get such a kick out of these posts from people who have problems with their Cadillacs and say "it's foriegn cars for me." Thats the dumbest statement I've heard. Foriegn cars have problems too. Ever see a Lexus dealership that doesn't have a service department? And most foriegn luxury cars are alot more expensive than Cadillacs to get V8 power, and equivalent room and features. And Cadillac is NOT going the way of Oldsmobile. Have you seen or read anything about the upcoming CTS? Very impressive. If Lexus can sell a warmed over Camry(ES300), Infinti a fancy Maxima(I30), and Acura and upgraded Accord(TL 3.2) then Cadillac should have no problem selling a completely new from the ground up RWD entry level luxury sedan. Sorry if I sound a bit crass, but I get tired of blanket statements like "Back to foriegn cars for me" when someone has a problem with a US made car. I happen to like Cadillacs alot and it will be a cold day in you know where before I'll ever buy a Lexus or an Acura. The only foriegn luxury cars I would consider would be a Jaguar or a high end MB.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,577
    for me" people, you refer to. Understand, as an American, I WANT the American car to succeed. What I have seen is a lack of reliability in the Cadillac's engineering and a disregard for the customer by GM in their support. I thought they (Amer. cars) were improving, and in my experience, they are not. Another poster on the board noted that the GM corporate support had total disregard and lack of care for the customer after the purchase and I have found it to be the case with my Pontiac also. Do you expect me to continue to be loyal when I've had better luck with my foreign cars? By the way, foreign cars too are not perfect; if you want trouble, buy a Jaguar (although better than they used to be). BTW....not trying to rile you, just have a spirited debate :<( .
  • josephnjosephn Posts: 1
    For those of you complaining about unreliable new Cadillacs, do you live in states with lemon laws? Any new car that is at the dealer for a week 6 different times the first year is hitting lemon status.

    As for the guy who implied shame on anyone who'd buy a foreign Lexus, but kudos if the foreign car is a Jaguar, well, he has never owned a Jaguar. My aunt has an XK8, and the thing is most unreliable tub in history.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,116 regard to service after the sale some 7 years after I purchased my 1994 Deville. My girlfriend has a new Chevrolet Impala and they are doing their darndest to ensure she is happy with her car. Maybe it varies by dealer. As far as I can see, I have no reason whatsoever to consider a foreign make. I do like the Lexus LS400 and LS430 and the Mercedes S-Class, but Cadillac was, is, and will be my select choice.
  • larry0605larry0605 Posts: 3
    I have an early 2000 DTS that used to get about 19.0 MPG for my daily driving (5 miles interstate- 2 miles suburban streets) Recently my MPG dropped to about 16.1 overall and I am only getting about 20.1 MPG at a constant 65 MPH on the freeway. I watch the INST mileage on the freeway and, on any grade at all, it drops the mileage down in the 12-15 MPG range. I complained to dealer service guy and he told me I should be using 89 octane instead of 87 and that the northstar 'carbons up' because of Lotus type variable valve timingused on the Northstar. He 'decarbonized' it but there has been no improvement . I also am getting some rough idling, although it is tough to tell how rough it is while inside the car due to the sound insulation. How out of the norm is my mileage and does anyone have a clue as to what is wrong with this car?
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    I read the other day where Raytheon is planning to step up their automotive night vision technology business and they are courting other car manufacturers. Interested parties include Honda and I believe Mercedes or BMW. Interestingly, Lexus (Toyota) was not listed.

    Apparently, the exclusive arrangement with Cadillac is over, and the demand for this technology has exceeded their (Raytheon's) initial expectations. They foresee ramping up production to as much as 1 million units per year.

    It seems that night vision may well become a common feature on cars in the near future. Chalk one up for Cadillac for having been on the forefront of this particular technology in the automotive world!
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    dwaynej:::::cadillac struts are a little on the pricey side. Your struts should not be wore out at 50k unless it has been abused.

    Maybe your load leveling system is not functioning and the rear end is not being raised??? I have owned several Caddies and the the 91 Touring Sedan did suffer a strut problem due to the a sensor malfunction; however the car was sold @ 59k miles after the factory installed a new 4.9 engine..

    The current Deville is a 96 Northstar, wife's car, which has made 6 round trips to Fla from Detroit loaded to the gunnels with luggage/cargo.. The car has 56k miles and the struts are okay and the electronic load leveling functions to keep the body in a level condition when loaded..

    Take your car to a dealer and ask him to check it out..Struts should last under normal useage past the 100k mark.
  • Hello 1415. Another anonymous name change.


    J "CaddyLac"
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Life is funny; and when are you going to pop for the Eldo???? Don't lurk and pay the part..

    I always considered myself lucky because I didn't have to depend on a Cadillac for transportation needs.. Always bought my wife one for she has the time in case the car didn't feel the need to run that day..

    Eldos are old tech and GM is finally going to kill it.. They haven't put any money in that car for a few years..I know of a mint 99 Eldo, custom top, moon, Vogue wheels and tires, 36k mi. and asking 21.9.. I know the original owner.. He has a 01 Eldo now..

    My 96 Deville is an exceptional car and I am keeping it because the thing is not replaceable. It will go end of model 02, though..

    The 99 3.5 Intrigue is a blast and at 45k miles it loves the 75+ mph cruise.. The engine is smoother than the Northstar and if it blows up; then Major Guard writes the check..It's the business car, golf wagon, and funmobile..

    I quess you might call my son a real Caddie fan; he just bought a used Allante 93 Northstar with 42k miles; 2nd owner,and I am trying to trace through the system to see if the engine has been replaced by Cadillac. Excellent condition, low 20s, summer wagon only, recently bought a 01 SLS to replace his 94 STS w/137k miles..The third car is a T&C Chrysler van.

    Who is 1415????
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    1415 is someone who was not nearly as well behaved as you will be, right 9899olds?
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,577
    check the cam shafts....had the problem with the rough idle with my 2000 DTS
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Behaving better every day...may chuck the Intrigue for a 02 Z-28..decision near..lack of dealer support..300hp+ V-8s are a dying sport..hybrid cars don't create any fun..this AARPer is going out in style.

    The younger generation has to put up with the whachos; I don't!!!!It's off to the races..
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    Whats up? :) Sounds like you know your Caddies and Intrigues. I'm getting ready to buy a new(or used) car very soon and my choices are a 97 or 98 ETC, STS(probably have to stick with a 97 on that one), Deville Concours, Oldsmobile Aurora or a new Oldsmobile Intrigue. I've looked at Buick Regals, but weren't as impressed with them. I keep going back to the Cadillacs because I've always wanted a luxury car and I'd love to have a car with a V8 before gasoline prices go through the roof. Lincolns don't really impress me and Chrysler has no V8 cars. And the only imports I really like are Jags and long term maintenance on those worry me.
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Look in the yellow pages and see how many Jaguar, Cadillac, and Oldsmobile dealers are in your service area where you will seek help occasionally. Oldsmobile is disappearing and the last time I looked; Jaguar dealers were somewhat scarce..

    The ETC is old in many respects, and the STS is probably the best thing the USA has to offer. Excellent suspension setup and the Northstar/trans combo is a real runner.. Used, low mileage is the way to go for the new one is on the pricey side; and depreciates like a lead sinker in water.. The SLS is nothing and the Deville is okay; but soft suspension..I buy the Devilles because of the southern commute-Detroit to Fla-gobs of junk to haul back/forth..

    The Intrigue is a high speed runner all day long and probably is the best handling mid-sized Big 3 domestic sedan produced by Detroit in a long time.. I have had two; but the 99 is the last one due to the Olds demise..The 3.5 is a blast..

    Conclusion: Cadillac service isn't the greatest; but volume of dealers allows a choice to be made..
    No choice with Olds; they are gone, and Jag ain't for me, no choice..

    Maybe this will help narrow the field for you.
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    Thanks for the info. BTW, how is that SLP exhaust doing on the Intrigue? :)
  • harchieharchie Posts: 1
    I have just purchased a 98 Deville. Geat Price and condition. Immaculate. Any info or advice on what to expect. This is my first high end vehicle.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,116
    A bona fide collectible - awesome powerplant, two-seater convertible with Pininfarina body. A real keeper. I'd definitely would preserve such a vehicle as well as I possibly could.
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    We have met???? Recall Tenn????

    The SLP system has upped the abuse factor, increased oil consumption, decreased gas mileage, added more noise to a noisy car; but it was worth the money.. It did add some zest to the higher end..

    Every Intrigue owner should get one.. I doubt if it will be a good selling point!!

    lemko:::::It might be a collectable someday but it sure wasn't a sports car by any stretch of the imagination.. I was somewhat amazed that my son was buying this car because he has never shown any real auto interest other than certain cars were necessary in the family lifestyle. His mechanical aptitude is not too swift; in fact he nevers checks the oil level in his cars..
  • harvey17harvey17 Posts: 4
    how reliable is this engine, and has anyone outthere had any major problems,or when startup do anyone have a whine in the tranny for the first ten miles orso.
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