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  • Hey all- got my DTS back on line.The Dealer found that there was a module in the drivers door that controlled seat and memory settings. Was defective and somehow tied into the feature programing, causing it to crash each time it was reset. System now works great again. Service guy told me the amount of electronics and systems all tied together is really time consumeing to fix. While my car was in the shop the dealer gave me a service car to use, a 2003 Deville. I drove this for two days, highway and city. Now I am not knocking anyone out there with a Deville, but my 2000 DTS seems to be twice the car all the way around. Fuel mileage seemed no different than my DTS,I thought it may be better with the smaller engine. The biggest difference I found was in ride and handling, DTS is a 10 and Deville a 5. Was great to get back behind wheel of my own car afterwards. For the first time in many years its a pleasure to get behind the wheel in a car and enjoy driving it again. Cheers all.
  • I recently purchased a 2000 DeVille that is in great shape. The odometer reads 65,000 and the Dash top or topper as Cad calls it is coming apart. The only thing that I noticed when I bought it was a small piece on the side that was turned up toward the windshield. I spent some time cleaning the car this week-end and found the dash problem to be larger than I expected. I removed the dash topper and found that the bulk of the top was lose from the base plastic. The site of this caused me near heart failure. I decided to call Cadillac and get some input. The customer service guy was of no help. He said to take the car to a dealer. The dealer that I have in town said sorry but the car is out of warrantee. The part is almost $500 so I would like to have some ideas as to how I might get Cadillac to step up to the plate. Seems like a car of this price and age should not have this problem warrentee or not. Any ideas would be appreciated.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Good to see that prob. fixed !

    PUG: BUMMER.....Do you live out West?
    Do you think its from sun warp or defect?

    Call the Caddy 800 # and complain nicely !
    Maybe they will step up to the plate and do
    a "goodwill adjustment". Its worth a shot!
    Good luck and keep us posted............geo
  • I live in the midwest in the winter and the mountains in the summer. I do not know where the car has been. Sun damage or Defect? I would think that the manufacturing process would take into consideration that most cars are designed to be driven and parked, some times in the sun. It appears to be a poor product that was prone to sun damage. I was really surprised to see how the cap was made once I removed it from the car.

    I plan to use the Cadillac web site to get info on the car history. The web site has tons of useful information. I will keep the board up to date. Goodwill from Cadillac would be great. Any ideas as to how one should approach this matter would be helpful. If anyone has a really helpful person at Cadillac that they might suggest one might contact I would be grateful . I would also like to hear from anyone that had or has this same problem.
  • pugger1pugger1 Posts: 42
    I talked to Cadillac several times concerning my de-laminating Dash, over the last several days and the results were fruitless. Goodwill from Cadillac and my local dealer does not exist. I am really disappointed in the GM line as I recently sold a one year old GMC pickup that I was really unhappy with because of cheap interior parts and materials and lack of support from GM, now I find that the cheap materials are extended into the best of the line and GM has no concern. The customer service guy I spoke to gave me the same flat bull as the dealer gave me. Thanks GM for the wake up call. My next vehicle will be out of the GM family and perhaps out of the country.
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Sorry to hear that........
    Suprises me tho...Try calling them back..ask them to speak with the supervisor. Did you buy it from a dealer? If so shouldn't you have a 30-60 day used car warranty from the dealer ?

    Well if thats the only problem you have had.......
    Keep bugging them !............geo
  • i was wondering how i can make my 00 dts run even better,i read some earlier posts on k+n and different exhausts,what is the best way to go? thanks
  • abc246abc246 Posts: 305
    I have a 97 DeVille that cranks excessively when the engine is cold, even more so when it is damp it seems. Sometime I can hear backfire during the cranking. The engine seems to start as if it was flooded during “the old days”.

    I replaced the wires and plugs and with no improvement. I was suspecting the coils, but don’t think that all of them would go bad. Once the car is started it runs excellent with 0 to 60 times of 6.4 seconds! If the car is warm it seems to start normally. Anyone have any ideas what the problem could be?

    By the way, I have a 91 DeVille that is doing the same thing!
  • badgmbadgm Posts: 5
    Sounds like a cracked/clogged fuel injector nozzle (pintle) or gasket. Check one of the other Caddy sites.
    They have a simple check to find out if the injectors have a leak down or bad seal.

    If your handy its easy to do................geo
  • captkevcaptkev Posts: 14
    Hey Guys,
             Anyone have advice to pass on re new tires. My 2000DTS has Goodyear Eagles on now, that I run at 32psi cold with good ride and fair handling. Have to replace soon, and was wondering about Michelins. Have no complaints about the Eagle LS, but one never knows if there is something better out there.
    This site seems pretty slow lately,with not much being posted. Anyone else notice, or is this a common thing every now and then ? Anyhow, cheers to all.
                   capt
  • hydra2hydra2 Posts: 114
    Check Tire Rack ratings. Determine whether you want ultra high performance tires, good wet and or snow handling or just decent tires at low prices.

    I have the Michilin MXV4 Plus on my 02. They are ok, but don't have the greatest wet or snow traction. They wear well, however as Michilins often do. They rate higher than the Good Year Eagle LS in everything except snow traction where they are tied with a mediocre score.

    I would recommend the Michilin Pilot Sport A/S with a WR speed ratings. Its a bit pricey, but worth it for its superior rating in dry, wet, snow, noise, comfort and wear. Good wear is a bit unusual in an ultra high performance A/s tire.

    The Dunlop SP Sport A2 (speed rating HR)is almost as good for significantly less money. It is considered a high performance a/s tire. Its biggest drawback is its wear rating (less than the pilot and the MXV4 Plus, but better than the Good Year Eagle LS.) Its an all around better tire than all but the pilot, but cheaper than all of them.
  • captkevcaptkev Posts: 14
    Thanks for the info on the tires Hydra. Have not heard of the Michilin Pilot Sport before, but will check it out for price. Made a printout to take around with me when getting prices. (This is my first car with 17" tires) Every where you go, tire dealers all have special deals running for most every size except 17". Going to have to do some price checking around the circuit. Thanks
  • hydra2hydra2 Posts: 114
    Don't mention it, glad to help.

    Let us know what tire you choose. Stuff like why you chose it and how it compares to your previous experience (the Goodyear LS)and your specific and overall judgment of the tire is what keeps these boards going.

    Besides, the DeVille board has been rather inactive and could use a few posts of interest.

    Btw, welcome to the real world of Quality tires. They tend to cost a bit more than the run of the mill off brands that might wear or perform well but usually not both and sometimes neither. Its easy to pay a lot and still not get the best tire for the money (depending on your needs) such as with Goodyear. If you think the 17" size is pricey, check out what people are paying for the 18"-24" editions.
  • hydra2hydra2 Posts: 114
    Xm radio in wife's 2004 Honda Accord has me thinking seriously about getting it in my '02 dts. I now regret not springing for it as a factory installed option.

    Does anyone know if the integrated unit offered by the factory with the bose radio (cass and cd)can be retrofitted and at what cost?

    Has anyone had this done? Are the fm modulated units that work off cass adapters like the delphi skyfi or roady worth the time effort and money?

    Any comments will be appreciated.
  • abc246abc246 Posts: 305
    Problem turned out to be the Fuel Pressure Regulator. Thanks "badgm" for pointing in the right direction. I replaced it myself in about 10 minutes! The part cost me $49 aftermarket.
  • I have a 2000 DeVille and never had more recalls on it than any other car -- in the past 2 months alone, they replaced 4 windshields because of leaks - still couldn't find it - no bulletins on it - back in again twice for a week & a half - they THINK they got it by caulking everything they can think of - waiting for another rain.
    Drove around in a little ol' Chevy each time - altogether they had my my car for about 3 1/2 weeks out of 3 months
    never again - I had 12 Caddys - no more a Lincoln is next - see how many recalls that will have.
  • I had a 2000 Deville & had no windshield leak problems. Have had none on my '02 DHS either. Haven't seen any mention about a chronic windshield leak in any of the bulletin boards either. Maybe the guy doing the windshield install at/for your dealer is inept... BTW Lincoln is a Ford product... if you think you've got recall problems go check out any Ford owners forum!
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,674
    the ads, new and used, and have realized that a DTS vs Plain Deville has quite a price differential...new, DTS almost $10K more, used, around $5K more...just what does a DTS have besides bucket seats and floor shifter (I really like floor shifters over column shifters, but I can't believe Caddy gets $10K extra for a new one) over a regular Deville???...or, put another way, just how "stripped" is a base Deville compared to a DTS???...the used car ads have a ratio of about 10:1 Devilles for sale over DTS, so most people have a base DeVille, but, still, what gives???...thanks
  • hydra2hydra2 Posts: 114
    The regular DeVille is referred to as the base trim line the DHS and DTS are the mid and high trim lines. Both have extra gadgets standard and high lux options like night vision and navi and maybe xm radio that are unavailable on the base. The DHS has a few more lux gadgets like window shades, rear seat lighted visor vanity mirrors. It shares its engine and column mounted shifter with the base. The DTS has the floor shifter, a more powerful engine, bucket seats,a nice console, a firmer suspension, different leather, a better stereo and analogue gauges (the base has ugly digital gauges). The DTS is also likely to be equipped with options unlikely to be found on the base like parking assist, memory seats, steering wheel and mirrors, sun roof and chrome wheels. DTS also comes standard with stabiltrak or its a typical option, not sure but I don't think its available on the base.

    So its the old story about supply and demand. New or used DeVille shoppers discover that the DTS starts out with a higher price (due to more standard eqpt.) and with desirable options the price goes even higher (like bmw or mb). Even after steep discounts, dealers can still easily charge 5k-10k more for the DTS due to its higher content, demand and scarcity. Base DeVilles are everywhere, if you want the DTS, you have to dig a little deeper.
  • Get 1 of the the uplevel cars. The digital instr. cluster is an abomination. The base DeVille's radio is not as good as the Bose in the uplevels. Most base Devilles were rental/lease cars & have very little in the way of extras. The base Deville shouldn't even be sold becausae of its meager equipment level. They all look the same, but wouldnt you want memory seats/mirrors, stabillitrack, a great informative cluster & switches where all the blank switchplate covers on the base deville are. All they do is remind you of what was left off the car.
  • Cadillac De Ville 2003 with 4000 mi. Trunk leaked,back to dealer 4 times for repair. Leak stopped, now care smells like dirty sock that has been in locker room 6 mos. strong smell of mold and mildew, wife says it makes her nauseous.
    General Motors will take no further action!
  • just purchased 96 deville with 30,000 miles...noticed a receipt that the previous owner had showing all 4 brakes and rotors redone for $300. dollars...seems odd to me with 30k on the odometer....has anyone else seen a premature wearing of brakes like this???????
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,593
    I wonder if you could consult with your local health dept. and/or have fungal cultures taken on your car to see if there is a health hazard besides the putrid odor. It would get GM's attention and could be important to know.
  • Hi dasher323,

    Used to own a 91 Fleetwood sedan, and the trunk pull down broked, the Cadillac. garage wanted 400,00$ to replace it. So a friend said to me, try a scrap yard. I went, and got one for 45,00$. I replaced-it myself no problems. Regards martin 41
  • Hi All,
            Been away on the road for awhile, so thought I would add a little to our forum. As most know I have a 2000 DTS which has as of now 36,000 mi on it. I am really happy with the ride, handling on twisting back roads is wonderful, the Stabiltrac system works well. I enjoy the style and look, interior and sound systems. Couldn't ask for more to suit my needs, and oh yes, gas mileage is really good for this size vehicle. Puts my friends 2003 MB to shame on highway runs. I average 26/27mpg (highway only), running in Goodyear Eagles LS 17" @ 33psi. After all of this I only have one fly in the ointment so to speak, ELECTRONICS! Just as I think they (dealer)have one problem cleared up and everything is running well, bingo, some other glitch turns up. From my previous e-mails I have reported the "Feature Programming" not holding memory or settings, then drivers memory not holding settings next. All these problems were fixed up at no charge to me and a very obliging dealer. Couldn't have been treated better. The only downside of all this service was dropping the car off and being without it for a day or in some cases 2 or 3. Always had a car supplied until my own was done,BUT, this really takes up a lot of time and effort, and you don't know when the car is dropped off when the heck it will be ready. Any way my latest little glitch is as follows; I would be driving along and the TC warning light would come on, meaning that you had no traction control or anti skid brakes working. The entire systems are all tied together so I am told. OK, I would go to the dealer and before I would get there the darn light would go out, and I also found out that the computer does not keep a record in memory of any TC related problems. The service rep told me the only way we would get to the bottom of this problem was to bring in the car when the TC light was on. Finally weeks later I was close to the dealer, light was on and I drove right into the service bay. They linked up a reader with the engine still running, the readout diagnosed a faulty intermittent stoplight switch. Made a appointment, left the car again, they replaced the switch, which did not fix the problem. Finally one smart service rep checked out the rear trunktop stoplight, and found it full of water? No one knows how the heck it entered, but apparently the sloshing water would intermittently short out the led lights array, and consequently the whole system it was tied into. They replaced the trunktop stoplight with a new unit which corrected the system. This was such a weird problem, thought I would share it out there. Meantime I motor very happily along in my DTS,(color Bronze mist),hoping all stays well.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,593
    My previous posts indicated I had a very similar experience with my (former) 2000 DTS. When the car was running without incident(s), the car was sweet (in Crimson red). The problem was that the car had a different glitch and was brought in for service every six weeks on average, without exception. The "coup de cras" was the last time I had it in for service, I found the car three days later in a stranger's driveway on the other side of town, when it was supposed to be at the dealer's. All factors being considered, enough was enough.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,263
    How did you handle the "stranger's driveway" experience with the dealer??? Just wondering...
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,593
    Interestingly, when the car was noted by me in a stranger's driveway when it was supposed to be at the dealer service dept., I called my service manager and reported it, that very Sunday. He had given me his card with his cellular phone no. He first had the "that's impossible, it couldn't be" attitude and insisted I made a mistake. When I told him I KNEW it was my car, because I also checked the license no., he investigated it and was half-way apologetic and irritated. He gave me the lame excuse that the serviceman working on the car (yeh right on a Sunday) had just run home "to get a software program for it". Oh puhhleeez, like I really believed that.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,263
    "serviceman working on the car (yeh right on a Sunday) had just run home "

    The serviceman didn't have his _own_ car to
    run home? I think I would have made even more of
    stink over that one -- misuse of my automobile.
    If he were to have been in an accident involving serious damage or bodily injury, whom would they sue?
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,593
    Believe me I made more of a "stink" than the current post suggests and they lost a customer (permanently) at this particular dealer. I agree with you. The whole incident was outrageous and inexcusable.
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